SCC - Ferrari 348 Challenge Series - Series Complete - Results Posted!

[jjaisli]

Looks like mhm66 & ManyMoenJack have both set very competitive times in the 1:24s. GREAT going guys, well done! I managed to set a time just below Turnupdaheat of around 1:25.05. I feel there's a little bit more there as I wasn't able to put in a 'perfect' lap but to be realistic, 1:25 is pretty much at the limit of what I can do unless I'm really lining up all the ducks.

 

[drivatar]

A ridiculous move from Sony will probably stop me from joining this event.

There were rumors I didn't believe but it's official: Sony is removing the OtherOS feature from the old PS3.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

I won't update my PS3. PSN and feature games are gone. This means I'll have to buy a new PS3. I don't know if/when this will happen.

🤬 🤬 🤬

 

[bullie77]

A ridiculous move from Sony will probably stop me from joining this event.

There were rumors I didn't believe but it's official: Sony is removing the OtherOS feature from the old PS3.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

I won't update my PS3. PSN and feature games are gone. This means I'll have to buy a new PS3. I don't know if/when this will happen.

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Can't you reset to the original OS from the PS3? (I believe there's such an option at the XMB)

PS - BTW, My best in Homestead for now is 1:27:xxx but, on a consistent basis I stick to high 1:28 / low 1:29... I guys simply make me feel like crap! (note the courajeous resistance in admitting the obvious which is that I am in fact crap!)

 

[jjaisli]

A ridiculous move from Sony will probably stop me from joining this event.

There were rumors I didn't believe but it's official: Sony is removing the OtherOS feature from the old PS3.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/

I won't update my PS3. PSN and feature games are gone. This means I'll have to buy a new PS3. I don't know if/when this will happen.

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Drivatar, I know this is being discussed in the PS3 update topic so I don't want to take this issue too far off topic, other than how it pertains to your plans and ability (or inability) to enter this event. As somebody who uses my Mac based systems for virtually ALL of my computing needs, I've never used the PS3 for anything other than a game console or Blu-Ray player and the thought of installing another OS is not something that ever occured to me, although I vaguely remember hearing about it. I thought at first that this update would just disable the 'INSTALL' other OS feature but apparently it disables it all together. Are you actually considering buying another PS3? As there is currently a shortage of PS3s (see here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3803824&postcount=12539) this could be rather costly at the moment. Either way, I'm sorry if this prevents you from participating.

PS - BTW, My best in Homestead for now is 1:27:xxx but, on a consistent basis I stick to high 1:28 / low 1:29... I guys simply make me feel like crap! (note the courajeous resistance in admitting the obvious which is that I am in fact crap!)

Don't feel too bad. As I said, I'm struggling at Suzuka and haven't been able to put in a time for the 700PP event of less than 2:05.5. But I think I will either have to change the car or work on the setup as I think I've pretty much reached my personal plateau performance wise. And it's been a busy week. I ran a few laps in V8SS in the Jaguar at Portimão and without any tuning (preset race tuning, end up with a 1:48 as my best time. There I'm pretty sure I can gain more but I need to find the time to work on it.

But getting back to the thread topic, I've chosen the other tracks for the 348 Challenge series and if I have time, I'll post them today.

 

[new_soul]

Speeking of Homested times...

1'23,36 after cople of houers of time trail and set up changes, this is it, finaly i chousen a set up that is up to 0.5 slower than this time, but a lot easyer to drive.

 

[MannyMoenjack]

PS - BTW, My best in Homestead for now is 1:27:xxx but, on a consistent basis I stick to high 1:28 / low 1:29... I guys simply make me feel like crap! (note the courajeous resistance in admitting the obvious which is that I am in fact crap!)

You'll get it bullie. That's a difficult track. I'd like to say it's driving ability that got me below 1:25, but it's got much more to do with the car setup and figuring out which gear gets me through various corners most quickly. I'm still pretty sloppy on that first turn...

My favorite thing about leaderboards? They don't show the ugly laps...

 

[Biggles]

I just came back to SCC last night after a long absence & downloaded the update. Got repeatedly spanked by Manny at Silverstone, won easily at Mugello after he drove off a couple of times, & squeaked out a win at Homestead. I found the 348 less grippy than I remember, but it's probably been a couple of months since I last drove. I was driving with default set-ups. I take it set-ups are allowed in the Challenge series racing? What's the conclusion about the new set-ups? Are they somewhat "realistic"? Are the effects more reasonable than they were?

Nice to have another NA SCC driver out there.

 

[jjaisli]

Anything below a 1:25 is a VERY impressive time Manny. 👍 (Obviously Shift hasn't dulled your old Ferrari Challenge reflexes much. ) Yes, it's possible to do slightly better but it means you really have to be on it, and threading the needle on every single corner.

Great time new_soul. And thanks for adjusting your setup as you're now only about a full second faster than me rather than 1.5.

Biggles, you're not the first to comment that the game feels differently after the patch. None-the-less, Eutechnyx has said that they've made no changes to the physics other than the odd ride height issue, so I tend to think that those who notice a difference have just been away from the game for a while. Either way, I've made a decision and set up changes WILL be allowed.

My feeling is, the ride height set-up bug is gone* and that was the main reason for banning setups. Because it didn't make sense to have a rear suspension raised 30 cms in the air like a monster truck and having the affect of giving you an extra 20 kmh of speed down a long straight, and allowing faster acceleration to boot. And it made it blatantly unfair to those who chose not to take advantage of this bug. I still feel that allowing maximum negative camber front and rear further benefits controller users who are better equipped to take advantage of an evil handling car with snap oversteer. But the simple truth is, on average, those guys who are faster(er) finished ahead whether setups were allowed or not. And because this series will be one track per weekend, people don't have to devote so much time to testing over multiple tracks and trying to find a compromise setup that works at 5 different venues. And acting as setup policeman as well as host was just too much of a hassle. Besides, I'm sure people will be glad to use their personal liveries again.

* The setup bug is STILL there if you had your ride height adjusted to max before the patch and don't go back into the setup screen. But anybody seen with a monster truck in the lobby will be asked to change it during qualy.

EDIT: Firedshot from the Racing Elite forums was up visiting Eutechnyx last weekend. And they told him that SCC is going to be released in North America in the next few months. So I'm hoping this game will be given an extended life when new NTSC players start picking it up.

 

[arvore]

[IEDIT: Firedshot from the Racing Elite forums was up visiting Eutechnyx last weekend. And they told him that SCC is going to be released in North America in the next few months. So I'm hoping this game will be given an extended life when new NTSC players start picking it up.

And from what I could uderstand they also intend to keep working on solving SCC problems...maybe other patches can be on the way? Or am I being too naive?
Either way it would be nice if MHailwood could also bring some feedback of his visit to this forum:tup:

 

[MannyMoenjack]

Anything below a 1:25 is a VERY impressive time Manny. 👍 (Obviously Shift hasn't dulled your old Ferrari Challenge reflexes much. ) Yes, it's possible to do slightly better but it means you really have to be on it, and threading the needle on every single corner.

Thanks Jeff. Having played FC is definately a big help. My task now is to get the braking points of the various tracks into my head.

EDIT: Firedshot from the Racing Elite forums was up visiting Eutechnyx last weekend. And they told him that SCC is going to be released in North America in the next few months. So I'm hoping this game will be given an extended life when new NTSC players start picking it up.

That will be great if SCC does get released in NA fairly soon. I feel that having picked it up only a couple of weeks ago, I've really missed out on some excellent racing around here, and a NA release may re-invigorate the online community. (Last night online it was just Biggles, myself and a rather bizzarre individual interested in Trophies... )

 

[jjaisli]

* FULL SEASON details now listed in POST #1 of this thread.

 

[MannyMoenjack]

* FULL SEASON details now listed in POST #1 of this thread.

Wow, this looks like it'll be a blast Jeff. The track selection is great, with the possible exception of Mount Tremblant which is my personal bugbear. On the bright side, this kind of competition is just what it usually takes for me to really learn the tracks.

I'm really excited that you chose Redwood Park! This seems like one of those tracks that everyone sort of forgets about, but it's a great track for passing. I'm counting the days...

 

[chilledant]

Hi Guys.
Having also not played the game 4 a couple of weeks/months, i went to see how my pace is before the Grand Prix(Sepang) starts.
I reset my ride height and settings a bit, I did a 10lap race around inveld, Got a 1.23.5 ok i guess,
Anyway the Ai has improved i pass them after lap2 instead of lap1.lol
See you 4 sum races soon.

 

[hm66]

Hi guys
Hasn't been a lot of activity lately about this event.Can we have a head-count as to
how many will show up on sunday.

 

[jjaisli]

Me! But I guess that goes without saying.

 

[MannyMoenjack]

I plan to participate. 👍

 

[arvore]

Count me in too:tup:

 

[new_soul]

I'm having internet conection pronlems, bean 24 h sinc i last was abel to
comnect to psn.. hope will be fine soon..

EDIT: Problem solved I'm online again

 

[bullie77]

I'm in for Sunday also. I had a very good time yesterday night practicing with you guys (Jeff, Arvore, Manny, Drivatar) and I was very pleased with my overall performance - but you know my standards are low so anything but last is good to me.

Loved the race in Silverstone where I managed to hold on with the front pack - that incident will cost you a few G's Jeff! Just wati for the repair shop invoice that I will address you

At homestead I managed also to drop my personal best lap to 1:27:337 but, above all, I felt much more consistent than usual, which ultimately allowed me to managed to stay (fairly) in touch with the rest of the pack.

I'm feeling much more comfortable now on the G25 and, although I'm still not as fast as I am in the pad, I feel more consistent and making less mistakes.

With the exception of VIR... but youknow, that is not a track... it's...a "thing"...

 

[Hun200kmh]

I'm in, of course. Needing practise, maybe tonight I'll join you guys (couldn't do yesterday due to previous GT5P commitments)

 

[arvore]

I'm in for Sunday also. I had a very good time yesterday night practicing with you guys (Jeff, Arvore, Manny, Drivatar) and I was very pleased with my overall performance - but you know my standards are low so anything but last is good to me.

Loved the race in Silverstone where I managed to hold on with the front pack - that incident will cost you a few G's Jeff! Just wati for the repair shop invoice that I will address you

At homestead I managed also to drop my personal best lap to 1:27:337 but, above all, I felt much more consistent than usual, which ultimately allowed me to managed to stay (fairly) in touch with the rest of the pack.

I'm feeling much more comfortable now on the G25 and, although I'm still not as fast as I am in the pad, I feel more consistent and making less mistakes.

With the exception of VIR... but youknow, that is not a track... it's...a "thing"...

Yeah some very enjoyable racing last night:tup:
Shame that Marcus(wnabm3) got those connection issues ,but I guess he was using wireless connection...I've hardwired my PS3 earlier for weekend events since it seems the only way Me and Jeff can stay in the same lobby...
Tonight I'll be out so I guess I'll see you guys on Sunday...👍

HAaa!One last word out for Manny who after a couple of weeks playing the game already has a top player pace.👍

 

[jjaisli]

Loved the race in Silverstone where I managed to hold on with the front pack - that incident will cost you a few G's Jeff! Just wati for the repair shop invoice that I will address you

That was really a mess. I was leading the race and just totally lost it on the exit of Stowe and foolishly tried to power through it. I spun several times and ended up right in the middle of the track, directly in front of Manny, who really had no time to react. After he hit me I spun around several more times (I didn't even know which direction I was facing) and I saw you and SpeedFreak coming on on both sides of the track. And in an effort to get away and off the track, I think I managed to hit both of you. Not one of my finer moments. I don't dislike Silverstone but it's never been kind to me.

Either way, don't worry about your pace. You're noticeably quicker now on the wheel and I had a really tough time following you in some places.

Once Avore was kind enough to remove El Puntadoro from the lobby, the racing was a lot of fun. I realize though that while my car may be really dialed in at Mont Tremblant and Montreal, I will have to tweak my setup slightly for Miami (and VIR). I realize I'm losing quite a bit of time on two particular corners at Miami that's good enough for 0.5 so I'll have to work on that tonight.

 

[bullie77]

Once Avore was kind enough to remove El Puntadoro from the lobby, the racing was a lot of fun.

I'm not trying to make any nationality discrimination but why is it that all spanish racers I found online are nothing but punters?! IN EVERY GAME?!

I'm sure it's just a coincidence and bad luck from me, since I'm also sure there are there plenty of fair good fast spanish drivers... but I never come across one yet..

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

I'm not trying to make any nationality discrimination but why is it that all spanish racers I found online are nothing but punters?! IN EVERY GAME?!

I'm sure it's just a coincidence and bad luck from me, since I'm also sure there are there plenty of fair good fast spanish drivers... but I never come across one yet..

Maybe they're just punting you because they saw your nationality

 

[Hun200kmh]

Maybe they're just punting you because they saw your nationality

LOL, Bullie, you can't spend nearly 800 years of intermitent wars with them and then expect some peaceful racing

 

[Shaggy Alonso]

LOL, Bullie, you can't spend nearly 800 years of intermitent wars with them and then expect some peaceful racing

Then again, that would be like me and the rest of the Irish brigade punting off anyone with an English flag beside their name in the name of 'fighting oppression, virtually.'

 

[Hun200kmh]

Hey ... we never opressed Spain, we're the Irish around here ...

 

[bullie77]

Maybe so I'll start using her has a driver in my cars!

Heck... we are a country because our first king beat the s*** out of his mom (spanish) so he could rule "something"... talk about nowadays rebel generation and disrespect of the elderly... this was in 1143!

 

[MannyMoenjack]

That was really a mess. I was leading the race and just totally lost it on the exit of Stowe and foolishly tried to power through it. I spun several times and ended up right in the middle of the track, directly in front of Manny, who really had no time to react.

I wish I could've taken a video of what I could see coming out of Stowe. It was like a Destroyer smoke screen. I veered to the left and crossed my fingers, but just got your front left quarter. It didn't even check my speed very much. It's too bad too, because in spite of that track being a favorite of mine I don't think I would've caught you in the couple laps that were left.

Either way, don't worry about your pace. You're noticeably quicker now on the wheel and I had a really tough time following you in some places.

I agree. Bullie you were noticably faster last night than you were when we raced a week or so ago.👍

Once Avore was kind enough to remove El Puntadoro from the lobby,

the racing was a lot of fun. I realize though that while my car may be really dialed in at Mont Tremblant and Montreal, I will have to tweak my setup slightly for Miami (and VIR). I realize I'm losing quite a bit of time on two particular corners at Miami that's good enough for 0.5 so I'll have to work on that tonight

Yeah Jeff, you were really quick on Mount Tremblant. I was hoping that once I could get past Bullie which wasn't done easily, I could try to cut into your lead a bit, but even when I was clear you were still pulling away. I only had one bad lap in that race ( a small miracle considering my history with that track!).

By the time we got into the last lap at VIR with me in the lead and watching the split time to you get smaller and smaller... I think my face must've looked a lot like this... It was a fun night all around however and I just hope I drive as well on Sunday... because as you may have noticed I occasionally fold under pressure.

 

[jjaisli]

I'm not trying to make any nationality discrimination but why is it that all spanish racers I found online are nothing but punters?! IN EVERY GAME?!

I'm sure it's just a coincidence and bad luck from me, since I'm also sure there are there plenty of fair good fast spanish drivers... but I never come across one yet..

Donlimpio13. 👍 Nice, friendly, clean, and fair racer. But I'm sad to say I could name at least 1/2 a dozen others off the top of my head who dirty punters. Certainly double or even triple that if I check my 'blocked users' list on the PSN. I don't like to enforce undeserved stereotypes but there is some irony that 2/3 of the racers on my 'blocked' list are Spaniards. Perhaps Alonsomania has created a generation of Iberian sim racers who in their zealousness to finish first, either tossed away the book on racing etiquette or simply jumped from step 1 to 5.

In general, the rule I live by when racing on line, is the first step, the number one priority above all else should be NOT to hit other cars. Sometimes it happens. And a little side by side rubbing when two equally matched racers are going at it neck and neck can be exciting and entertaining. And other times, just general lag makes the occasional tap unavoidable. And if you really screw up and push somebody off, fair racers should have the decency to wait for them, regardless if it compromises their own race.

That guy last night was literally knocking people off the road when they got a run on him, and using people as bumper stops in order to make corners. Once or twice he slid off the road and simply re-entered the track like a...well like a bull , oblivious to who was coming. If it happens once or twice fine. But he just kept at it, over and over again. During the first race at Miami, Manny was disappearing into the distance and Arvore and I kept getting knocked off the track. To be fair, there are a lot of people on-line who race with this attitude. To which I say, they're welcome to it. And if they're running the lobby, I'll leave. If they're in my lobby, I'll politely suggest they change their approach. If they don't, they're welcome to leave. And I'll insist on it.