Several issues, multiple cars.

[Not A Fox]

Haven't played in ages, got back into playing GT4 a while ago. I can't say I'm too good at tuning.

The style I have for driving is, I use the right analog to more accurately apply the brakes early and, in soft to moderatey hard turns, apply them while still pressing down on acceleration. I tend to say it's working for me, it's controlled and precise, and I hardly get screeching tires out of it. At the very least, I've gotten better on the high HP FRs like the Aston Martins & TVRs. I still have some cars that I need to get better on and have yet to tune properly. If you have suggestions, You'd be a saint.

In order of importance:

CTR2

SLR McLaren

Spyker C8

Beetle RSI

Skyline GTRII V-Spec Nur

They're all fully modded or will be. I can convinced easily though on Sacrificing Horsepower on the McLaren and V-Spec for better turning on deceleration. And I'm usually running on El Capitan & similar courses.

 

[mafia_boy]

Okay........3 instant things come to mind:

1. What tyres are you using??
2. How much power are you running in each car??....from that list of cars, the Beetle RSi is the least powerful at around 300hp.
3. Suspension settings, have you done anything to it??

I can also add things in like the Brake Balance Controller, LSD settings, Downforce on top of it.......

The best things to do in respects to most of these cars would be to have a peek through each of the established GTP garages (MFT, RCV & Aussie Tuners) and see what they have setup in each of those cars. I know MFT has an awesome R34 & RCV has a nice Spyker off the top of my head.

All their results speak for themselves.....most of the guys are placed in the Top 3-5 consistently in any of the tuning comps going around.

Then you have the grease monkey's like myself who stick it to these well known teams.

 

[Not A Fox]

I'll try to remember what all I just said (I didn't know the forum had an auto delete posts with expletives):

Super Soft race to Soft sport tires, the latter used only on I'm not allowed to use race tires.

They're all fully modified for speed. the RSi running at 415 HP, the McLaren at 800 something, the CTR2 899 and the Spyker is at 638 I believe. I can be mistaken on any of them. LSD settings I don't concern myself with, I usually buy 1.5's in preference over full customize to save myself from a bit of misery. Downforce, I can't modify because I almost never buy aftermarket spoilers on GT4 (they tend to ruin aesthetics for me). On suspensions, I usually stiffen the springs by degree of 10 to 20 (11.9 to 12 or 13.9) on both ends. Transmissions usually kept at 20 to 25.

I almost always use El Capitan to tune the cars at and tend to go for similiar courses.

I am looking at some of the forums established tune shops for settings, though. I figured it would still be better to put this out here while I do so, considering my messed up driving style.

 

[mafia_boy]

Ahhh, I see. Usually that comes down to camber and toe settings then. And depending on the car, maybe brake balance control.

For me personally with a high powered FR car, I want as much tyre on the ground as possible, so I remove a lot of camber on the rear but add a bit to the front, but keep some negative toe angle on the rear so that you still have that ability to turn quickly, be it under braking or normal cornering.

Just for an example, try your car with default camber settings (2.0/1.0), then take that 1.0 off the rear to have 100% of the rear patch on the road. You'll notice a difference with the rear grip in most spots, be it good or bad.

Then do the same with the toe angle....1 step at a time, and you'll notice the improvement/worsening of the car.

*added bit* I just looked again and you're running over 10.0 on springs?!? Ummm, make it about 6.5 to 8.0. On a course like El Capitan it's a big helper.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

And yet a stock NSX-R has spring rates at around 10.3-10.4 front and 8.3-8.4 rear.

 

[mafia_boy]

The NSX-R needs it that hard!! And the rear is around the 8* mark which was the upper limit of what I suggested. I'm giving him suggestion for El Capitan which is notoriously bumpy....if it was something like Fuji 80's, I would say harder the better!!

I gave you a plug for your (Vince's) Spyker anyway so . And looking at the spring rates of that car (8.0/9.0) I'm pretty much on the money with my comment, it's front's are at the upper limit and the rears a tiny bit more than that.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Tein's second-softest kit for the NSX has 10kg/12kg springs.

Cars can indeed handle stiffer springs. And stiffer springs/swaybars also allow you to use less camber, which in turn allows for better braking. Even at El Capitan.

 

[Not A Fox]

Well, I did what was prescribed on the Spyker. The settings didn't match up with me in the least. I had terrible understeer on acceleration until I switched from a 1.5 LSD to full race, then I terrible understeer on acceleration & braking followed by spin outs whenever I had hit something. Truth be told, I probably goofed on the instructions.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

You mean you applied the settings found in this post: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2791379&postcount=3

or?

 

[mafia_boy]

That would be the assumption RJ, that was where I pointed him off to.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

But he mentioned going from a 1.5 way LSD to a full race unit, while Vince's tune specifies a FC unit anyhow.

I think he was following what you told him to do with the camber and rates, Mafs.

 

[mafia_boy]

No, I was only explaining the camber rates and the differences that occur when you change those settings. The Spyker's settings however are all RCV's problem.

He changed the LSD because in the 3rd post he said he didn't want to mess around tuning the FCLSD, so he went for the 1.5 way instead.

 

[Not A Fox]

Actually, I meant full customize. D:

And, I followed the advice before cambers and rates, then went default and changed it to Vince's.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

And that worked out how? Still monster understeer, or no?

If so, I'll fix it.

 

[Not A Fox]

Neither provided desirable results, no. Currently, the Spyker's on the back burner until I'm comfortable with managing the 899 horses from the CTR2. The McLaren I've managed to tame. Pretty much given up on the RSi, but I'll try one of the settings I saw here sometime on it. The Nur, I'm too busy to even worry about anymore.

But yeah, The Spyker had understeer on both occassions, if I'm not mistaken. If your willing to help out, Rotary, you'd be a saint. I'd owe you something big for it. D:

::EDIT::

I've managed to get the Spyker down pretty much, now. I'm still willing to test out any settings you want me to try out though.