...so far been pretty much of a disaster - Blair; Military Win Impossible - Kissinger

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http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/11/18/061118191126.gfcbmuyt.html

Blair 'disaster' admission over Iraq a 'slip of the tongue': official
Nov 18 2:13 PM US/Eastern



Downing Street moved swiftly to play down an apparent admission by British Prime Minister Tony Blair that the invasion of Iraq had been a "disaster," labelling his comments a "slip of the tongue."

In an interview Friday on Al-Jazeera's new English-language channel, broadcaster Sir David Frost suggested that the 2003 US-led and British-backed invasion had "so far been pretty much of a disaster."

"It has," Blair replied, before adding quickly: "But you see, what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq? It's not difficult because of some accident in planning.

"It's difficult because there's a deliberate strategy... to create a situation in which the will of the majority for peace is displaced by the will of the minority for war."

But during Blair's trip to Pakistan for talks with President Pervez Musharraf, the prime minister's official spokesman told reporters: "It was a straightforward slip of the tongue... sometimes he does this when he's half-listening to the question and wants to get on and respond."

The spokesman insisted that Blair did not think Iraq was a disaster.

"But what he does acknowledge is that there are difficulties and he doesn't in any way try to downplay those difficulties," he added.

Earlier, another Downing Street spokesman told AFP that Blair "does not use the word disaster."

Responding to the comments, Sir Menzies Campbell, leader of the Liberal Democrats, Britain's third-biggest political party, lambasted the government over its record in Iraq and demanded that Blair say sorry.

"If the prime minister accepts that it is a 'disaster' then surely parliament and the British people, who were given a flawed prospectus, are entitled to an apology," he said.

A spokesperson for the main opposition Conservatives added that the remarks highlighted the need for an inquiry into how Britain joined the war in Iraq.

During the interview, Blair also urged Syria and Iran to become partners in the search for peace in the Middle East -- or face isolation on the world stage.

His comments were broadcast on the same day as it was reported that one of his most loyal ministers had branded Iraq his "biggest mistake in foreign affairs."

Industry minister Margaret Hodge also criticized his "moral imperialism" in foreign policy at a private dinner, north London weekly newspaper The Islington Tribune said.

The US-led coalition is currently examining its strategy in Iraq in the wake of disastrous mid-term election results for George W. Bush's Republicans and amid mounting violence.

The Iraq invasion has so far claimed the lives of 125 British soldiers, while 2,859 US soldiers have died, according to a recent AFP count based on Pentagon figures.

Security forces were hunting for two Westerners Saturday who were kidnapped in southern Iraq after an American hostage was found dead and two others rescued.

Britain's finance minister Gordon Brown, widely tipped to take over from Blair as the next prime minister, was in Basra in southern Iraq on Saturday to visit British troops and hold talks with local leaders.

Chancellor of the Exchequer Brown has regularly said that withdrawing troops was not on the short-term agenda.

In other news... Kissinger: Iraq Military Win Impossible

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/19/AR2006111900287_pf.html

Kissinger: Iraq Military Win Impossible

By TARIQ PANJA
The Associated Press
Sunday, November 19, 2006; 4:45 PM

LONDON -- Military victory is no longer possible in Iraq, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger said in a television interview broadcast Sunday.

Kissinger presented a bleak vision of Iraq, saying the U.S. government must enter into dialogue with Iraq's regional neighbors _ including Iran _ if progress is to be made in the region.

"If you mean by 'military victory' an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don't believe that is possible," he told the British Broadcasting Corp.

But Kissinger, an architect of the Vietnam war who has advised President Bush about Iraq, warned against a rapid withdrawal of coalition troops, saying it could destabilize Iraq's neighbors and cause a long-lasting conflict.

"A dramatic collapse of Iraq _ whatever we think about how the situation was created _ would have disastrous consequences for which we would pay for many years and which would bring us back, one way or another, into the region," he said.

Kissinger, whose views have been sought by the Iraqi Study Group, led by former Secretary of State James Baker III, called for an international conference bringing together the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, Iraq's neighbors _ including Iran _ and regional powers like India and Pakistan to work out a way forward for the region.

"I think we have to redefine the course, but I don't think that the alternative is between military victory, as defined previously, or total withdrawal," he said.
© 2006 The Associated Press
 
Oh geez, another "all headline, no story" from the Mainstream Media. David Frost of Al-Jazeera Terrorist Propaganda Network said the quote: "So far been pretty much of a disaster", not Blair himself. Blair didn't say that Iraq was a mistake or mishandled or that we are going to fail. This is what the Mainstream Media desperately wants to hear and tried to suggest through its coverage.
 
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And the last time Kissinger was right about a war? Vietnam?

...Oh yeah...
 
And the last time Kissinger was right about a war? Vietnam?

...Oh yeah...
I know. That's why I'd assume Kissinger would be the one to go to to ask for how to lead to failure. No better way to lose than to ask a loser.
 
I know. That's why I'd assume Kissinger would be the one to go to to ask for how to lead to failure. No better way to lose than to ask a loser.


He's still alive ? shame his brain crapped out on him .


At any rate after the US defeated Saddams Army and pullrd saddam from his little hole in the ground ...the " military victory was OVER .


Since then its just been holding the crap toghether long enough for the IRAQI'S to learn how to be a Democtacy .

So all this WAR cant be one crap ? WHAT WAR ? The war the Iraqis must fight among themselves to learn to live toghether again ? Or The war the Americans must fight at home against the assmunches that insist we pack up and leave or all the other assmunches that have not supported either the Iraqi's or the US military from DAY ONE .

The only war I see is among ourselves and among the Iraqi's trying to establish a government .

Al Queda and other militant groups are using us for target practice while we "babble " about a war ...aginst WHO ? Who are we fighting a war against ? Its certainly NOT the Iraqi's Its not the Insurgents...its the foriegn fighters Iran and Syria let pour into the country..IRAN IS ACTUALLY TRAINING AND ARMING THEM BEFORE SENDING THEM OVER TO PLAY .

The Iraqi's are content with just blowing up and murdering each other ..the Shiites with Irans full support .
 
Correction:

During the interview, Frost suggested that the West's intervention in Iraq had "so far been pretty much of a disaster."

Blair replied: "It has, but you see what I say to people is why is it difficult in Iraq?..."

Blair agreed with Snow on the disaster part of the interview.
 
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