rx7 type r bathurst r (FD) '01

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i posted this in the public drift seting depot but no one replied to me so far, i'm sorry for making a new thread but i need ur help.

i have a rx7 type r bathurst r (FD) '01 and i was wondering, is it the same tuning for all rx7's (FD) ? because i couldn't find suspension setup so far.

need help

thanx
 
Because they're commonly seen as a "noob" car in GT5 :sly:

More like... People on GTP have nothing better to do then complain about what ever they can.

"Oh.. its for noobs"
"Oh... its to fast"

In my opinion, drift what you want. "it's a game"
 
I have to agree with Gunz on this one. I think calling the FD a "noob car" is a little harsh.

The reason the FD gets a bad rap around here is that for some reason, it's handling characteristics are quite different from most other drift cars. It is able to maintain a much higher speed through a drift, which makes it very difficult to tandem with. It is for this reason that the FD is on the "banned cars" list for most competitions, and will be frowned upon in most CH tandem lobbies.

That said, if you wanna drift an FD, go for it, they are a blast to drive. Just be aware that if you start in an FD, and then try to switch to a different car, you will find the handling quite different, and will need to relearn a few things.
 
Because they're commonly seen as a "noob" car in GT5
i dont see it that easy to drift with a rx7 maybe because mine is over 580 hp and using comfort hard tyres.

well i managed to get 33890 drift points in trail mountain track.... if u can do that with same hp and tyres then yes i'm a noooobest guy ever lived.

I have to agree with Gunz on this one. I think calling the FD a "noob car" is a little harsh.

The reason the FD gets a bad rap around here is that for some reason, it's handling characteristics are quite different from most other drift cars. It is able to maintain a much higher speed through a drift, which makes it very difficult to tandem with. It is for this reason that the FD is on the "banned cars" list for most competitions, and will be frowned upon in most CH tandem lobbies.

That said, if you wanna drift an FD, go for it, they are a blast to drive. Just be aware that if you start in an FD, and then try to switch to a different car, you will find the handling quite different, and will need to relearn a few things.

well i drive more than one car.... so far the BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 is my fav.
 
i dont see it that easy to drift with a rx7 maybe because mine is over 580 hp and using comfort hard tyres.

well i managed to get 33890 drift points in trail mountain track.... if u can do that with same hp and tyres then yes i'm a noooobest guy ever lived.



well i drive more than one car.... so far the BMW Concept 1 Series tii '07 is my fav.

Some people say the FD is easier to drift than other drift cars, that's why it gets the "noob" label. It is also used by a lot of "noob" drifters (not saying you are a noob) in online lobbies, which contributes to it's bad reputation.

Like I said, don't hesitate to drift a FD...just know that it probably won't be welcome in most online lobbies.

The tii is a verygood drift car, same with the 135i.

And if I can offer one piece of friendly advice, don't brag about drift scores on this site...that won't earn you too many friends around here. Most drifters consider the "drift point system" in GT5 to be broken, and actually a poor indication of how good a drifter you really are. There are too many ways to exploit it, so the scores don't really mean much.
 
I believe you people have got it wrong. It's only the Spirit R FD that gets labelled the "noob" car. IMO I like FD's, my RE RX7 is pretty fast even on CH tires, 65mph average, but I'm only running stock HP. I just like the way you get the instantaneous rev the minute you put your foot on the accelerator. :D
 
And if I can offer one piece of friendly advice, don't brag about drift scores on this site...that won't earn you too many friends around here. Most drifters consider the "drift point system" in GT5 to be broken, and actually a poor indication of how good a drifter you really are. There are too many ways to exploit it, so the scores don't really mean much.
Too true, in my eyes a good drifter can tandem close and consistently, can follow lines and hit clipping points, and is flexible with many different cars and tracks. I couldn't care less how many "points" you can get around a track on your own, it means nothing.

Good to hear you use comfort hards at least, so we don't have to go through that argument for the 936th time.

I just hope you're not one of those who use auto transmission 👍
 
Its ok argue over the "its a game" concept, but there is no how stay quiet when you see an Bathurst (Spirit R) FD on the track, specialy when its using rear wings. Because if its on "newbie´s" hands, probably he will have enough speed and chase you until any accident happens. And if its on any "expert´s" hands, it will be so incredible fast, that you will be forced to remove the dust from "that exotic supercar" and try your luck.

And then:

- "Wow, what a coward. He is drifting using a supercar."
- "Shut up, bro. You´re on a Bathurst!"

Thats just a random thought. Nobody is forced to keep the "calm pace" on the tracks, but i believe that as faster are the tandems, harder they will happen. So newbies, please, just put on your mind that pick a "S-Chassis" as learning car brings much more respect than an optimal ultimate speedy car.
 
ok ok guys thanks for all the info about the online lobbies , noob cars.....etc

the whole purpose of this thread is getting ur help for the suspension setup. now it became a general discussion about damn FD's.

I just hope you're not one of those who use auto transmission

automatic my Oklahoman ass hehehe

i use manual and drift using 3rd and 4th gear


thanx guys for the help i appreciate it. i'll try to upload some drift videos soon to hear ur comments.
 
Its ok argue over the "its a game" concept, but there is no how stay quiet when you see an Bathurst (Spirit R) FD on the track, specialy when its using rear wings. Because if its on "newbie´s" hands, probably he will have enough speed and chase you until any accident happens. And if its on any "expert´s" hands, it will be so incredible fast, that you will be forced to remove the dust from "that exotic supercar" and try your luck.

And then:

- "Wow, what a coward. He is drifting using a supercar."
- "Shut up, bro. You´re on a Bathurst!"

Thats just a random thought. Nobody is forced to keep the "calm pace" on the tracks, but i believe that as faster are the tandems, harder they will happen. So newbies, please, just put on your mind that pick a "S-Chassis" as learning car brings much more respect than an optimal ultimate speedy car.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know why everyone cares so much. First of all, If they are smashing you, your in the wrong lobby. And what kind of an argument is "specialy when its using rear wings" They are in the game for a reason? Why not use it?? And on top of all that, who said you have to engage a tandem with a car you think is to fast?? simply, let him go right on by. Like I said before, It's a game. Play it how it was intended to be played. Lazy, don't take this the wrong way. I'm just saying what I feel is right.
 
More like... People on GTP have nothing better to do then complain about what ever they can.

"Oh.. its for noobs"
"Oh... its to fast"

In my opinion, drift what you want. "it's a game"

this man is smart...... people on GTP complain to much, you can drive and FD on your own time and use some other car in comps like me ^_^, i drive an RX-7 FC (touge) for drifting but i use a Autozam AZ-1 as my D1 car xD..... 👍
 
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't know why everyone cares so much. First of all, If they are smashing you, your in the wrong lobby. And what kind of an argument is "specialy when its using rear wings" They are in the game for a reason? Why not use it?? And on top of all that, who said you have to engage a tandem with a car you think is to fast?? simply, let him go right on by. Like I said before, It's a game. Play it how it was intended to be played. Lazy, don't take this the wrong way. I'm just saying what I feel is right.

No problem, man. I completly respect your point of view, and also respectly... i disagree. In fact it is a game, in fact we can´t take everything "in the nail of the knife" (brazilian popular proverb), its all about have fun, actualy.

Otherwise, there are several aspects that worries me about the GT5 online drifting, specialy about building a wall of knowledge pointed to the wrong direction. Specialy when i see a newbie forcing himself to start from the scratch with a powerfull car, witch doesn´t means that its the easier and safest car.

My very first drifting car on GT5 was a RX-7 FC, and i didn´t knew no fast way to get money and raise my collection, so i passed at least 1 month drifting every day only with this car. And im thankfull for that, because its a very sensible and technique car, witch helped me understand the physics, the tire´s grip, the inertia before drop in a hairpin... everything about.

Also, i wanted to show for everyone that i was a newbie. That was my place in the lobbies. Rarely i tried to tandem before know how to do a clean lap doing the correct clipping points, taking care about the angle, the right speed. And when i was near the another people, i wasn´t puting anybody on fear, because i was drifting on a slow car (Class C) so everyone could chase me or leave me behind when i was too slow. And it was fine for several weeks.

My second car was a Camaro SS, and i just bough and finetuned it after i realize that i was able to start to tandem with faster cars. The speed diferences was huge, but i also i realized that this Camaro SS in wrong hands could be a massive weapon of disgrace.

After 1 year since the game was released, most people have lots of cars and know how to gain money fast. And that´s terrible, because its the idea of "i want it all, i want it now" in its worse format. Starters dont pick a S13 or a FC, they jump all the stages and start using Vipers, Vettes, M3s, FD Spirit R... or even worse, when they try to prove how cool they looks while spin out on a Pagani Zonda. And then, besides they dont learn anything usefull, they will probably mess the room.

Speaking about newbies and wrong rooms, i confess that i took a long way to understand why a public room is so messed and why build a good network is so important. Stills, there is no how to control who is in. Sometimes you get acess on "that" private lobbie from "that" respectfull pro drifter, but most of times you will see all kind of person witch came in by the same method than you, and many times will not be only good drifters. So this idea of "wrong place" is not that exact. What is important is to know your own learning stages and raise the right weapon for that day, and watch what everyone are doing.

About wings:
Is it cheating? No.
Is it there for help? Yes.
Does it gives a big advantage on some tracks, like Suzuka East? Yes, of course.
Are they ugly? In my opinion, most of times, yes.

Drifting cars are not all about performance, its also about style. And, again in my opinion, its very nice to see a wingless car at the same pace with a car with rear spoilers, cose he will show more skills and conservate his beauty.

Finally about supercars. I don´t like to use my supercars, but sometimes im forced to do it when the drifting speeds are above the normal. I prefer to keep my choices between class C or B, instead A or S.
 
Now may I say like a rotary expert?

I won't argue with you about noob car and cheating. We have different points of view. The only thing I want to say about it is that a man who learnt everything about FD3S Spirit R, and reached the best speed possible for this car, will never stop loving it.

I can't explain why it's faster then Vettes, Ford GT and Vipers. But from my expirements I know that any other FD won't be as fast as Spirit R. All others RX-7's are just normal cars.

Now about Bathurst FD. The wing won't make it as fast as Spirit R. It has a normal 20 wing. (Not 28 like Spirit R) So it will be a normal drift car. It's just your style/setup balance. I don't know any good settings for it. I use one major setting for all cars, so I can't help you.

More like... People on GTP have nothing better to do then complain about what ever they can.

"Oh.. its for noobs"
"Oh... its to fast"

In my opinion, drift what you want. "it's a game"
True 👍 Most of GTP drifting cominuty are trying to look cooler then they are. I say, come drift with japanese people, and you will see the big difference.
 
True 👍 Most of GTP drifting cominuty are trying to look cooler then they are. I say, come drift with japanese people, and you will see the big difference.

Not exactly sure what you're getting at...."trying to look cooler than they are"??

And while I believe that Japan still has a leg up on the rest of the world when it comes to real life drifting, I completely disagree that Japanese GT5 drifters are better than everyone else.

The guy you're agreeing with (Gunz) is one ofthe best drifters around, and he's Canadian. MonsterGAUZ, easily one of the best drifters out there right now, is German. And there's any number of amazing drifters from the US, as well as every other corner of the globe.
 
Not exactly sure what you're getting at...."trying to look cooler than they are"??

And while I believe that Japan still has a leg up on the rest of the world when it comes to real life drifting, I completely disagree that Japanese GT5 drifters are better than everyone else.

The guy you're agreeing with (Gunz) is one ofthe best drifters around, and he's Canadian. MonsterGAUZ, easily one of the best drifters out there right now, is German. And there's any number of amazing drifters from the US, as well as every other corner of the globe.

Its nice to read this, because after so many propaganda in favor of the JP mates, i feel a big disapointment when i see any bad drifter using the JP flag, and it doesn´t happens too rarely. Sometimes i even think that is a random drifter using any JP account just to look cooler.

Also, about "looks cooler than they are", i still not understanding the real mean on that. Everyone have full rights of share their point of view here, and thats not why they will be pointed as arrogant. If everyone had exactly the same opinions about everything in the game, a forum wouldn´t be necessary.

Again, about FDs, i never said that nobody should use it anymore. What i don´t want to see in the game is a major percent of people using that car because teoricaly its more eficient overal. It would be bad not only for the GT5 drifting cars diversity, but also for the FD lovers.

And im not saying also that is a bad car, or a car witch works only using small angle techniques. If you check INSANE-ROTARY´s purple FD, there is no how to put any flaw on his movements (besides he is too fast for me, unless i pick any highly agressive car).
 
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