*Rumor* Gran Turismo 7 Prologue headed to PS4?

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I'm gonna see what PD do on PS4 before writing them off. The spotlights on them, they can't blame any more of their problems on low RAM or weak GPU's anymore.

This is do or die for PD.
Not only that. A lot of people are going to be expecting better engine sounds, better AI, better everything and ditching the standard cars. Basically PD has to either match with the other devs (such as crazy pCARS) or lose fans, trust and die. They can't afford to fail.
 
According to VGChartz, GT5 has outsold Forza 3 plus Forza 4 combined, and GT6 is outselling Forza 5 at a rate of about two to one. The silent, happy majority is speaking in their own way, maybe.
 
I'm gonna see what PD do on PS4 before writing them off. The spotlights on them, they can't blame any more of their problems on low RAM or weak GPU's anymore.

This is do or die for PD.

Sadly enough in some way if GT7P or 7 itself under-performs to many people here expectations I can see them coming up with some excuse.
 
I'm gonna see what PD do on PS4 before writing them off. The spotlights on them, they can't blame any more of their problems on low RAM or weak GPU's anymore.
They will blame it on new hardware and the need to get to grips with.
According to VGChartz, GT5 has outsold Forza 3 plus Forza 4 combined, and GT6 is outselling Forza 5 at a rate of about two to one. The silent, happy majority is speaking in their own way, maybe.
How many Xboxone's have been sold though? Percentage wise i'm sure Forza 5 has done the better numbers.
 
They will blame it on new hardware and the need to get to grips with.
How many Xboxone's have been sold though? Percentage wise i'm sure Forza 5 has done the better numbers.
"But it was T10's decision to make a game for the Xbox One, so it's their own fault it's not selling trololol"
 
"But it was T10's decision to make a game for the Xbox One, so it's their own fault it's not selling trololol"
All it says is a bigger percentage of ps3 gamers dont want gt6 than a the percentage of xboners which dont want Forza 5, What i'm really saying is the fact GT6 has sold more than Forza 5 doesnt mean there are millions of people who are happy with gt6 if thats what post i was quoting was trying to get at, Not everyone who is unhappy with gt6 signs up to gtp to express their feelings
 
There's not going to be a prologue this around. Remember, development for the PS4 started back in 2008, giving PD lots of time to play around with the PS4 hardware. GT5 and 6 were created with PS4 in mind therefore, the transition should be smooth and quick. I say, PD is shooting for 2015 at the earliest.
 
There's not going to be a prologue this around. Remember, development for the PS4 started back in 2008, giving PD lots of time to play around with the PS4 hardware. GT5 and 6 were created with PS4 in mind therefore, the transition should be smooth and quick. I say, PD is shooting for 2015 at the earliest.
What would be the business case for not releasing a GT7P this holiday season, $39.95 with 100 premium cars and all the premium tracks? Then a full GT7 at holiday 2015?
 
What would be the business case for not releasing a GT7P this holiday season, $39.95 with 100 premium cars and all the premium tracks? Then a full GT7 at holiday 2015?
That would be hilarious.
Release GT7P with 300+ cars from GT6 missing for no apparent reason.
 
That would be hilarious.
Release GT7P with 300+ cars from GT6 missing for no apparent reason.
Well it's only a Prologue so 100 cars would be pretty good I would think. How many did GT5P have? 60? 70? Something like that. Throw in all the new cool tracks, Suzuka, Nurb, etc..people would eat it up:lol:
 
Well it's only a Prologue so 100 cars would be pretty good I would think. How many did GT5P have? 60? 70? Something like that. Throw in all the new cool tracks, Suzuka, Nurb, etc..people would eat it up:lol:

GT5P only had 60 cars because that's all they had at that time.
If we're to believe PD, the circumstances with GT7 are different from GT5 when it comes to existing assets.
GT7p just makes little sense to me OTHER than additional revenue. At least with GT5p you could say it was a pity demo since the wait between gt4 and 5 was so long.
 
GT5P only had 60 cars because that's all they had at that time.
If we're to believe PD, the circumstances with GT7 are different from GT5 when it comes to existing assets.
GT7p just makes little sense to me OTHER than additional revenue. At least with GT5p you could say it was a pity demo since the wait between gt4 and 5 was so long.
It's always about the money that's a given. But with the great leap forward (in theory) possible on the PS4, the possible 2 year wait for full GT7, PCars and Drive Club dropping this year, a Prologue this year seems like a no-brainer. By definition it can't be nearly as comprehensive as the full game but with 100 cars for example it should have a bigger roster than PCars, not sure about Drive Club.

Only catch is, can PD get out a Prologue while maintaining and updating GT6. Methinks not...something's gotta give..and usually it's the old stuff (GT6) that'll get tossed aside in favour of the new and exciting.
 
How many Xboxone's have been sold though? Percentage wise i'm sure Forza 5 has done the better numbers.

"Better numbers". That's kind of hard to figure out. FM5 is one of the few Xone launch titles and launch titles are meant to drive console sales. Therefore, we should expect a higher attach rate than GT6 which is a swan song release.

It's interesting that not only are PS4 console sales outstripping Xone sales by more than two to one, but the old PS3 is also doing well. PS3 console sales right now are also outstripping Xone console sales (by about four to three). Global total Playstation 3+4 console sales in the week of 15FEB2014 at about 190K were about 2.4 times total Xbox console sales at about 79K.

The other trend I see is that it appears that the GT worldwide online community is favoring GT6 over GT5 . This is not an extraordinarily scientific experiment I conducted, but it is an attempt to get a measure of how much online activity is going on. You can try this for yourself. Choose a seasonal in both GT5 and GT6, one in which you have yet to set a time. Then run a clean lap, but do so very, very slowly. The objective is to try to set the slowest lap in the world. (This is really easy for me!). Then look at your ranking. This will give you an approximate count of the number of players who have attempted the seasonal, both for GT5 and GT6.

All these numbers and what are we doing? Comparing bananas and bicycles maybe.

See what you can see in the sales numbers. Given any preconceived conclusion, these data probably support anything you want!


Platform-------N. America----Europe---------Japan-----------Global

PS4-logo.png
---------51,705---------57,200---------N/A---------126,514
PS3-logo.png
---------18,939---------21,578---------10,639-------64,239
XOne-logo.png
---------34,190---------10,562---------N/A-----------48,032

X360-logo.png
---------19,327---------9,555---------310------------31,070
 
Considering it took them a grand total of 8 years to develope GT6, I don't hold very high expectations. With Project Cars on the horizone, PD will fall into obscurity, never to be seen or heard from again. Well, one can wish, right?
I have a feeling that you'll vanish from this world before Gran Turismo does. ;)

For all the caterwauling and doomsaying about Gran Turismo which comes along periodically, it never seems to come true. And in GT6, in spite of everyone saying that offline racing is worse than waterboarding, I've had more fun losing races than I have winning them in GT5 and any Forza. Against those awful bots, mind you. I've never enjoyed subcompacts in any racing game so much. Racing around the Nurburgring is heavenly.

You guys can just move right along if you want. I'm staying.
 
I have a feeling that you'll vanish from this world before Gran Turismo does. ;)

You guys can just move right along if you want. I'm staying.

Thanks for reminding me that this is indeed a Gran Turismo forum.

Let's be realistic for a moment: PD is not ready to battle with pCars. This will not end well.

It's been one heck of a run for this series, but it's luster is severely waning. :indiff:
 
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Let's be realistic for a moment: PD is not ready to battle with pCars. This will not end well.
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except for the fact GT and pCARS are 2 different style of games. One focuses on MANY road/street cars with some race cars and a massive collection of both real and fictional tracks, made exclusively for the Playstation, while the other has some race cars and a smaller amount of road cars and, at this point, Is only on PC.
 
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except for the fact GT and pCARS are 2 different style of games. One focuses on MANY road/street cars with some race cars and a massive collection of both real and fictional tracks, made exclusively for the Playstation, while the other has some race cars and a smaller amount of road cars, on a average track list (good tracks, just not many), and, at this point, Is only on PC.
No. To the average consumer they are both driving/racing games.
One is "rumored" to have a prologue version this year. The other is confirmed for release on PS4, XBONE, and PC.

I'm done talking about "that game" in this forum.
 
except for the fact GT and pCARS are 2 different style of games. One focuses on MANY road/street cars with some race cars and a massive collection of both real and fictional tracks, made exclusively for the Playstation, while the other has some race cars and a smaller amount of road cars, on a average track list (good tracks, just not many), and, at this point, Is only on PC.
A. It's coming to every major console this year (expected)
B. An average track list? Not many? Really?

List of tracks

European Circuits

- Anhalt - Oschersleben
- Azure Circuit - Monaco
- Badenring - Hockenheim
- Belgian Forest Circuit - Spa Francorchamps
- Besos - Circuit de Catalunya
- Brands Hatch (laser scanned)
- Derby - Donington Park
- Eifelwald - Nordschleife (Team Member+ during development)
- Eifelwald GP - Nurburgring GP (Senior+ during development)
- Florence - Mugello
- Heusden - Circuit Zolder
- Imola
- Loire 24 - Le Mans Circuit de la Sarthe
- Loire National - Le Mans Bugatti Circuit
- Milan - Monza
- Moravia - Brno
- Silverstone


American Circuits

- California Raceway - Willow Springs
- Connecticut Hill GP - Watkins Glen
- Lakeville Raceway - Sonoma Raceway
- Monterey - Laguna Seca
- Wisconsin Raceway - Road America


Asian Circuits

- Dubai Autodrome
- Jin Ding - Zhuhai
- Sakitto - Suzuka


Oceania Circuits

- Bathurst - Mount Panorama

Kart Tracks

- Belgian Forest Karting Circuit (Spa-Francorchamps Kart Circuit)
- Chesterfield (fictional)
- Glencairn (fictional)
- Summerton (fictional)
- Dubai Kartdrome


Country Roads

- California Highway (Team Member+ during development)
- Azure Coast (Team Member+ during development)


Planned/Confirmed Tracks

- Oulton Park (laser scanned)
- Snetterton (laser scanned)
- Cadwell Park (laser scanned)

- Ruapuna Park
- Macau


Historic Tracks

- Bannochbrae (fictional historic GP track located in the scottish highlands)
- Historic Badenring - Hockenheim (Pre 2002)
- Rouen Les Essarts
- Historic Milan - Monza (1967. GPL2.)
- Historic Milan Oval
- Silverstone 1975
- Solitude Rennstrecke
- Spa Historic


Oval Tracks

- Concord - Charlotte Motor Speedway **
- Delaware - Dover
- Harrison Pike Raceway - Indianapolis Speedway *
- Henrico - Richmond
- Memphis - Bristol
- Volusia - Daytona ***


Fictional Tracks

- Test Track

Anyone that would not drool over this track list, needs their oil changed:lol:
 
A. It's coming to every major console this year (expected)
B. An average track list? Not many? Really?



Anyone that would not drool over this track list, needs their oil changed:lol:
Yes, it's coming to consoles, however no in-game footage has been released for the PS4, XOne or WII; only PC.

I saw a post in the pCars section that only listed a few (15 or so) tracks. My previous comment about tracks has been removed :lol: However, only a few are officially licensed... I think that's what I saw :dunce:
 
Yes, it's coming to consoles, however no in-game footage has been released for the PS4, XOne or WII; only PC.

I saw a post in the pCars section that only listed a few (15 or so) tracks. My previous comment about tracks has been removed :lol: However, only a few are officially licensed... I think that's what I saw :dunce:
Yes licensing is an issue, but it doesn't preclude the tracks from being in the game, licensed or not. Without the license they won't be able to use the real name, most or all of the banners and advertising and some other stuff, but the track will be the same. Cote D'Azur from GT is the same way.

No console footage yet and I would expect it will look about the same as Drive Club, GT7Prologue, Forza 5 etc, with maybe slightly more detail or cars chosen like this one that have much more detail inherent in their design:
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The next few years should be fantastic for sim racing fans!!!
 
A. It's coming to every major console this year (expected)

I'll believe it when I see it. A crowdfunded console racing sim less than a year away from release and still without a major publishing partner? Can you say vaporware? At the very least I'm expecting massive delays into 2015 or 2016. I'm only referring to the console version of pCars of course. But as a console gamer and a racing fan I have watched countless publishers and developers pass over porting incredible looking PC sims time and time and time again. Anyone remember GTR 2 for the 360? Had my heart set on that game for two years. It got canceled, we had to wait another three years, and in the end all we got was Race Pro...ugh
 
Another thing about P CARS is it's yet another racing sim. A pretty one, one I think that has around 130 cars in it, including a few dozen street cars. But how that's supposed to obliterate all other racers, I have yet to see a hint. We've heard this all before, about Toca, Enthusia, GTR, Ferrari/SC Challenge, Shift, Race Room P CARS, Assetto Corsa... racing games come along, some are nifty, some are okay, but somehow they never seem to touch Forza or Gran Turismo's coattails. And Forza, for all its goodies, still falls in a very long Gran Turismo shadow.

You guys can proclaim doom and gloom all you like, but the world votes with its monies every release, and GT just keeps on trucking no matter what. And a big reason why is in my post above.
 
I'll laugh if pCARS can't come to consoles but only PC. :lol: Does it even have customization? Because I'm pretty sure that's what everyone loves in racing games.
 
Yeah, by buying a lot less copies of GT6 than they did GT5.

Your comparison with GT5 is correct.

However, people are buying a lot more copies of GT6 than they did Forza Motorsport 4. First ten weeks 1.98 million vs 1.55 million for FM4.

So tell me why Polyphony Digital is doomed? Has Turn 10 folded yet?


Excuse me for getting out of here, the sky is falling.
 
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