Sauber Mercedes

[chopin1810]

Is the Sauber Mercedes race car really that great of a machine, because I'm starting to wonder if i'm wasting time doing the formula gt championship to win it. I already have the Minolta '89 and I think that's the best you can do as far as supercars go.

 

[DuckRacer]

Is the Sauber Mercedes race car really that great of a machine, because I'm starting to wonder if i'm wasting time doing the formula gt championship to win it. I already have the Minolta '89 and I think that's the best you can do as far as supercars go.

The Minolta is the fastest race car in the game. But the Sauber is also one of the top Group C cars in the game (along with the Minolta.) And for the F1 Championship, you eventually have to complete it to get 100% (unless you don't want the sense of accomplishment for completing the game).

Duck7892

 

[pmgolf]

Try this setup, chopin:

It was created by Rac3rX.

Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car '89

SR_______7.1/7.8
RH_______61/61
SB________4/4
SRB_______5/7
CA______2.2/1.0
TA________0/0
ST________6/6

IT__________5
Acel________36
Decel_______17

Brakes______6/4

Downforce____56/85

1st___________2.959
2nd___________1.779
3rd___________1.206
4th___________0.871
5th___________0.670
Final__________3.591
Auto___________20

ASM over______0
ASM under_____0
TCS___________5

Pete

 

[JParker]

The strongpoint of the Sauber is it's neutral handling. Meaning it is not a struggle to drive like many of the LMP's. It's great right out of the box. It needs very little tuning- step up the brakes a touch, add a little camber, tweak LSD to liking and voila. Once you drive it, you'll feel the difference from other LMP's

 

[chopin1810]

I've read in many places that the Sauber is the best car to use in Sarthe 24th II. The prize car for that is the Bently Speed 8 which is a dissapointing prize car considering how hard the Sarthe endurance is. I always see it in 5th or 6th place. Are there any good tuning setups for the Speed 8 out there? I had no problems with my minolta on Nurburgring 24th, but I'm usually in 3rd place with it on the Sarthe endurance. Any ideas?
It feels like a waste to me to do the entire Sarthe 24th II endurance for a low grade group c car, since I don't worry about game completion percentages too much.

 

[JParker]

I've read in many places that the Sauber is the best car to use in Sarthe 24th II. The prize car for that is the Bently Speed 8 which is a dissapointing prize car considering how hard the Sarthe endurance is. I always see it in 5th or 6th place. Are there any good tuning setups for the Speed 8 out there? I had no problems with my minolta on Nurburgring 24th, but I'm usually in 3rd place with it on the Sarthe endurance. Any ideas?
It feels like a waste to me to do the entire Sarthe 24th II endurance for a low grade group c car, since I don't worry about game completion percentages too much.

I ran the Sauber on Sarthe I and it dominated the crowd. Bob lapped the R92 6 times and the rest of teh field many times over. The C5R was lapped 52 times. I ran the Sauber stock with my suspension and LSD tuning on medium racing tires. At first it looks shaky, the R92 is apparently running hards or superhards. Once Bob clears the pack he just runs away with it.
I was actually after the Speed8 when I ran this circuit. I was thinking it was won on I instead of II. I'm really wanting that car. Funny how the ones you can't buy are the ones you want most.
I'm not sure by your post, are you Aspec'ing or Bspec'ing?
BTW, I ran the N'ring 24 in a Camaro LM and pretty much dominated the race. Lapped all but the Audi TT touring car, but was within 3 minutes or so of catching him.

 

[Zardoz]

I've read in many places that the Sauber is the best car to use in Sarthe II 24-hour...

That's not what I found. It was close, though:


https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=61921



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[chopin1810]

I'm not sure by your post, are you Aspec'ing or Bspec'ing?

I'm on b-spec. Man, who the heck can run a 24 hour endurance race on a-spec?

 

[JParker]

I'm on b-spec. Man, who the heck can run a 24 hour endurance race on a-spec?

No doubt man, just checking. You'd be surprised how many guys around the boards "are" running the enduros in Aspec. One guy imparticular, can't remember his username, started one of the 24 hour endurances and then got busy at work and home and his Playstation wound up being on for 2 or 3 weeks before he finally finished. I might try some of the shorter ones I could maybe do over the weekend. But those big boys Bob will just have to do.

 

[CMcMahon]

I can't really imagine doing the full 24h race. Usually, I'll do the first hour or so by myself, and then let my stig carry on from there, and come in whenever I feel like racing.

 

[chopin1810]

No doubt man, just checking. You'd be surprised how many guys around the boards "are" running the enduros in Aspec. One guy imparticular, can't remember his username, started one of the 24 hour endurances and then got busy at work and home and his Playstation wound up being on for 2 or 3 weeks before he finally finished. I might try some of the shorter ones I could maybe do over the weekend. But those big boys Bob will just have to do.

I did an 8 hour endurance in gt3 non-stop. I never got up once. It was a headach and I didn't even get the car I wanted, so I gave up.

 

[Nate14Gt]

I did an 8 hour endurance in gt3 non-stop. I never got up once. It was a headach and I didn't even get the car I wanted, so I gave up.

In GT3 the longest enduro was 100 laps at Tokyo. That took 2 and a half-3 hours. But it seemed like 8 hours. So did the 90 lapper at SSR11, I think it was 90. That was boring as hell.

The Sauber is worth winning, it's a fun series in an LMP or group C car and gets you 4.5 million for winning as well as the C9.

 

[JParker]

Are there any good tuning setups for the Speed 8 out there? I had no problems with my minolta on Nurburgring 24th, but I'm usually in 3rd place with it on the Sarthe endurance. Any ideas?
It feels like a waste to me to do the entire Sarthe 24th II endurance for a low grade group c car, since I don't worry about game completion percentages too much.

I came home last night to a new Bentley Speed 8. I drove it at the Circuit Tours in Extreme hall and absolutely love it. Here's the only changes I had to make.
Height: 80/83
Bound: 7/8
Rebound: 7/8
Camber 2.4/ 1.3
Toe: -1/0
ASM 0/0/1 I use a controller.
LSD: 18/40/17
Brakes: 5/5 ease on brakes
I liked the gears so didn't mess with them.

The biggest reason you see the AI lagging behind is that the Bentley gets extraordinary tire life, and the AI typically cruise until the tires heat up. All the races at the Circuit Tours, most of the AI would pit and I wouldn't have to, even the AI Bentley.
With the Minolta at LeSarthe, are you running stock susp setup or modified, and what tire setup are you using? On the Minolta I use a mixture of Mediums on the front and Hards on the rear. Bob is able to keep good lap times with the Mediums on the front and gets good life out of the Hards on the rear, even with the addition of a Turbo.

 

[chopin1810]

I came home last night to a new Bentley Speed 8. I drove it at the Circuit Tours in Extreme hall and absolutely love it. Here's the only changes I had to make.
Height: 80/83
Bound: 7/8
Rebound: 7/8
Camber 2.4/ 1.3
Toe: -1/0
ASM 0/0/1 I use a controller.
LSD: 18/40/17
Brakes: 5/5 ease on brakes
I liked the gears so didn't mess with them.

The biggest reason you see the AI lagging behind is that the Bentley gets extraordinary tire life, and the AI typically cruise until the tires heat up. All the races at the Circuit Tours, most of the AI would pit and I wouldn't have to, even the AI Bentley.
With the Minolta at LeSarthe, are you running stock susp setup or modified, and what tire setup are you using? On the Minolta I use a mixture of Mediums on the front and Hards on the rear. Bob is able to keep good lap times with the Mediums on the front and gets good life out of the Hards on the rear, even with the addition of a Turbo.

Thanks. I'll definatly try it out.
I'm using a modified suspension setup on the minolta. For tires I have hards in the front and super-hards in the back.

 

[Torana05dude]

Can anybody help me get/win a Sauber C9? I can not buy it, and all the cheats i find tell me i can win it by doing the Grand Valley 300 enduro. however i keep winning a auto union streamliner (piece of ****e). aaaaaaaaaah! I am in Australia and have the PAL version (I think).

 

[Zardoz]

Can anybody help me get/win a Sauber C9? I can not buy it, and all the cheats i find tell me i can win it by doing the Grand Valley 300 enduro. however i keep winning a auto union streamliner (piece of ****e). aaaaaaaaaah! I am in Australia and have the PAL version (I think).

As it says in the initial post on this thread, the C9 is the prize car for the Formula GT series (in the Extreme hall).

This isn't a "cheat", but here's the PAL prize car list, posted right here on GT Planet:

http://gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=57459

 

[djaft3rb3ats]

thanks for the list

i have done all the endo races but the le sarthe 1&2, is it me, or does ur driver get better will more bspec points, cuz i cant win the 24hour le sarthe with my 13k mileage on my milolta..





djaft3rb3ats

 

[Zardoz]

...i cant win the 24hour le sarthe...

You and tons of other people. PAL users get it worse than NTSC users. Major discussion of the bug here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=65361

 

[Torana05dude]

thanks Zardoz.
The best cheat/prize list i have came from cheatplanet.com, and it reads different to this one!
Should have just came here first!

 

[djaft3rb3ats]

thanks a lot zardoz for the link, appreciate all the help i can get



djaft3rb3ats

 

[goldenllama]

i am running the NTSC version of GT4 and i also get the audi POS aftger winning the grandvalley enduro...this isnt just a PAL issue. how else can i get the Sauber?