something thats really been bugging me..

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this may of been mentioned before but i have noticed that you cant change gear when the wheels are spinning... why?

if i want to change gear why cant i change gear? i have noticed you cant do donuts because the auto clutch is engaging .. basically meaning im slipping the clutch..

is there anyway to remove the autoclutch feature totally?
 
turn abs off. hit the brake and full throttle turn your wheel and let lose the brake. voila a donut.
 
no it doesnt turn it off.

i know that i can turn it off via triangle but when you watch the pedal icons as the bottom the accelerator one has a red bar behind it which is the clutch,

if you try change gear when the car wheels are spinning it wont change. (noticible from 1st to 2nd)
 
turn the abs off in the quick tune menu. then put it in 1st gear hit the brake full throttle and let go of the brake. i don't have the g25 but the dfgt. so you might put it in 1st while holding the clutch then full throttle and let go of the clutch. eighter way you have turn off the abs.


oh sorry didn't saw christhedude his post
 
why should abs have anything to do with autoclutch (im not saying your wrong, im going to try it)

but i have abs on my car and if i wanna change gear from 1st to 2nd when my wheels are spinning i can.
 
chrisr1984
why should abs have anything to do with autoclutch (im not saying your wrong, im going to try it)

but i have abs on my car and if i wanna change gear from 1st to 2nd when my wheels are spinning i can.
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if you have abs on it's almost impossible to make a donut. but it is also harder to race with abs off. so you have to make a choise. or practice alot with abs off while racing
 
we should have the option of totally disabling the autoclutch (so we could stall, or have autoclutch to stop stalling on idle only) and still beable to use the autoclutch
 
i always thought the red bar was some kind of traction control. Its active in the gravel traps (where i spend quite some time) and really F's me off how it nanny's your throttle inputs..give ME full control goddamit
 
I have no trouble doing donuts or changing gear while the wheels are spinning. I don't think I'm doing anything special. DFGT, pro physics, all aids off except ABS 1.

To change gear while the wheels are spinning I hit the paddle and it changes up. That's it. I've never had the game refuse to let me shift.

To do a donut (with ABS on, which apparently is impossible) I hold the brake and accelerator to let the revs build up before the auto-clutch kicks in, apply some steering lock and come quickly off the brake. The auto-clutch engages, the rears spin, the car turns a little at first then starts doing a donut. From there it's the usual modulation of throttle and steering to keep the donut going.

The only "trick" involved is holding the brake to let the revs build, which is what you do in an auto or many semi-autos in the real world. I don't see why ABS would make a difference and in my experience it doesn't.

Edit: Do you guys use the brake while doing a donut? I suppose if you do ABS might matter. I never use the brake while doing a donut, so perhaps that's why ABS on still works for me.
 
ABS prevent the wheels from spinning. So with ABS off the wheels will spin much easier
 
The red bar behind the white bar for the accelerator pedal graphic is the following:

The height of the red bar is the actual position of the pedal you are pushing down. As in, that is the throttle command that YOU are giving to the car.

The height of the white bar, which is always infront of the red bar, is the amount of throttle the car is permitting you to use. The red bar will show for one of 3 reasons.

1. You have traction control enabled and it is limiting the throttle to grippable levels.
2. You are on the grass/gravel and the game is limiting your throttle until you get back onto the track. This is independent of TCS.
3. You have a rolling start. Before you gain control of the car, the car has a TCS of 5, regardless of your car settings. The game gives the car max throttle before you gain control, and if it is too much for the grip levels, TCS will cut in. See reason 1.

To my knowledge, thats what plays into it.

Therefore, if you are on the track, in control of your car, and do not have any TCS active, you will never see the red bar.
 
Therefore, if you are on the track, in control of your car, and do not have any TCS active, you will never see the red bar.
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Wrong.
I drive without TCS and the red bar still shows up while shifting, it also was like that in GTHD Concept, it is the clutch.
 
G.T.Ace
Wrong.
I drive without TCS and the red bar still shows up while shifting, it also was like that in GTHD Concept, it is the clutch.
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You are correct. you will see the red bar. But looking at my logic, the red bar is not the clutch. It is simply confirming that you are still pushing the physical pedal (or button) all the way down. The game, the car, is limiting the throttle at that point, which is why there is no white bar.

In other words, the red bar is Always there. It is the white bar that is being limited. I'm no longer sure if I am answering the questions, but I'm pretty sure that it what the display mechanics are showing.
 
but what im saying is that it shouldnt be there, forget what it is or what its meant to help, i dont want it there, i want to control the car how i want not how im told.

can someone else confirm you can not change gear with manual 6speed with clutch when the wheels are spinning from 1st to 2nd.
 
Uhm i just tried it with the F40 (stopped, e-break and then throttle up for a fast start) wheels were spinning but i could shift up (driving with pad).

@Tzayad: Youre right btw. when you lift the throttle while shifting the red bar goes down
 
This thread is wierd, I drive with no TCS, ABS at 1, sequential manual shifter and I can do burnouts and donuts more than fine enough.:odd:

Edit: Oh so you guys are talking with clutch, it was done that way to stop the flat shifting people used to do which gave them a massive advantage over auto drivers, the game wasn't designed with hoons and burnouts in mind.
 
Paulie
This thread is wierd, I drive with no TCS, ABS at 1, sequential manual shifter and I can do burnouts and donuts more than fine enough.:odd:

Edit: Oh so you guys are talking with clutch, it was done that way to stop the flat shifting people used to do which gave them a massive advantage over auto drivers, the game wasn't designed with hoons and burnouts in mind.
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i dont care about burnouts, donuts or things likat that, i just want to beable to do what a car should beable to do in real life..

if that means that driving more realistically then dont penalise me for it.
 
its not real.

massive let down.

as stated WTF is with gravel trap TCS?

it's become "the real GTR pwns simulator" pffft

if eutechnyx's next sim is any good, i'm moving on.
 
chrisr1984
can someone else confirm you can not change gear with manual 6speed with clutch when the wheels are spinning from 1st to 2nd.
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I'm pretty sure this in is a thread somewhere else, but yes, in 1st if your wheels are spinning, and you're using a G25, and the clutch is activated, you can't shift to 2nd seemlessly.
 
yea im on the g25..

if im being honest it doesnt really pose a problem to me personally, its jsut knowing that i should beable to do something but cant.

i hope they fix it, that and the gravel thing
 
chrisr1984
yea im on the g25..

if im being honest it doesnt really pose a problem to me personally, its jsut knowing that i should beable to do something but cant.

i hope they fix it, that and the gravel thing
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Yeah bro, its the most annoying thing ever!! When skidding, its normally not until my 3rd attempt at slamming 2nd before it actually goes into it..... :( It gets so frustrating aye! Real Driving Simulator - Yeah Right
 

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