While I heard from somewhere that there will be no standard cars in GT5 I hope we see the return of the UCD with rare cars hidden all over the place. It makes the rare cars that much more valuable as opposed to going to the dealership and buying it. What do you think?
Return of the UCD
- Thread starter Walter35
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- bpgarcia
Agree. UCD should return but filled with premium cars you dont see in the new car dealer.
Subaru 360 interior view. Make it happen PD!
Subaru 360 interior view. Make it happen PD!
Dragonwhisky
Premium
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- the land of green, hills, rocks & whiskey
- Dragonwhisky
Cars with mileage on them?
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- bpgarcia
Exactly. For me, premium just means cars with internal and underbody views.
Some standard cars do have the internal view though, like the Toyota 7, Caterham and Tank Car.
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- Nii916
Yes. I like wondering what will show up. It'll be even better if they're all "premium."
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- qgroundhog
Agreed new dealer should be for new cars like 2010 models and newer. Everything else should be used.
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- The Netherlands
, Yep, ever played a previous GT-title? You know the ones which didn't have different quality car models?
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- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
Just let me buy the car once I have the money. I don't care for this "rare car" gimmick. Save the idea for the Pokemon games.
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- diegorborges82
The UCD is essential, just make it the right way... old cars go in the UCD, new cars in the NCD. That's it.
The way it was in GT4 was already cool tbh. If you remove the UCD, you remove a very important part of Gran Turismo. Cars in GT are meant to be get in this way... not a silly, soul-less menu of choices, like a NFS game.
The way it was in GT4 was already cool tbh. If you remove the UCD, you remove a very important part of Gran Turismo. Cars in GT are meant to be get in this way... not a silly, soul-less menu of choices, like a NFS game.
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- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
GT3 did not have a UCD at all but for me it was still the most fun game in the series. I don't think it's fair that if I want a certain type of car, I have to wait for it to show up.
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- Nigel Fox
While I have a lot of sympathy for MuoNiuLa's position, I still like the idea of rare cars, and there's no other way to have rare cars that I can think of. Maybe a certain selection like old classics could show up rarely in the UCD. Or have the Dnline Dealership return which PD can spice up with rare goodies every ten days or so. But make it much larger in GT6.
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- GTP_Royalton
So how about every car is available at any instant in new condition with 0 miles. But used cars are randomly chosen new cars available at a discount (30-50% cheaper), but with miles and in need of chassis refresh, engine rebuild etc
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- dawko-san
Dude UCD never had anything to do with the actuall quality of cars! It's just a stupidity from PDs heads to tell us that used cars in GT5 were actually already used - in GT4. Damn. So, GT6 being PS3 game I wish UCD have old cars actually eg. earlier than 2010 or so. And cars made later than 2010 should be in NCD. No matter what quality they are.
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- Neomone
Prize cars. If you must have rare cars, have them as prize cars.
And rare/prize cars should be visual only. Rare liveries or body mods and the like. You can't lock someone out of buying a Huayra just because they haven't completed the 47 hour Farts Like The Wind endurance race yet.
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- InFiNiTe_MeDuLa
Yeah...
Did you actually read the OP, instead of focussing on my use of the word Premium ? All I did was suggest that GT5s Premium could be useful in a GT6 Used Car Dealer. Its an idea which is closer to actually following the OP then your unsought after "GT5 Mistakes by PD" history lesson. Read my post again, and tell me where I was definitively sure,100 percent that GT6 was an upcoming PS3 title. I believe I said Small Possibility.
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- SpacedustDaddy
What if UCD coincided with the OCD. say I use a new car just before its break-in mileage( for example 110km). It has chrome paint, has BBS, FRONT SPOILER, REAR WING, semi-race exhaust and I sell it to the UCD. Maybe a new member wants to buy it with the custom parts I left on it. Once bought, they get the paint chip and parts. If I choose, I could remove the parts and paint chip to my ITEMS LIST for the future and sell the car to the OCD/UCD with current mileage and hp. Something like that. Any thoughts?
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- IceManPJN
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squaregatescrub
You missed the actual difference between the two. The rear difference is between last-gen polygon models with last-gen textures and current-gen modeling. Standards didn't simply lack cockpit.views, but further lacked like 90%+ of their polygons and most texture detail. "What do you mean by that?" They're built from far, far, far, far, far, far fewer polygons and painted with more basic textures that sometimes look right at home on PSX.
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Err, I doubt he missed all that. He was just pointing out, in a simplified manner, that there isn't a functional difference between the two, outside of cockpit view (and to a lesser extent their ability to flip).
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- GTP_SnowCrash
While I liked the process of getting all cars in GT5 (and the main portion of that through the UCD), I abhor the fact that these used cars are often not available in prime condition, or only through restoration tickets, of which there is only a very limited amount. If you want to use these cars in online spec-races, you have to have equal cars, and just because you got the one with 90,000 miles on it, you have no chance (or you blow a restoration ticket on it).
But that's more a problem of car deterioration (which in my opinion they should get rid of) than of the UCD-system.
I think the idea of using UCD/OCD for standard models and NCD for premiums generally works. If they keep standards around for GT6 they could re-use that concept, but if only premiums remain, then it could make sense to change the UCD-definition to "premiums that have mileage and therefore come at a discount", but that also only works if either a) you can't get them through the NCD, or b) credits are not as easy to earn as now in GT5. Otherwise everyone will use the NCD.
But that's more a problem of car deterioration (which in my opinion they should get rid of) than of the UCD-system.
I think the idea of using UCD/OCD for standard models and NCD for premiums generally works. If they keep standards around for GT6 they could re-use that concept, but if only premiums remain, then it could make sense to change the UCD-definition to "premiums that have mileage and therefore come at a discount", but that also only works if either a) you can't get them through the NCD, or b) credits are not as easy to earn as now in GT5. Otherwise everyone will use the NCD.
I'm thinking of getting an S2000, so I just did a search on cars.com for used ones. I saw a really cheap one, then realized it was a salvage car but the engine was supposedly in good shape.
Now, in real life, I'm steering clear of it, but in the game, that could be interesting to me. In other words, not only would used cars have more miles and wear, they can also sometimes be damaged. In the game, I could luck up and find a cheap Ferrari, but it's dinged up so I have to gradually repair it.
Obviously this fits better for whatever kind of A-spec/Career mode they come up with. Not online, arcade, blah blah.
Now, in real life, I'm steering clear of it, but in the game, that could be interesting to me. In other words, not only would used cars have more miles and wear, they can also sometimes be damaged. In the game, I could luck up and find a cheap Ferrari, but it's dinged up so I have to gradually repair it.
Obviously this fits better for whatever kind of A-spec/Career mode they come up with. Not online, arcade, blah blah.
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- HBR-Roadhog
- HBR Roadhog
I liked the UCD in GT4 quite a lot. In GT5 it was ok but there was 1 major problem and that is that there were a couple of races that could not be ran until you found the right car in the UCD and that was just a pain. For example the FGT race, It took me quite a few cycles to find one so I could actually run the event. The truck race was another but in that one I was lucky enough to get a truck before the event was unlocked.
You should be able to buy a car that is suitable to run in any event easily. In the case of the classic races it would be ok to need a car from the UCD so long as there is somethiung that would qualify for it almost every cycle but in the cases where it requires a single car then that car should either be available in the NCD or as a prize car through winning an event
You should be able to buy a car that is suitable to run in any event easily. In the case of the classic races it would be ok to need a car from the UCD so long as there is somethiung that would qualify for it almost every cycle but in the cases where it requires a single car then that car should either be available in the NCD or as a prize car through winning an event
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Soul-less is cycling a list of random cars just to get a particular model instead of popping in the disk, selecting the car instantly, and spending hours racing it.
