Same game better graphics.

[jflomario]

Seems like every other post I see demands better graphics and sound. Is that all it takes to sell the next GT?

 

[Samus]

For some people, maybe. For others we want a lot more than that, a hell of a lot more.

 

[jflomario]

Agreed but it feels like just about every post I see says GT needs less vacuums or "me want only premium car " . What about the little things ?

EDIT: i.e. What about the 20 million credit cap ? Something like this is not much of a problem in itself but when combined with the Used Car Dealership it can be quite a nuissance.

Where is my dualshock 3 support ? I cannot afford a wheel so why am I punished with slower lap times and less responsive cars for not having one. Supposedly, 9 million copies of GT5 have been sold. I really doubt there is that many wheels bought. Everyone who has a ps3 has a ds3.

What about the load times made worse by these stupid wasteful animations and that blasted music that plays everytime you want to buy a car, tune it or change its oil?

The sorting options for online and finding a room. Something as simple as more options to the filters.

This game has had so much of its potential wasted. They might as well have waited for the PS4.

The car list and dlc is a joke.

My impression is for GT6 to sell, all they will need is to return the previous AI, and get all premium models+car sounds. Hell, I feel they don't even need the sounds so long as the cars are shiny enough.

Freakin beta test !!! Why did this sell so much ?!?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

For many, the theory of GT6 being on PS4 almost demands better graphics. I want only Premium cars from a gameplay perspective; the Standards are a dead-end method of modelling and impose some pretty heavy restrictions because of that.

...and they're ugly .

But I'd be more than content with the graphics staying at the level of, say, a field of Premiums at the variable-weather/time Nurburgring that we currently enjoy. Just with a steady 60fps instead of stuttering, with even better lighting and particle effects.

Most of the things I'd like improved upon for GT6 have little to do with the graphical power of the game; GT5 just wasn't as fun for me as previous titles, and it comes down to some very strange gameplay and progression choices, personally.

 

[Samus]

For me graphics is all about consistency. I don't need super flashy graphics to enjoy a game, I still play decade old PC sims with pretty rough graphics but they're fine because they're consistent. GT5 was horrid because it was inconsistent, it was like seeing the mario from 20 years ago in the new Wii U game, it's distracting. Plus as Slip says with the standards it wasn't just the visuals, it was what they could do that was a problem.

As long as everything is consistent in GT6 I'm not too fussed.

Sound is an important factor for playing a racing game though. It's not going to stop me but it is half of the enjoyment factor and it needs to be good.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

Gt was just as fun as other gt's .. to much of the same IMO but fewer of what four had . Gt needs to revamp its current event formula and or have a HUGE sum of events in 6 as well as random race offers, the ability to create teams with drivers from b spec that race with you * like in grid XD* Gt5 was cut short due to my lack of interest in b spec.. HALF of teh game is b spec events * it does have about 10 unique events that a spec does not have *

 

[IceMan PJN]

Agreed but it feels like just about every post I see says GT needs less vacuums or "me want only premium car " .

People want other things, but these address some big, glaring problems. Having 80% of your car list looking like it's running on a last-gen console is shameful. GT is known for accuracy in stuff like car modeling, physics, and getting the tracks right, and having respectable audio is just another part of "getting it right", but you can't get the audio right if it sounds like you're racing in the vacuum isle at Walmart.

 

[ShiftingGears]

People want other things, but these address some big, glaring problems.

This. And getting rid of B-Spec needs to happen.

There are many problems with GT5 that cumulatively make it an aggravating game. They will need to be addressed for GT6 if I am to buy it.

 

[Brutaka]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=260298Honestly i wouldn't mind the exact same graphics (not the standards) but i really do want a better Sim mode (GT life or whatever its called). I think its main problem is that it tried to use a technique that might have died after GT4, the old sim mode that GT has used in the past should be revamped. An idea i had for that is:

You can create sim mode races and championship series with AI, you are able to set up car restrictions, tire restrictions, how many races,laps, if it is a championship or separate races,credits,etc. Also if you have a PSN you can post your championships online to share with the world. Of course GT6 would still have the PD implemented races.

Looking back on it i think this would have been better to put here

 

[Articuno]

Just make B-Spec optional like GT4

 

[hennessey86]

It needs a physics over hall, it needs to stop being a jack of all trades and just concentrate on track racing.

 

[CUnger]

It needs a physics over hall, it needs to stop being a jack of all trades and just concentrate on track racing.

^^^Agreed ^^^

 

[jflomario]

It needs a physics over hall, it needs to stop being a jack of all trades and just concentrate on track racing.

GT5 , jack of all trades ? How so ?

If anything the series has gone backwards with its features.

@articuno yea b-spec needs to go;

Where you referring to bspec aswell or did you mean oil changes and such hennessey ?

 

[Crispy9001]

There are only so many readjustments you can make to GT5's graphics, like shadows or trees, but its dang near perfect. Although, the visual style I'd prefer is like GT2/3 with the car and track detailing and stereoscopic 3D/Full HD of GT5. You may ask, what makes GT2/3 different with those GT5 qualities I mentioned? Less of the ultra-dark heavy emphasis on shadows and yawn-inducing late afternoon look of nearly every daytime track that looks terrible in comparison to the nice midday or BEAUTIFUL sunset looks of GT1/2/3 tracks plus lack of color at times (more an issue in GT4). Or, for that matter, a lack of a feel of speed unless you're sitting up close to a high quality display with widescreen and/or 3D!.

Besides itsy-bitsy tweaks to GT5's existing graphics and the graphic style in general, within the subject of audiovisual improvements for GT6, it also
NEEDS BETTER SOUNDS!!!!!!!!!!
No, I'm not a Forza fan (yet) and I haven't even played one, but this YouTube video should show much better GT5's SOUND could be!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uowcA8cyEI
Watch it, and you'll if you haven't been able to experience Forza yet (like me).

 

[xxDingerxx]

If it is a PS4 game, then I expect premium cars to be the norm, while premium tracks get a little facelift with trees, spectators and grass shaders. The modelling of grandstands etc are fine as is.

The main thing though has to be a ton of AA. Needs that by the bucket load.

 

[Samus]

GT5s graphics are far from perfect, a lot of tracks have awful, dated textures.

 

[Scaff]

For me if GT6 is just a better looking/sounding version of GT5 then it will be the first in the series that I will not be buying.

The GT series was the first to really push the idea of having realistic physics on a console platform, and for GT1 to 3 they were at the front of the pack in that regard. With GT4 things started to slip and competitors started to appear, some very, very good (Enthusia, RBR) and some not so (Forza - the first one).

GT5 has in my eyes seen the GT series slip in a wide range of areas, with a number of competitors being better in a number of areas, including vehicle selection (GT5 has the numbers - but its missing a lot of cars I would love), track list (please can we have S2U's list in every racing game as a core) and most importantly physics. In this area many titles are starting to get close and some are now a good way ahead (FM4 and Race Pro).

PD need to stop depending on brand loyalty and reclaim the lost ground in areas other than just car count and looks.

 

[jflomario]

Gt5 has too many walls .... tracks feel limited , the leveling system, cash gain , lack of good race modded cars,... i look at the 'other' games car list (no not iracing)and they have lots track vehicles in the GT class not just jgtc plus a livery editor. Why is polyphony so far behind? I made this thread to emphasize what it is besides the aesthetics(graphics, sound) that would legit make this game better. How about day/ night on all tracks ? More current car list ?

Skyline 91,92,93 all vspec,ls , zr1(just an example) ,green editions , yet not one up-to-date hyundai. Hell not even a current civic, a car imo the pride of Japan.

I hate the tuning aspect of this game because I'm not good at it, yet they place a lot of emphasis on it. (My own problem but they could have put better in game descriptions for suspension).

More aspec events ! C'mon a 50 gb disc and thats all we get. GT is only graphics and tuning. They need to step up. Yes the driving is there but every game has that now be it exaggerated or realistic.

Graphics are not my concern because if they don't fix them along with the sounds this time around it would be suicide. They would get laughed into bankruptcy.

 

[thelvynau]

For me if they retained the current graphics and had all cars premium as long as they improved the gameplay I would be happy.

 

[VBR]

I'd like to see more cohesion in the graphics between cars & environments. Export the premiums straight into GT6, upgrade of all the low res textures on tracks, & then get rid of all the close up replay angles that PD use to try & hide them.

 

[NCRthree]

Same game better graphics, uh no. Both need to be improved but unless there's a better "game" aspect, graphics won't matter.

I don't even like the Premium cars appearance watching a replay. In real life there's not a hard reflection on door edges or trunk lids. I hate that, takes away from the car's lines. Sad to say but I like the way the Standards look in replays just because those reflections aren't there.

GT5 dropped the ball big time with gameplay. Seasonals had to be added to further any offline interest. Arcade mode you have to jump through hoops to get a grid worth racing. Worse is the AI, if that isn't improved we'll continue to have TT's with moving chicanes on track. And 5 lap "races" with a lead car 30-45 seconds ahead. In what world are races held like that? It's like PD just figured online would be the popular "career" but with it's server quality, forget it.

At least PD is tweaking the physics in GT5, that's a good sign and an acknowledgment improvement is needed. I doubt I'll go PC anytime soon or go Xbox so PS games are going to be what I play. Cost is what holds me back not loyalty for now. But I'll take a good long comparison between all platforms for the best simcade or sim and not just plunk down for GT6 and a PS4.

 

[Samus]

Loading times/menus/UI is another area that needs huge improvement. So many tasks are so slow and long winded thanks to poor UI design and long loading times. Buying a car takes an age with the delivery truck, get rid of that. Also buying more than one car at once, GT5 throws you back to the main menu each time meaning huge loading times going in and out of both NCD/UCD. Then there are all the pointless menus like oil change/car wash/parts that should be all in one in the garage, simple buttons, not tedious animations.

I really want to see huge improvements in that area.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

I want better graphics but not car's graphics. i want better track graphics and most important better environment.

 

[Crispy9001]

Same game better graphics, uh no. Both need to be improved but unless there's a better "game" aspect, graphics won't matter.

I don't even like the Premium cars appearance watching a replay. In real life there's not a hard reflection on door edges or trunk lids. I hate that, takes away from the car's lines. Sad to say but I like the way the Standards look in replays just because those reflections aren't there.

GT5 dropped the ball big time with gameplay. Seasonals had to be added to further any offline interest. Arcade mode you have to jump through hoops to get a grid worth racing. Worse is the AI, if that isn't improved we'll continue to have TT's with moving chicanes on track. And 5 lap "races" with a lead car 30-45 seconds ahead. In what world are races held like that? It's like PD just figured online would be the popular "career" but with it's server quality, forget it.

At least PD is tweaking the physics in GT5, that's a good sign and an acknowledgment improvement is needed. But I'll take a good long comparison between all platforms for the best simcade or sim and not just plunk down for GT6 and a PS4.

Another sensible person like me, I mean, come the HELL ON with the BS about the f:censored:ing lead cars in Seasonals.
GT5 is IMHO God-awfully flawed. . It's the reason Gran Turismo 1, Gran Turismo 2, 3, 4 and PSP are still played extensively by me and thousands, even millions of others who love GT.

 

[Crispy9001]

Loading times/menus/UI is another area that needs huge improvement. So many tasks are so slow and long winded thanks to poor UI design and long loading times. Buying a car takes an age with the delivery truck, get rid of that. Also buying more than one car at once, GT5 throws you back to the main menu each time meaning huge loading times going in and out of both NCD/UCD. Then there are all the pointless menus like oil change/car wash/parts that should be all in one in the garage, simple buttons, not tedious animations.

I really want to see huge improvements in that area.

Remember the days of GT3 where the menus were seamless with no rough pop-up like GT2 with smooth gradual transitions and super-fast load times, even for races it was decent! Probably as fast as GT5, at least with track loading.

 

[Brutaka]

Another sensible person like me, I mean, come the HELL ON with the BS about the f:censored:ing lead cars in Seasonals.
GT5 is IMHO God-awfully flawed. . It's the reason Gran Turismo 1, Gran Turismo 2, 3, 4 and PSP are still played extensively by me and thousands, even millions of others who love GT.

GTPSP? man i never knew people hated GT5 that much that it would be demoted to GTPSP level.

 

[Crispy9001]

GTPSP? man i never knew people hated GT5 that much that it would be demoted to GTPSP level.

At least you can choose what color you want on any car you buy and there's an easy solution to good racing and competition in GTPSP, even though I haven't played it yet.

 

[Zuku]

Just make B-Spec optional like GT4

This I don't want to race 24 hours endurance I'm not the type of person that exactly everything has to be real.

 

[sk8er913]

Better mirror details, like smoke and dirt could be useful and nice, and I want more GT Cars though, I don't really car if they look perfect, yeah its cool and graphics are important, sounds I agree need an improvement, but what I most want are more Touring Cars and GT Cars 90s, 00s, and 10s.. Don't leave out the e36 or e46 or the Mclaren or the Lister Storm race cars...

 

[BoneSawTX]

it would have to have a really good multi-class racing system for me to buy.