Smartphones! Too many choices!

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Nexus S vs iPhone 4, help me choose.

  • Nexus S

    Votes: 9 56.3%
  • iPhone 4

    Votes: 7 43.8%

  • Total voters
    16

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MY 2011 Resolution is to get a new phone. So what smartphone I should get for 2011?

I am thinking on finally getting one. Currently My Cellphone is a old NOKIA phone
its one of these styles but much older and useless!
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With it my AT&T plans is a GO plan, Pre paid minutes that I can use them up whenever I use it. Its ok Service for now since i never use to call anyone or what not.

So I really have no clue on what to get for 2011. I really want a cool smart phone, I dont know what to get HDTC? Iphone? Nexus One? etc etc

what are great plans?
Give me some reviews and opinions. So far I know iPhones are easy to navigate and work well, Nexus One phone and other droids are good too but more tricky to use but im sure they have some advantages with Flash support and what not.

so what to get?
 
In my opinion, I think that you are much better off not getting an iPhone. Although I have not got one, I have searched the internet for hours and decided that I really don't like Apple. I'm not going to point out many bad things, because I want to tell you about the good smart phones. Anyway, here is why you should not get an iPhone:

- Price. It costs £499 for an 16gb iPhone. That is way way way to high for a phone! (By the way it's $599 in the USA, but that means you get it cheaper than we do, but still...) It's the reason they are able to place links on special websites, and have all of this "amazing" advertisement because they are so expensive (like a Mac or the iPad too!). You could buy an amazing desktop PC for the same price! Which brings me onto features.
- Features. Yes, it has a lot of features, but a lot of these features can be found working better on other phones. Such as, the camera. Picture camera and video camera, you can find cheaper phones with better cameras. The video might be HD, but other phones can record smoother video, and better looking video. But then again, it's Apple's first time at video recording in HD (On the iPhone) *roll eyes*... Another example is about the "App Store", where you can buy games and programs for your iPhone. Guess what, if the iPhone didn't have this in the first place, it probably wouldn't have sold very well. Without the app store, the iPhone is barely anything, apart from a screen with a camera (well, there is also the inside one, for looking at yourself). Also, the browser doesn't have support for flash. This is terrible if you want to play a flash game or view a website with an in-built video (not an embed for YouTube, as the iPhone can play YouTube videos) on it's site. It is just a necessity these days to have flash. If I didn't have Flash on my laptop I'd get very annoyed about what I can't do. Some website are even completely flash based!

Anyway, ramble over, here are my thoughts for recommendations:
Since I am from the UK and you are from the USA I can't be sure if you have different phones than we do (just like you have different game covers to us), and also the price. But if you do have the same phones, I can recommend getting the HTC Desire or the Samsung Galaxy S. These are both amazing phones, and I wish I could have either one of them. If you are on a lower budget (like myself), then I would recommend a Samsung Wave (I almost bought one of these, the screen is amazing, the first of it's kind) or a HTC Wildfire. Isn't it strange how they're both HTC and Samsung...

Also you need to take consideration for the operating system it runs on. In your post you say "droids" are more tricky to use, but this is not the case. You can place "widgets" on a home screen (aka. "Standby" screen) which sometimes are shortcuts to your favourite apps, or some are calenders, or clocks, or things like Facebook and Twitter. You have a simple button at the bottom of the screen leading you to your dialpad to make a call, a button to go to the menu with the list of all your installed apps and built-in features like the camera, and a button to add widgets. It really is a breeze to use Android phones, but it really depends on what hardware you're using.
A phone like the LG Optimus (the plain old Optimus, not the Optimus "One") is quite bad because it's screen is resistive, which means you can't have multitouch, and it's quite slow because of it's processor. This is an example of a bad android phone, although almost every HTC phone with Android is a good phone, because it uses good hardware to power it.
You also have Windows Phone 7. Windows Phone 7 is a Microsoft Windows powered phone. It doesn't actually have Windows 7 installed on it, but to get an idea of what it really is Wikipedia is a good place to go.
Don't forget about the Blackberry. The Blackberry is mainly used for business people.
There are some links at the bottom for more detail on each of them, so if you think I've left one out, it's probably at the bottom, linking to Wikipedia :)

I hope I have taught you a lot and if there is anything you need to know about phones, just ask. Although I have told you that iPhones are bad, it really doesn't stop you buying one, but you will not have much money afterwards.
It is just my opinion, so please, if anyone else is reading this and is offended, I don't know why you are, because I am just stating my thoughts (although the specifications were true, such as the price and the video quality) on it, I'm not saying anyone who has one is bad, but just the phone itself.

Here is a list of websites to get your thoughts rolling on smart phones:
http://gsmarena.com
http://phonearena.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_OS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bada_(operating_system)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebOS
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_operating_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone
Please tell me if some of these links don't work

(Wow, this is quite a long thread...)
 
So far I know iPHone is king at touch screen and it's smoothness. As well it's ease of use and decent battery life. Front facing cam is good to. I just found out about Nexus S phone to come out soon with fastest processor and many good features like talk chat and free navigation , so I wanna see a review for that. I know many htc phones have very crappy jerky web scrolling and zoom experience. So far I still have bit more of time to see wahats a great phone.
 
The Nexus S seems quite pricey and seeing as the original was very poorly received I would definitely hold out for some reviews. I would go for one of Sony Ericsson's XPERIA offerings, you know you'll get a decent camera and good UI with all that Android Timescape stuff they have done. You could also look into Windows Phone 7 offerings but its unclear as to how well that OS will do in the long run. As for the iPhone I would hold out for the inevitable revision to fix the faulty aerial.

Robin.
 
The Nexus S seems quite pricey and seeing as the original was very poorly received I would definitely hold out for some reviews. I would go for one of Sony Ericsson's XPERIA offerings, you know you'll get a decent camera and good UI with all that Android Timescape stuff they have done. You could also look into Windows Phone 7 offerings but its unclear as to how well that OS will do in the long run. As for the iPhone I would hold out for the inevitable revision to fix the faulty aerial.

Robin.

WP7 doesn't have a lot of features that are becoming the standard, that is my biggest complaint about it.

That aside, the issue with the Nexus One was mostly thanks to how Google handled its distribution, making it a huge headache to try one out before committing to a rather expensive smart phone.

As for the iPhone - the screen feels small by today's standard, and while it is quite slick, there is a lot it is still missing. And being forced to use iTunes for everything is a massive headache.
 
My 0.02 is stay away from Nokia. I have a 5110 expressmusic and the software is infuriating, despite 4 firmware updates. Have to reboot it at least twice a week.

I would suggest the Samsung Galaxy S. Looks like an iphone which is neither here nor there, but is Android and apparently has a display to rival HTC.
 
As always, i'll clearly point towards the iPhone 4.

Of course it has weaknesses, but when it comes to getting things done, in as quick and easy fashion as possible, the iPhone consistantly wipes the floor with competition.

It is highly priced, but it still sells millions of units at that price, which proves it has to be worth it.

The iPhone also has one of the highest resale % values on the market, it wasn't until i sold my iPhone 3G did i realise i should take that into consideration when buying a new phone.
 
I have BlackBerry Torch (my work phone) and iPhone 3GS 16GB.

Best of both worlds in my opinion.
 
Of course it has weaknesses, but when it comes to getting things done, in as quick and easy fashion as possible, the iPhone consistantly wipes the floor with competition.

This, I must say, is an illusion. The iPhone really doesn't out perform any other phone, in any particular area, from media to business.
 
This, I must say, is an illusion. The iPhone really doesn't out perform any other phone, in any particular area, from media to business.

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Compared to my phone (HTC G2), the iphone has a better camera. That's the only category it wins, especially software where Android wipes the floor with iPhone OS. For example, when I walk through my front door, any photos or mp3s that I've gotten with my phone that day are already sitting on my computer hard disk - wirelessly, invisibly transferred without any action from me. And vice-versa too. Last time I checked, iPhone was nowhere near being able to do that.

iPhone
- Wiresless automatic syncing? Nope
- Widgets? Nope (wth, this is a deal breaker by itself)
- Latitude? Nope
- Proper multitasking? Nope
- Wireless, web-based contacts? Nope
- Slide-out keyboard? Nope
- Any app that does things better than Apple? Nope.

It's pointless to defend iPhone - especailly as "Fashionable", which I hear a lot - like people can tell or care what smartphone you're using.
 
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Compared to my phone (HTC G2), the iphone has a better camera. That's the only category it wins, especially software where Android wipes the floor with iPhone OS. For example, when I walk through my front door, any photos or mp3s that I've gotten with my phone that day are already sitting on my computer hard disk - wirelessly, invisibly transferred without any action from me. And vice-versa too. Last time I checked, iPhone was nowhere near being able to do that.

iPhone
- Wiresless automatic syncing? Nope
- Widgets? Nope (wth, this is a deal breaker by itself)
- Latitude? Nope
- Proper multitasking? Nope
- Wireless, web-based contacts? Nope
- Slide-out keyboard? Nope
- Any app that does things better than Apple? Nope.

It's pointless to defend iPhone - especailly as "Fashionable", which I hear a lot - like people can tell or care what smartphone you're using.

Just because a device becomes fashionable, doesn't make it technologically inferior. People do notice if you're using an iPhone 4, personally i would rather they didn't.

So you don't mention form factor, battery life, screen quality, ease-of-navigation in your comparison. Nor do you mention the thousands of real life useful apps created by many of the big organisations we use everyday.

Remind me, what app on the android can edit videos as quick and easy as iMovie?

-Wireless automatic syncing, you're right, its not yet available on the iPhone. Apparently you can do this via jailbreak, but for me personally, i don't need my desktop clogged up with every picture i've ever taken, 32gb on the iPhone takes a long time to fill.
-Widgets? If you want widgets jailbreak the phone. I added widgets and then realised it was just as quick to load the app, so i got rid of them.
-Latitude: Check the news/app store, its available for iPhone i believe.
-Proper multitasking : The iPhone multitasks perfectly, give me an example of what you use multitasking for that can't be done on the iPhone 4. I manage to stream my ipod through the car radio, run tomtom, make and recieve calls and still can quickly bring up google maps near enough instantly.
- Wireless web based syncs: Ever heard of mobileme?
- Slide out keyboard : The whole point of a touchscreen keyboard is that it works. If you need a physical keyboard then the device has failed, and for those really bothered, you can connect small bluetooth keyboard to the iPhone if you want. Or get a case with a built in keyboard.

I'm happy to accept the iPhone has limitations, but i stick by my comment, when it comes to getting things done, i haven't witnessed anything simpler/slicker/more consistant than the iPhone 4.
 
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The iPhone doesn't actually multi-task though. It simply suspends the process in a freeze state till you ask to use it again. It isn't multi tasking.

And having to jailbreak a device to get relatively standard features is kind of silly.

I'm sorry, but the iPhone isn't really that great anymore. Most everyone I know that has spent real time with an Android phone (or Rim) has just come away not wanting their iPhone anymore.

And the slide out keyboard is still a huge thing for most. I don't like the touch screen on the iPhone much either, it is small and feels toy like. More so when I have to type on it; absolutely primitive compared to Swype and the options on Android.
 
The iPhone doesn't actually multi-task though. It simply suspends the process in a freeze state till you ask to use it again. It isn't multi tasking.

And having to jailbreak a device to get relatively standard features is kind of silly.

I'm sorry, but the iPhone isn't really that great anymore. Most everyone I know that has spent real time with an Android phone (or Rim) has just come away not wanting their iPhone anymore.

And the slide out keyboard is still a huge thing for most. I don't like the touch screen on the iPhone much either, it is small and feels toy like. More so when I have to type on it; absolutely primitive compared to Swype and the options on Android.

It doesn't multi-task in the way you may expect a computer too, but it does multitask. My iPhone plays music, whilst navigating and making calls. No matter what you call it, it is doing mulitple tasks at the same time. If you can give me an example of what popular multitasking you do on your phone, that i can't, then your argument stands.

Jailbreaking an iPhone is really little different than installing a custom OS on any android phone, and probably easier. Its a small step that keeps the modders more open access, and keeps the less advanced users safer.

As for the calling out the iPhone 4 screen as feeling like a toy, that is a first. I have yet to meet anyone who would call a glass covered screen, with exceptional reaction and smoothness a toy.

As for people prefaring other phones, sure that is understandable for the minority. The truth is though that millions of people have bought iPhone 4's and very few have returned them, [i specifically remember a figure of 1.77%]. The competition obviously isn't that good.

As for the slide out keyboard, it isn't an issue for the majority. That's just made up rubbish. I understand the iPhone doesn't have the swype keyboard, and it does look quite cool, but in reality the iPhone 4 screen is that responsive and accurate, that the keyboard built in is perfectly fine.

If you're going to make the iPhone 4 to be a poor/bad device, research first. I've no problem pointing out the flaws of the device, but don't start making uneducated statements about a device you are clearly not familiar.
 
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I'm sorry, but the iPhone isn't really that great anymore. Most everyone I know that has spent real time with an Android phone (or Rim) has just come away not wanting their iPhone anymore.

My friend had an HTC HD2 and kept bashing the iPhone until he actually got an iPhone 4 and became an iPhone fanboy.

Many people who use Android are IPhone haters, and many iPhone users think Android is nowhere their iPhones. I am not saying you are one of those, mind you, but the pure bashing between these 2 sometimes get on my nerves.

As for me, I got a 3GS iPhone for my birthday and I absolutely love it. I am not interested in any fancy widgetery, wireless directly upon your hard-drive stuff, so I don't really care what it's limited to. After 6 months I've discovered I don't use anything else than calling people, messaging people and using the iPod function on it. So for me, the iPhone is an incredibly easy and the perfect phone-and-iPod-in-one machine for me. Sure, I would like to try out an HTC as the Desire looks quite nice, but why would I when the iPhone's doing the things I do most with a phone already perfectly?

As for the screen: I think it may have something to do with a protection applied to it. When I got mine there was no protection layer on the screen and the screen felt amazing. But with my plastic protection layer on it it feels plastic-ish. I guess it just depends on what kind of protection is applied to it. My dad has some kind of fancy, special made by Apple protection layer on his and his screen feels way better than mine.
 
As for the screen: I think it may have something to do with a protection applied to it. When I got mine there was no protection layer on the screen and the screen felt amazing. But with my plastic protection layer on it it feels plastic-ish. I guess it just depends on what kind of protection is applied to it. My dad has some kind of fancy, special made by Apple protection layer on his and his screen feels way better than mine.

I would definately recommend the Zagg incredishield. Expensive screen protector, but does a really good job of keeping the screen feeling good. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what your father is using.
 
It doesn't multi-task in the way you may expect a computer too, but it does multitask. My iPhone plays music, whilst navigating and making calls. No matter what you call it, it is doing mulitple tasks at the same time. If you can give me an example of what popular multitasking you do on your phone, that i can't, then your argument stands.

I can run a torrenting application while surfing the web while running several push notice IM programs. While listening to music. Apple still limits what programs are actually active in the background and for what time they can do things.

Jailbreaking an iPhone is really little different than installing a custom OS on any android phone, and probably easier. Its a small step that keeps the modders more open access, and keeps the less advanced users safer.

Jailbreaking an iPhone use to be a pain in the ass. How do I know? I use to do it for friends, unlocking phones for different carriers, etc. It is a bit easier now but not nearly as straight forward as installing other OS versions on an Android device. Plus you can have multi-boot options so I can change what OS I am running with out a full reinstall of the ROM.

As for the calling out the iPhone 4 screen as feeling like a toy, that is a first. I have yet to meet anyone who would call a glass covered screen, with exceptional reaction and smoothness a toy.

It is small. And my EVO 4G responds just as smoothly, and in some cases, there is no lag from the hardware not being able to keep up.

As for people prefaring other phones, sure that is understandable for the minority. The truth is though that millions of people have bought iPhone 4's and very few have returned them, [i specifically remember a figure of 1.77%]. The competition obviously isn't that good.

So wait, your argument is this - the iPhone is clearly better than anything else on the market because it sells more than Android phones? Wow, by that logic, a GM product must be superior to a Benz or BMW because it is more popular.

Apple has an incredibly marketing program. People buy their products because they don't think there is really an option. The iPod series is the perfect example, where other companies have built better devices, often cheaper with superior audio quality, format support, and no need for management software like iTunes. The issue is people get hung on the marketing machine that is Apple, as it seems you have as well.

As for the slide out keyboard, it isn't an issue for the majority. That's just made up rubbish. I understand the iPhone doesn't have the swype keyboard, and it does look quite cool, but in reality the iPhone 4 screen is that responsive and accurate, that the keyboard built in is perfectly fine.

I've known dozens of peolpe that refrained from getting a more modern touch screen phone due to the lack of a physical keyboard. Thus why the Motorola Droid was received fairly well because it still had an actual keyboard. And my brother has continued to use Blackberries because of the physical keyboard.

As for the soft keyboard on the iPhone, it is quite good but is small by most standards and lacks a lot of features you can find on an Android phone. And I must ask if you've ever used Swype, because everyone that has an iPhone that has used Swype wishes they had it, in my experience.

If you're going to make the iPhone 4 to be a poor/bad device, research first. I've no problem pointing out the flaws of the device, but don't start making uneducated statements about a device you are clearly not familiar.

If you are going to say I am making uneducated statements about a product I am rather familar with, I'd advise you to follow your own advice. Using conditional arguments and statements that are clearly mis-informed is quite hilarious when you try to call me out on it. Learn to frame an argument before playing this game.

My friend had an HTC HD2 and kept bashing the iPhone until he actually got an iPhone 4 and became an iPhone fanboy.

Many people who use Android are IPhone haters, and many iPhone users think Android is nowhere their iPhones. I am not saying you are one of those, mind you, but the pure bashing between these 2 sometimes get on my nerves.

The HD2 runs Windows Mobile 6.5, which is a whole different beast from Android, and extremely dated as far as phone OS's go. It would be like saying OS X is better than Windows, when comparing it to Windows 3.1.

That aside, I've used a variety of mobile operating systems extensively, hacked them, and so on. I must say Apple's entire setup is a large pain in the ass, and iTunes is probably the worst software on earth for managing a phone. I've no need to install any software for my EVO; it has drag and drop support and syncs with Google Calendar and so on. And then updating a Jailbroken iPhone is a hassle as well.

I'm not saying that iOS is terrible, and it is certainly better than WP7 and the older WinMo operating systems. However, it is insanely restricted, even when jailbroken, compared to an Android device, and just is made to be user friendly as the expense of options. Android is certainly more geared towards power users and has a vast array of options out of the box and for even advanced users.

As for the Android and iPhone hate, I didn't really start that this time around. irnbrutwinturbo came in here with his "iPhone is better than everything by leaps and bounds" statement and then attempted to support it with a nearly baseless argument that seems to hinge on "well, it sells more, thus it must be vastly superior."
 
* Full Disclosure: I spend a lot of time reading about cell phones, and go out to look at them frequently. I have had sprint for nearly five years now, and prefer that network to most others that are available. I was an early adopter on the Palm Pre, and was with the Samsung Epic 4G as well *


Smart phones in general really come down to two or three important factors:

1. How much money you want to spend on the phone itself
2. How much you are willing to pay on a contract
3. Whether or not you want a 4G WiMax or LTE product NOW or are willing to wait

Speaking only to #1, you're looking at $200 almost anywhere you go. You can spend a lot less and get something fairly decent, the Palm Pixi comes to mind as a decent starter phone on Sprint or Verizon. There are some low-level, older HTC and Samsung Android headsets that can be had right around $100, and assuming they'll be pushing updates on the phones, the only limitation would be the hardware. If you're just venturing into the smartphone waters, again, not a terrible option.

Stepping up into the heavy-hitters, it is really a three-way race between the iPhone 4 over on AT&T, the Android twins of the Epic 4G and Evo at Sprint, and the Nexus S over at T-Mobile. All of them sit around the $200/250 mark, and spending anything more than that is pretty outlandish. These are arguably the best phones you can get right now, regardless of what OS you prefer. That being said... There are some things coming down the pipe that may be worth waiting for. Still...

How much money do you really want to spend month-to-month? For a smartphone, you need to take into consideration not only the voice and text plans, but the data as well. The AT&T and Verizon voice and data plans are absolutely outrageous in my mind, and unless you are getting in on some kind of employer-backed deal or have a kind of loophole to get you a lower price, you're going to be spending more than $100 a month to get a comparable plan to what is offered at Sprint or T-Mobile. My Sprint plan, for example, is $69.99 a month plus a $10 Unlimited Data package that is required for 4G-capable phones. But, I am getting 450 minutes a month (free calling to any phone on any carrier), unlimited text messages, and unlimited data anywhere in the country. T-Mobile gets crazy and will let you go almost entirely without minutes, and then add on the texts and data if you choose. It all depends on what you want over there.

As of now, Sprint and T-Mobile are the only mobile providers to offer 4G networks. It isn't offered everywhere, so make sure you check if you have it in the first place if you're willing to pay for it. That being said, 4G is rather pleasant if you do. I don't use it frequently on my Epic, but it is nice being able to check up on things quickly, without any drama. Verizon will be adding their LTE network early next year, which may be worth the wait if they will offer it in your area.

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But YSSMAN, What About the iPhone4?

I'd say skip it. I was very impressed with the hardware and software when it first showed up back in 2006/2007, but it has not aged well. The hardware itself for the iPhone4 is pretty decent, the battery life is impressive, the Retina Display is crisp and sharp, and it is probably the best camera you can get on a phone to date. What cripples the iPhone is a combination of the AT&T network and the increasingly bloated iOS. We're still talking about a phone that requires you to hook it into iTunes to manage anything, including updates (that you have to pay for), that blocks a significant portion of user-generated content as well as stuff from legitimate organizations (like Google) because it does not fit their ideals of what should be on their phone. It is a very close-ended platform that is successful because of it's clean design and clever marketing. Really, that's it.

Soooo... Android Then?

It would be my choice, but it is not for everyone. The struggle here is that while Android is open, easily customizable, snappy and generally amazing... There is still a fairly significant learning curve to go with it if you are not already accustomed to Android. Furthermore, we have the issue where no two Android setups are quite exactly the same. Each of the phone manufacturers have their own way of showing off an Android handset, Samsung, HTC, Motorola and many others all have their own blankets over the same Android bed. The only "pure" Android products come straight out of Google, and that would be the Nexus products. So, you'll get Gingerbread first and that is a major plus... But, you also have to deal with the raw edge of Android.

What About Blackberry?

Have you actually used a Blackberry? I don't even know if you can call them smartphones anymore, it's really a different ball game when you look at RIM products. The Torch is interesting, and seems like a halfway decent product, but in general the RIM phones lag pretty far behind iOS and Android in terms of overall functionality and performance.

The "Outsiders"

I think the biggest secret in the smartphone world is what HP/Palm have on their hands when it comes to their WebOS handsets. The Pre was a product that was way ahead of it's time, but ultimately fell flat due to poor marketing and a total lack of support from Palm itself. Being bought out by HP and having them put WebOS2.0 in almost everything should liven things up, particularly when the Pre2.0 is apparently on track for the spring. As an early adopter for the Pre and WebOS, I am a bit biased, but of all the OSes out there, I feel like it was the best put together out of the gate, and I am very excited to see what they have done for the second version. If you have the ability to wait, I would consider doing so for the Pre2.0...

Windows Mobile 7 is a platform that I haven't had a lot of experience with. My understanding is that it is a pretty solid platform, and goes leaps and bounds ahead of it's predecessors in terms of being competitive with iOS and Android. The hardware is there with the new phones, especially those that have showed up on AT&T already, and I would consider them to be a reasonable alternative to the iPhone4. They, however, would not be my ultimate choice by days end.



TL;DR - AT&T charges far too much for the bloated iPhone4, it is a waste of time. WebOS2.0 is worth waiting for if you can, Windows Mobile 7 is decent if you need something immediately. Otherwise, go for an Android product on Sprint or T-Mobile. It is the best combination of price and performance nationwide.
 
Bought an iPhone 4 back in September and i absolutely love it and would recommend it to anyone

I feel the build quality is second to none and is overall a fantastic package, maybe there are better phones out there but the iPhone is definitely a very complete and worthy package

Luke
 
I love my Nexus One but I would not recommend it to everyone. The clientele for this phone is just not the same as the iPhone.

iPhone = simple but limited
Android = Possibilities but more complicated
Palm OS = Great software bad harware
Nokia = Last decades phone
RIM = All business and no joy

That's the way I see it. (Just my opinion, not a judgment on your choice of phones!!). I have had a Pre, Bold 9700 & now my Nexus One.
 
So far I am tilting bit more on iPhone 4, It's more limited, but I won't customize my iPhone as my computer. All I will use it for is browse internet, email, facebook, etc, and yeah call and text. Google maps is good too. I kinda don't need the extra customobility the android systems have. But iPhone is simply amazing with web scrolling and zooming.

But, at the same time Nexus S will come with Navigation and few extra stuff that will come in handy to me. If only they fix the web browsing experience and zoom, if they make the whole experience smoother I might consider it over iPhone. Lets wait for reviews.


I think I don't want a phone with slide out keyboard. I want everything on screen. I hear Flash 10.1 is good but not as smooth in some cases, as well I dont need it since its only waist of battery power, but always nice addition for some websites, (does Live Leak work on 10.1?)

About 4G speeds, no thanks, it will drain my battery faster then ever. 3G is plenty.
 
Iphone is pretty much the way to go. Perhaps in a few years the other manufacturers will have matched the functionality of the OS.

I just feel all the other touch screen phones have poorer recognition of swipes etc.
 
Keep in mind any GPS equipped Android phone has navigation. I've used my EVO 4G numerous times for getting around.

Also, with the iPhone, you get AT&T, which is comparable to getting Herpes. My room mate runs into his data cap all the time, not to mention the dropped calls and service issues.

As for browsing, it is super smooth on my EVO as well, and there are an array of browser options (I'm using Dolphin HD at the moment) so getting an experience that you want isn't too tricky. I've honestly not seen an iPhone perform web surfing smoother, and certainly doesn't have flash support (which is quite handy at times)
 
Something came to my Subscription today .





So far my Decision,

Nexus S. But iPhone 4 is not that behind.

Yeah in the video you can see Apple has better, smoother pinch to zoom but Nexus S is way better then other HTC phones.

Im going to create a poll.




So far, Nexus S plan with T-mobile


Monthly Charges * $81.98
T-Mobile - Even More Individual Talk + Text - 500 $49.99
With new 2-year contract
Plan Add-Ons for Google - Nexus S Mobile Phone - Black (T-Mobile)
4G Web Access - Unlimited $30.00
Visual Voice Mail $0.00
Detailed Billing Statement $1.99
One-Time Charges * $35.00
Maximum Activation Fee Learn more $35.00

81 bucks is not too bad, unlimited WEB at 4 G speed, Can I turn on 3G from time to time to save battery life?
As well I put on cheapest Talk + Text 500,


500 Whenever Minutes; unlimited domestic messages; unlimited T-Mobile to T-Mobile calling; unlimited nights and weekends; free domestic long distance; no digital roaming charges in U.S.; 2-year contract; unlimited Web access for additional $30 per month

So that means I have 500 minutes of talk time a month and free Messaging? If I message on facebook lets say, does that count? Email? Text?




Here is my Iphone 4 plan


450 minutes$39.99/mo
2GB$25.00/mo
1500 messages$15.00/mo
Plan Total:$79.99/mo






So both are similar pay, but T-Mobile gives me 4G with unlimited.. iPhone 4 is 3G with limited 2 GB..





Also if anyone knows if any of the two plans will work in Mexico? I visit the country quite a bit, but end result wont stop me from buying any of the two phones.
 
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Just because a device becomes fashionable, doesn't make it technologically inferior.

It isn't fashionable. Nobody notices anything besides the fact that you have a smartphone.

So you don't mention form factor, battery life, screen quality, ease-of-navigation in your comparison. Nor do you mention the thousands of real life useful apps created by many of the big organisations we use everyday.

That's because iphone has none of those as an advantage.

Remind me, what app on the android can edit videos as quick and easy as iMovie?

I'll let you know when I ever investigate that as a feature I want from my phone. I have no idea what android or iphone can or cannot do in that regard. I've never considered editing videos as an important feature.

-Wireless automatic syncing, you're right, its not yet available on the iPhone. Apparently you can do this via jailbreak, but for me personally, i don't need my desktop clogged up with every picture i've ever taken, 32gb on the iPhone takes a long time to fill.

Jailbreak is a joke. I can root my phone too - nobody wants to have to do that.

-Widgets? If you want widgets jailbreak the phone. I added widgets and then realised it was just as quick to load the app, so i got rid of them.

The whole point of a widget is to not load the app. It's so that you can look at your phone and see in a glance what you want to see. I never load a weather app, for example, because I have it on my home screen constantly updating. I don't load very many apps, because they sit there waiting for me to interact without loading them. This is the difference between a phone that multitasks and a phone that doesn't. It's ABSURD not to multitask something as simple as an updating weather app.

-Latitude: Check the news/app store, its available for iPhone i believe.

Became available AFTER my post but before yours.

-Proper multitasking : The iPhone multitasks perfectly, give me an example of what you use multitasking for that can't be done on the iPhone 4.

Widgets.

- Slide out keyboard : The whole point of a touchscreen keyboard is that it works. If you need a physical keyboard then the device has failed, and for those really bothered, you can connect small bluetooth keyboard to the iPhone if you want. Or get a case with a built in keyboard.

I have two software keyboards, one of which is better than that available on iphone, and I still prefer the slide-out keyboard for certain kinds of typing. If slide-out keyboards sucked so much, I wouldn't be telling you how awesome it is.


It doesn't multi-task in the way you may expect a computer too, but it does multitask.

Sometimes. But not most of the time. The reason iphone didn't have latitude was because of multitasking. I'm sure it got some sort of special permission to get around that - but latitude is an example of the kinds of programs that iphone can't do without serious help because of the backward-thinking no-multitasking approach that apple has adopted (this isn't the first time they've done that either).

Widgets alone should be a dealbreaker for iphone. I can set my phone up just like an iphone (only better, because I can have more control over even just the huge-list-of-apps screens). I don't choose to. Nobody that has an android phone chooses to set up their android phone like iphone - even though all of them could. This is because the iphone interface sucks by comparison.
 


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I am a month away from getting a new SMART phone (my first).
and so I need your help and suggestions, because i have no clue as to what is good and not good out there, what is reliable or not.

Here are my requirements, in order to help you narrow down the choice
and to match with my desires:


My contract with Tmobile is almost up. I would like to stay with Tmobile because of the free minutes with my friends and family (in network)
I am open to have a brand new contract.

I do NOT want to have an iphone like everyone else.
I do NOT want to have a phone based on Microsoft OS.

I would like to have a phone that is rugged (because i tend to take my phone with me when i fix my car (greasy hands and dropping it down).
I would like to have a phone with bright flashlight integrated.
I would like to have decent/great photo capabilities from the phone.
(i love taking pictures and random ones throughout the day)

I rarely text... once in a while... (a few times a week only)
I would like the phone to have speaker to conference call...
(so that everyone in the supermarket can listen to my calls, j/k)


I have been using Sony phones for the past few years... but they are so unreliable... my K850i died on me and could never be revived! :(
( i like that phone but man it's just so random! )
so i am temporarely using one of those candy bar phones from last century (that only does call and nothing else)


The reason i want to have a smart phone now is:
1) because everyone seem to have one
2) internet access and maps
3) ... that's it i guess...
4) touch screen

SO WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LATEST BEST PHONES ON THE MARKET...

E3 happened recently... did anything good come out of that?
I want to have something that is no more than a year old on market...
Technology goes by so fast... i want my phone not to be out of date within a year or so... Thanks ;)


I hope you guys/girls/gals can show me a few options... my girlfriends (with about the same requirements as me) is also looking for a smart phone.

 
I recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S.

Over here it was for £20 a month and an extra £5 for insurance.


Android OS is the way forward in my opinion. Literally the second I had figured out the Music Player to the phone, I put my iPod up on Gumtree with it lol
 

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