This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know why everyone cares so much. First of all, If they are smashing you, your in the wrong lobby. And what kind of an argument is "specialy when its using rear wings" They are in the game for a reason? Why not use it?? And on top of all that, who said you have to engage a tandem with a car you think is to fast?? simply, let him go right on by. Like I said before, It's a game. Play it how it was intended to be played. Lazy, don't take this the wrong way. I'm just saying what I feel is right.
No problem, man. I completly respect your point of view, and also respectly... i disagree. In fact it is a game, in fact we can´t take everything "in the nail of the knife" (brazilian popular proverb), its all about have fun, actualy.
Otherwise, there are several aspects that worries me about the GT5 online drifting, specialy about building a wall of knowledge pointed to the wrong direction. Specialy when i see a newbie forcing himself to start from the scratch with a powerfull car, witch doesn´t means that its the easier and safest car.
My very first drifting car on GT5 was a RX-7 FC, and i didn´t knew no fast way to get money and raise my collection, so i passed at least 1 month drifting every day only with this car. And im thankfull for that, because its a very sensible and technique car, witch helped me understand the physics, the tire´s grip, the inertia before drop in a hairpin... everything about.
Also, i wanted to show for everyone that i was a newbie. That was my place in the lobbies. Rarely i tried to tandem before know how to do a clean lap doing the correct clipping points, taking care about the angle, the right speed. And when i was near the another people, i wasn´t puting anybody on fear, because i was drifting on a slow car (Class C) so everyone could chase me or leave me behind when i was too slow. And it was fine for several weeks.
My second car was a Camaro SS, and i just bough and finetuned it after i realize that i was able to start to tandem with faster cars. The speed diferences was huge, but i also i realized that this Camaro SS in wrong hands could be a massive weapon of disgrace.
After 1 year since the game was released, most people have lots of cars and know how to gain money fast. And that´s terrible, because its the idea of "i want it all, i want it now" in its worse format. Starters dont pick a S13 or a FC, they jump all the stages and start using Vipers, Vettes, M3s, FD Spirit R... or even worse, when they try to prove how cool they looks while spin out on a Pagani Zonda. And then, besides they dont learn anything usefull, they will probably mess the room.
Speaking about newbies and wrong rooms, i confess that i took a long way to understand why a public room is so messed and why build a good network is so important. Stills, there is no how to control who is in. Sometimes you get acess on "that" private lobbie from "that" respectfull pro drifter, but most of times you will see all kind of person witch came in by the same method than you, and many times will not be only good drifters. So this idea of "wrong place" is not that exact. What is important is to know your own learning stages and raise the right weapon for that day, and watch what everyone are doing.
About wings:
Is it cheating? No.
Is it there for help? Yes.
Does it gives a big advantage on some tracks, like Suzuka East? Yes, of course.
Are they ugly? In my opinion, most of times, yes.
Drifting cars are not all about performance, its also about style. And, again in my opinion, its very nice to see a wingless car at the same pace with a car with rear spoilers, cose he will show more skills and conservate his beauty.
Finally about supercars. I don´t like to use my supercars, but sometimes im forced to do it when the drifting speeds are above the normal. I prefer to keep my choices between class C or B, instead A or S.