Rotary engine
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I know the rx7 has a rotary and i'm guessing the rx8 does too. Not sure about older models though
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All rx modles have rotary engines. R.X. means Rotary Experimental
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The Wankel rotary engine. And RX stands for Rotary eXport. Currently only the RX-8 uses the engine. In the past all RX models have, and rotary versions of the Familia, Luce, the Cosmo/Eunos Cosmo ofcourse, and others mixed in there.
Rotary engines are also used in airplanes, boats, and even R/C cars.
Mazda is the only car company that uses the rotary engine. In the past, NSU(no longer in buisness as of decades ago) used them in some production cars, and several US companies attempted to make prototype cars with rotary engines but never made any production cars.
Rotary engines have been around since 1953 if I remember correctly.
Mazda also uses rotary engines in thier Star Mazda race cars and LeMans cars. And that awsome victory at the 24hrs of LeMans in 1991.
Ruf RGT-the RX-8 is a totally different model than the RX-7, please remember that. It is therefore a first gen RX-8. A 4th gen RX-8 is still in the works.
Also all RX models are rotary powered. First gen RX-7s do have the 12A but also the GSL-SE has the 13B N/A, and in Japan they had 12A Turbos.
Other rotary engines include the 10A used in the 1967-1972 Cosmo Sports, the 20B used in the Eunos Cosmo Type E, and the R26B used in the 787B Lemans racer.
Hope you all are educated more by my post.
In the future please say what you know and don't estimate cause you can be spreading wrong info and that's no good.
Rotary engines are also used in airplanes, boats, and even R/C cars.
Mazda is the only car company that uses the rotary engine. In the past, NSU(no longer in buisness as of decades ago) used them in some production cars, and several US companies attempted to make prototype cars with rotary engines but never made any production cars.
Rotary engines have been around since 1953 if I remember correctly.
Mazda also uses rotary engines in thier Star Mazda race cars and LeMans cars. And that awsome victory at the 24hrs of LeMans in 1991.
Ruf RGT-the RX-8 is a totally different model than the RX-7, please remember that. It is therefore a first gen RX-8. A 4th gen RX-8 is still in the works.
Also all RX models are rotary powered. First gen RX-7s do have the 12A but also the GSL-SE has the 13B N/A, and in Japan they had 12A Turbos.
Other rotary engines include the 10A used in the 1967-1972 Cosmo Sports, the 20B used in the Eunos Cosmo Type E, and the R26B used in the 787B Lemans racer.
Hope you all are educated more by my post.
In the future please say what you know and don't estimate cause you can be spreading wrong info and that's no good.
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The X stands for experiment........
Export? lol
And a 4th generation RX-7 will not come. I dont know where you got that info, but many a Mazda rep has said that the last RX-7 to ever be produced rolled off the lot in 2002.
Just wondering Mazkid, do you own any RX model yourself?
Export? lol
And a 4th generation RX-7 will not come. I dont know where you got that info, but many a Mazda rep has said that the last RX-7 to ever be produced rolled off the lot in 2002.
Just wondering Mazkid, do you own any RX model yourself?
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don't forget the little rotary powered turck think it was called the Rupo or sumthin.... oh well just remember the truck too
think it was called the Rupo or sumthin.... oh well just remember the truck too
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btw: suzuki also made a rotary power motorcycle
the more you know
the more you know
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yeah i noticed that when tired telling him that a 4th rx7 depends on the rx8. mazad must prove they can make a reliable rotary powered car before they can make a rotary power sports car since they toke it up the ass very badly with the 3td rx7.
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Norton was also experimenting with a rotary engine in a featherbed frame in the '70s. The results showed some promise but they just couldn't get it reliable, and it was canned.
If memory serves me right, Citroën had a limited edition GS with a rotary engine that was used as a testcase.
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Concept and an actual running engine are 2 very different things. You also have to remember that Wankel was in Jail for several years, and his research center/workshop was torn down atleast 1 time.
Initial Racing - My dad currently owns a '86 RX-7 non-turbo, and use to own a '84 GSL-SE. Why would it be eXperiment when it had been done many times before? The Cosmo Sports, Luce, Capella rotary, Familia Rotary, and R100(and others) were all made before the RX-2.
The Rotary Engine Pick-Up, or REPU, ran from 1974-1977 I believe.
Also, the 3rd gen RX-7 production did end in April 2002, but Mazda has stated that a new RX-7 possibly based on the RX-8 will come. Weather that depends on the RX-8's success or not, who knows? The whole rotary endevour was incredibly risky and almost killed Mazda, and it is very evident that Mazda can build reliable rotary engines. The 3rd gen RX-7's weakness is in that first off it's forced induction. That puts un-needed stress on the engine. Also, to increase performance, Mazda thinned the apex seals too much and they were brittle.
The RX-8 is totally different in that it's N/A and has been thoroughly tested. And it makes just 5HP less than the US 3rd gen.
Initial Racing - My dad currently owns a '86 RX-7 non-turbo, and use to own a '84 GSL-SE. Why would it be eXperiment when it had been done many times before? The Cosmo Sports, Luce, Capella rotary, Familia Rotary, and R100(and others) were all made before the RX-2.
The Rotary Engine Pick-Up, or REPU, ran from 1974-1977 I believe.
Also, the 3rd gen RX-7 production did end in April 2002, but Mazda has stated that a new RX-7 possibly based on the RX-8 will come. Weather that depends on the RX-8's success or not, who knows? The whole rotary endevour was incredibly risky and almost killed Mazda, and it is very evident that Mazda can build reliable rotary engines. The 3rd gen RX-7's weakness is in that first off it's forced induction. That puts un-needed stress on the engine. Also, to increase performance, Mazda thinned the apex seals too much and they were brittle.
The RX-8 is totally different in that it's N/A and has been thoroughly tested. And it makes just 5HP less than the US 3rd gen.
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why do you think mazad made a 4 door 5 seater car instead of a 2 seater all out sports car like the 3td gen rx7? cuz they can't. like you said, last time they made a rotary powed all out sports car it almost killed them, so they must be very carfully when building anther rotary powerd car so theres not a repeat of the last they built a rotary powered sports car. so if the rx8 is sells well proving theres still a market for rotary powerd cars and is reliable they might make a 4th gen rx7.
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Wana b - First off, the RX-8 is a 4 seater. Also, did you ever think that Mazda wanted to market thier newest rotary car to more than just single people and couples? The RX-8 is a family sports car, not a full our sports car. It's in a totally different class from the RX-7.
Duo - I'm 99% sure it's eXport just from the fact that rotary cars had been around for 4 or so years before the RX-2.
Duo - I'm 99% sure it's eXport just from the fact that rotary cars had been around for 4 or so years before the RX-2.
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wtf man? your just assuming thats why mazad the rx8 and anther rx7. i know your cocky as hell but face it you could be wrong! i have somethin im going off (the rx8 review in SCC) and your just assuming. i could also be wrong but i see nothing to prove me wrong but what some cocky ass dude is assuming.
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they are very unreliable and very high manitance. i would never buy for a daily driver. maybe a race car. but im only 17 so i can't aford a race car. how long have you owned the car? they probalay are good if can aford to fix them every time they break.
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So Viper you base RX-7 quality off of what happened to 1 friend?
Wana b - If you haven't noticed, I get my info from Mazda and Mazda Media sites. I also use logical thinking based on what Mazda does and has done in the past related to the info I've gathered from 3rd parties and stuff. When the MX-Sportif concept came out, I said that it would become the next Protege...several months later the Mazda 3 came out and prooved that it would be the next Protege. I was right then. Now sure, how far can a 16 year old get into insider info? I make best with the info I have.
Wana b - If you haven't noticed, I get my info from Mazda and Mazda Media sites. I also use logical thinking based on what Mazda does and has done in the past related to the info I've gathered from 3rd parties and stuff. When the MX-Sportif concept came out, I said that it would become the next Protege...several months later the Mazda 3 came out and prooved that it would be the next Protege. I was right then. Now sure, how far can a 16 year old get into insider info? I make best with the info I have.
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Ohh, and about "RX"...if you look at the Japanese versions of the cars, they don't use RX(except with the RX-7 and RX-8). They use other names like Capella Rotary(RX-3), Luce rotary(RX-4), Familia rotary(RX-2), and Eunos Cosmo(for the RX-5). Thus since the cars are only RXs in countries other than Japan, they are eXports.
It's only a word anyhoo...
It's only a word anyhoo...
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After 8 different mass-produced car lines with rotary power, why would they still be calling it "experimental"?
Did it occur to anybody that maybe their marketing department just made it up and it doesn't stand for anything?
What does the "MX" stand for in the MX-3, MX-5, and MX-6? Probably nothing.
Did it occur to anybody that maybe their marketing department just made it up and it doesn't stand for anything?
What does the "MX" stand for in the MX-3, MX-5, and MX-6? Probably nothing.
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