rigidity improvement - Yay Or Nay?..

[Powellx235]

Okay, Ive looked around for an answer and cant find it. So does rigidity improvement do much or anything in drifting? Im just curious...
I would like to hear detailed replies about this.

Powell for President!! That is all....

 

[Duman079]

Hmm, i wonder if it has any effect at all. Maybe the lines of a car gets better then which will let it more aerodynamic and better with more downforce ? Grid? Dont know.

 

[SFX_Adavicro]

I usually always add it to my cars despite not noticing much of a difference compared to without. I think that it slightly reduces body roll similar to stiffening the sway bars a bit, so its usually a good thing. I doubt it makes any real difference in the scheme of things though.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

I think it does. Just as in real life, it should make the car more predictable by reducing the body twisting, making the suspension work like it's supposed to.

 

[monsterGAUZ]

I can feel a harder understeer when turning in but if you set up the suspension properly the rigidity makes the car more controllable and smooth. I noticed the hardest effect when I installed it in my Soarer long time ago. This car felt like a sponge before

 

[Stavingo]

It's supposed to stable the body roll of a car during corning, I can only guess it helps with transitioning drifts and whatnot.

 

[zedfonsie]

After reading this thread I put the reinforcement on some of my drift cars and it really did cure the problem of my cars oversteering when entering the corner.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Oversteer? Or understeer?

 

[Powellx235]

Ok. I use wheel and I put rigidity improvement on a few cars and it makes a difference. The car is much more settled on the road. Your not jerking or spinning the wheel as much. Theres no jerking now, all smooth movements.

 

[Red-Rice]

I spoiled my Sileighty using this option, then again I did nothing to the suspension after installation. It improved the handling but not in the way you/I want for drifting. Made it feel a little to planted, if you gets me.

 

[Stavingo]

I think the rigidity improvement would probably work on cars that have a lot of horsepower.

 

[Bayern1987]

I may not be a "true drifter", but i have found that it helps my gymkhana cars get around cones and there is more control. Seems that there is less twist on the chassie as i 360 into a powerslide around cones.

07 STI with custom gymkhana tune

 

[AOS-]

I've always felt that Chassis Reinforcement made the car sway less, which meant certain cars won't lock into a direction more than you like, therefore making your steering input more responsive. However, you get slightly more understeer.

 

[zedfonsie]

I've always felt that Chassis Reinforcement made the car sway less, which meant certain cars won't lock into a direction more than you like, therefore making your steering input more responsive. However, you get slightly more understeer.

The understeer actually helped me fix most of my cars.

I have cars that oversteer way to much now it just blips the apex its amazing what it can do

 

[Powellx235]

the understeer actually helped me fix most of my cars.

I have cars that oversteer way to much now it just blips the apex its amazing what it can do

+100000

 

[Duman079]

lol

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Am I missing something? I don't get why understeer would be desirable whilst drifting?

 

[Powellx235]

Am I missing something? I don't get why understeer would be desirable whilst drifting?

On the wheel, when your starting a drift on high powered cars it doesnt flick into a drift that you cant catch. Its much more relaxed and responsive.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Ahh, I see. So you're giving up front end grip for easier entries and more predictablility?

 

[Powellx235]

Ahh, I see. So you're giving up front end grip for easier entries and more predictablility?

No. You dont lose any grip. It makes the car more stable and less oversteery.

 

[Duman079]

Hmm interesting.

I always buy everything for my cars, but its redicoulously expensive sometimes. Sometimes you can buy the same car again and tune it in stead of fixing it lol.

 

[Powellx235]

Hmm interesting.

I always buy everything for my cars, but its redicoulously expensive sometimes. Sometimes you can buy the same car again and tune it in stead of fixing it lol.

I know but its hard to stop the massive oversteer on the corvette. And it really helps

 

[zedfonsie]

On the wheel, when your starting a drift on high powered cars it doesnt flick into a drift that you cant catch. Its much more relaxed and responsive.

Oversteer as in at the edge of the track completely missing the apex. Understeering as in the inside the apex or the "racing line" which the inside axis of the corner.

 

[Rovered78]

Drifting cars are best when they are set as a slightly understeering setup. The driver induces the oversteer.

 

[RufusGonePunk]

Hmm interesting.

I always buy everything for my cars, but its redicoulously expensive sometimes. Sometimes you can buy the same car again and tune it in stead of fixing it lol.

Are we not talking about the Cr.20k strut braces from the tuning shop, not the chassis repair from GT Auto?

 

[Forcone]

Drifting cars are best when they are set as a slightly understeering setup. The driver induces the oversteer.

This, at least for me, is absolutely true. I spent so much time tuning my cars to be constantly "tail-happy", and yes, got fairly good results with them. I could and can drift well with them, but nowadays I've realized how much easier it is to throw around a car with a bit of a "lazy" setup. Before I used way too stiff settings, thus making transferring weight really difficult = cars were too unpredictable/required driving on the edge constantly to keep them pointing where I wanted.

So to make this post not completely OT, I always use rigidity improvement on my drifters. I haven't done so much research on the effects of it, but they are anywhere near real-life effects, they are worth the virtual cash.

The suspension should do the flexing and bouncing, not the body of the car.

 

[Jesus]

Dont do it. I ruined my 2nd 350z by adding the struts. Yes it makes the car nice and stable but I find that I have to pull the e brake sometimes to keep the back out, compared to my 350z without which is fine.

 

[Forcone]

Dont do it. I ruined my 2nd 350z by adding the struts. Yes it makes the car nice and stable but I find that I have to pull the e brake sometimes to keep the back out, compared to my 350z without which is fine.

Did you compensate for the added rigidity by retuning your suspension?

 

[Jesus]

Did you compensate for the added rigidity by retuning your suspension?

Im lazy. I don't tune my suspension haha.

 

[DSpec-xGuNz]

Without it is much better for drifting from what ive seen on my cars. To me, it just made my cars grip in the rear and straighten out when i didnt want it too.