SS Hybriding

[spsajewski]

I feel bad for spamming the hybrid photo threads with my hybrids so I'm just starting my own thread here. I make a wide range of cars, but mostly wheelbase and track fit chassis swaps and realistic engine swaps, though I also love trying to make cars that aren't in the game. It should be noted, I'm working on GT5 version 2.11.

*Edit*- Just a little side note so I don't need to explain it. I make a lot of race car chassis swaps because the downforce values for a car are attached to the chassis. Therefore I can use racing chassis to make road cars into race cars with ingame, fully adjustable, downforce.

For all my old hybrids' videos check here: https://www.youtube.com/user/LlamaMster/videos

 

[Davoxx]

Subscribed, Really like the idea of this thread !

 

[spsajewski]

Top Class Saloons

BMW 760i '08 build

• Base car: BMW M5 '08
• 120% of original weight
• BMW Z4 M coupe 6 speed transmission swap
• McLaren F1 engine swap, the BMW sourced S70/2 engine actually closely resembles the newer BMW N73 engine found in the '08 760i, sharing updates such as 4 valves per cylinder and variable valve timing.
  • You can detune the engine to 75% via hybriding and get it closer to the 438 hp that the N73 produces in the 760i, but that limits the torque greatly. I recommend using the in game power limiter set to 68.7% with oil change.
• Stock Specs
  • 6.0L V12
  • 438 hp@4900 rpm (68.7% limiter with oil change)
  • 483 ft-lb@4700 rpm (68.7% limiter with oil change, in real life the 760i makes 444 ft-lb of torque)
  • 2226 kg
  • 488 pp

Personal notes: Out of the hundreds of hybrids I've made, this one turned out as well as the best of them. The car pulls powerfully and smoothly as expected from a large luxury saloon, it handles very well for a car of its weight, and the V12 has a great muted rumble with the stock exhaust

Finishing out my run of luxury saloons. Performance and handling wise they feel spot on. Sadly they suffer the same issue as many cars in Gran Turismo 5, vacuum cleaner sounds with stock exhaust (The Mercedes at least sounds good tuned)

Audi A8 W12 '05 build

• Base car: Audi RS 6 '02
• 117% of original weight
• Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro '03 6 speed transmission swap
• Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept '01 engine swap
• Stock Specs
  • 6.0L W12
  • 450 hp@5900 rpm (72.8% limiter with oil change)
  • 457 ft-lb@4700 rpm (72.8% limiter with oil change, in real life the A8 W12 makes 428 ft-lb of torque)
  • 2156 kg
  • 479 pp

Mercedes-Benz S65 AMG '08 build

• Base car: Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG '08
• 132% of original weight
• Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG (R230) '04 5 speed transmission swap
• Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG (R230) '04 engine swap
• Stock Specs
  • 6.0L Twin Turbo V12
  • 604 hp@4600 rpm (98.2% limiter with oil change)
  • 752 ft-lb@2500 rpm (98.2% limiter with oil change, in real life the S65 AMG makes 738 ft-lb of torque)
  • 2283 kg
  • 528 pp

 

[spsajewski]

General Early to Mid October Hybrids (10/14)
Here's a quick roundup of my hybrids from the past month.

Tom’s X540 Chaser ‘00
-Lexus Weds Sport IS350 chassis
-YellowHat YMS Supra ’05 engine (V8)
-1022 hp@8300 rpm
-662 ft-lb@7800 rpm
-redline@8800 rpm
-956 kg
-696 pp

Lexus IS 200 "Super Time Trial Car" '04
-Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM Race Car '98 chassis swap (higher downforce)
-Lexus LFA engine swap
-1162 hp@8900 rpm
-696 ft-lb@7900 rpm
-Redline@9900 rpm
-1000 kg
-718 pp

Maserati GranTurismo S '08
Peugeot 908 HDi FAP - Team Peugeot Total '10 chassis swap
Ferrari F10 '10 engine swap (Ferrari owns Maserati) 125% power
-1241 hp@18,400 rpm
-355 ft-lb@16,900 rpm
-Redline@19,400 rpm
-691 kg
-749 pp
This seriously makes all my other hybrids look tame. It's crazy fast, sticks to the track, and wails like a banshee. Completely epic, if totally unrealistic.

Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08
-Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car chassis swap
-125% original power output
-1284 hp@6800 rpm
-1088 ft-lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@7400 rpm
-788 kg
-732 pp

Honda S2000 (EU) '99 engine swap
-5% reduction in original weight
-422 hp@9100 rpm
-249 ft-lb@8900 rpm
-Redline@10,400 rpm
-1007 kg
-531 pp
Big props to TakumiFuji01 on the idea of a premium F20C S2000. Works flawlessly. She revs for days.

Lotus Esprit Turbo HC '87
-Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 chassis swap
-Lotus Esprit V8 '02 engine swap (one of the best sounding engines in the game)
-770 hp@7900 rpm
-530 ft-lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@8400 rpm
-979 kg
-678 pp
Sounds epic and the wider track looks great on this car.

Honda Accord Coupe '88
-FR conversion
-Toyota WEDSSPORT CELICA '03 chassis swap
-Spoon CIVIC TYPE R (EK) '00 engine swap
-498 hp@10,400 rpm (s'chg'd)
-251 ft-lb@10,400 rpm (s'chg'd)
-Redline@13,400 rpm
-893 pp
-600 pp (s'chg'd)
Epic 600 pp race car

Renault Avantime '02
I don't know what Top Gear was getting on about. I had no problems beating an Evo X's time around the Top Gear Test Track in a Renault Avantime... that had the drivetrain (AWD) from an R35 GTR... and the chassis from the Mazda RX-8 LM race car weighing 892 kg... and the engine from a Z34 Fairlady making 710 hp and 513 ft-lb of torque.
(For those who are wondering, the Evo X did a 1.28.2 around a lap. My Avantime, managed a 1.09.2 from standing start. )

Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro '03
-Audi R8 4.2 V8 engine swap
-Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car chassis swap
-654 hp@8400 rpm
-447 ft-lb@5900 rpm
-Redline@9400 rpm
-870kg
-662 pp

 

[Davoxx]

I love saloon !!! The Honda Accord FR conversion look awesome to drift.
Would love to see a Nissan Stagea RWD.

 

[spsajewski]

Monday Hybrids (27/10/14)

Would love to see a Nissan Stagea RWD

Nissan STAGEA 25t RS FOUR S '98
-FR conversion
-BMW 320i Touring Car '03 chassis swap
-Nissan SKYLINE GT-R Vspec II Nür (R34) '02 engine swap (150% original power)
-853 hp@8400 rpm
-692 ft-lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@9400 rpm
-924 kg
-674 pp

Without even having to adjust downforce, suspension, or anything this beast goes from drifting machine on comfort hard tires to a super touring car on racing softs.

Subaru LEGACY Touring Wagon 2.0GT '03
-Nissan FALKEN☆GT-R Race Car '04 chassis swap
-Subaru IMPREZA WRX STI '07 engine swap (175% power)
-945 hp@7400 rpm
-820 ft-lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@9400 rpm
-1132 kg
-703 pp
Some more wagon love, dominates in the rain.

 

[Davoxx]

OMG she looks so nice in midnight purple, my favorite color and the Stagea in some is a r34 ! Would love to drift it, great work mate

Can you post drift video of it if you have please, like 2-3 corners CH tires ?

 

[spsajewski]

the Stagea in some is a r34

Oh yeah, I know, I did the swap for the engine sounds.

Can you post drift video of it if you have please, like 2-3 corners CH tires ?

I can see what I can do. Not much of a drifter I'm afraid, I can just tell when a car would make a good drifter.

 

[spsajewski]

Tuesday Hybrids (28/10/14)

Nissan SKYLINE Coupe 370GT Type SP '07
-Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 chassis swap
-Nissan XANAVI NISMO GT-R '08 engine swap
-916 hp@7900 rpm
-618 ft-lb@6400 rpm
-Redline@8900 rpm
-977 kg
-698 pp

Fiat 500 1.2 8V Lounge SS '08
-Rear wheel drive conversion
-Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 chassis swap
-Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus '00 engine swap
-531 hp@7900 rpm
-383 ft-lb@6900 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-648 kg
-708 pp

Lotus Elise '96
-Chaparral 2D Race Car '67 chassis swap
-Lotus Esprit V8 '02 engine swap
-800 hp@7900 rpm
-550 ft-lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@8400 rpm
-694 kg
-732 pp

Alfa Romeo Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
-Honda ARTA NSX '00 chassis swap
-Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione '08 engine swap
-855 hp@7900 rpm
-570 ft-lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@8900 rpm
-928 kg
-700 pp

Volvo 240 GLT Estate '88 "Polestar Touring Car"
-Nissan FALKEN☆GT-R Race Car '04 chassis swap
-Volvo C30 R-Design '09 engine swap (125% power)
-646 hp@6200 rpm
-575 ft-lb@5900 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-1023 kg
-645 pp

 

[spsajewski]

We all make mistakes and my hybrids are no exception. While trying to make an Accord touring car I accidentally slammed and "extreme stanced" the heck out of it. Personally I can't stand pointless camber, but for those who love it, I figured I should share my results.

 

[spsajewski]

Wednesday Hybrids (29/10/14)

Audi R8 4.2 FSI R tronic '07
-Audi R8 LMS Race Car '09 chassis swap
-Audi R10 TDI Race Car '06 engine swap
-1177 hp@7400 rpm
-1114 ft-lb@440 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-1051 kg
-750 pp

Twin Turbo 5.5L V12 torque monster. Can light up all four tires easily.

 

[spsajewski]

Thursday Hybrids (30/10/14)

Tesla Motors Roadster '08
-Toyota 7 race car chassis (193% weight)
-200% increase in power
-569 hp@5500 rpm
-559 ft-lb@2000 rpm
-Redline@13,500 rpm
-999 kg
-617 pp

TRIAL CELICA SS-II (ZZT231) '03
-Rear wheel drive conversion
-Toyota WEDSSPORT CELICA '03 chassis swap
-Toyota Supra 2JZ-GTE engine swap
-669 hp@5000 rpm
-820 ft-lb@3800 rpm
-Redline@7300 rpm
-893 kg
-676 pp
The 2JZ is a great engine, but it sadly it sounds terrible in GT5.

Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
-Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car chassis swap
-Pagani Zonda R '09 engine swap (6.0L AMG Mercedes sourced V12)
-1096 hp@8400 rpm
-750 ft-lb@6400 rpm
-Redline@8900 rpm
-995 kg
-712 pp

 

[spsajewski]

Friday Hybrid (31/10/14)

Honda Civic Type R '08
-Mazda RX-8 Concept LM Race Car
-Honda S2000 F20C engine swap
-655 hp@9300 rpm
-388 ft-lb@8900 rpm
-Redline@10,400 rpm
-909 kg
-648 pp

 

[spsajewski]

Saturday Hybrids (1/11/14)

Mazda Atenza Sport 25Z '07
-FR conversion
-Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08 chassis swap
-RE Amemiya AsparaDrink RX7 '06 bi-rotor engine swap
-791 hp@8900 rpm
-501 ft-lb@7900 rpm
-Redline@9400 rpm
-951 kg
-672 pp

Still feeling halloween, so here's another orange and black hybrid

Lamborghini Aventador LP-700-4 '11
-Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) RM '09 chassis
-125% power
-1141 hp@9400 rpm
-761 ft-lb@6400 rpm
-Redline@9900 rpm
-887 kg
-743 pp

LMP1 Class fighting Aventador, epic racer. *edit*- Just managed an 8:07.172 on racing hards with this around the Nurburgring, Type V layout. Still could have pushed a little harder too.

Chevrolet Camaro SS '10
-Camaro SS '10 RM chassis swap (110% weight)
-2011 Chevrolet NASCAR engine swap (75% power)
-955 hp@9400 rpm
-598 ft-lb@6900 rpm
-Redline@10,400 rpm
-994 kg
-702 pp

Always nice to make a hybrid where all the swaps are within the manufacturer. Especially when they make this beast of American muscle. I may not be a NASCAR fan, but the 5.9L V8 they use is one of the best sounding engines in GT5 and when fully tuned it roars up to 10,400 rpm.

 

[spsajewski]

Sunday Hybrid (2/11/14)

Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C3) '69
-Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63 (109% weight)
-Chaparral 2J Race Car '70 engine swap (monstrous 7.6L Chevy sourced big block V8, great sound, 75% power)
-936 hp@7500 rpm
-696 ft-lb@6900 rpm
-Redline@8900 rpm
-998 kg
-671 pp

Showing some more American muscle love with another all manufacturer hybrid.

 

[spsajewski]

Formula Builds

"Formula-E" build
Formula Gran Turismo
-5 speed tranny swap
-Tesla Roadster engine swap
-270 hp@5100 rpm (92.8%)
-286 ft-lb@2000 rpm
-Redline@13,500 rpm
-888 kg
-580 pp

2014 Formula One build
Ferrari F2007
-8 speed tranny swap
-Calibra engine swap
-600 hp@10,100 rpm (91.2%)
-333 ft-lb@9400 rpm
-Redline@11,500 rpm
-691 kg
-727 pp

Worked out okay, but I wish I could replicate the ERS system and use a 160 hp boost.

 

[Epic B]

Cool.

 

[spsajewski]

Friday Hybrids (7/11/14)

My SEMA inspired Subaru BRZ
Widened stance via chassis swap, Impreza WRC engine swap, and slammed suspension.
-828 hp@5800 rpm
-945 ft-lb@3900 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-1029 kg
-704 pp

Lamborghini Gallardo LP 560-4 '08
-MR conversion
-Lister Storm V12 Race Car '99 chassis swap
-175% power increase
-1323 hp@8900 rpm
-857 ft-lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@9900 rpm
-1084 kg
-676 pp

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 '69
-BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01 chassis swap
-Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 '70 engine swap (7.4L beastly sounding V8)
-907 hp@6200 rpm
-938 ft lb@4400 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-925 kg
-706 pp

LMP1 beating Jaguar XKR Coupe '10
-Bentley Speed 8 Race Car '03 chassis swap (133% weight)
-Lister Storm V12 Race Car '99 engine swap (Jaguar sourced 7.0L V12, 125% power)
-949 hp@6900 rpm
-838 ft lb@3400 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-889 kg
-746 pp

 

[spsajewski]

Lotus Evora '09
-Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car chassis
-Lotus Esprit V8 '02 (150% power)
-915 hp@7800 rpm
-677 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@8400 rpm
-959 kg
-700 pp

 

[spsajewski]

Honda NSX Type R '02
-Honda ARTA NSX '00 chassis swap
-Honda INSIGHT LS '09 engine swap (500% power)
-785 hp@6400 rpm
-842 ft lb@2400 rpm
-Redline@7400 rpm
-951 kg
-692 pp

Great driving car and the Insight swapped engine sounds really good, believe it or not.

 

[spsajewski]

Thursday Hybrids (13/11/14)

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. SCP '99
-Mitsubishi FTO Super Touring Car chassis swap
-HKS CT230R '08 engine swap
-954 hp@8400 rpm
-691 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@9400 rpm
-808 kg
-729 pp

Now THIS is proper stance. Just a little useable camber and a great wide stance with the tires tucking just under the wheel arches. No ridiculous, useless camber.

Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI '10
-Vauxhall Astra Super Touring Car '00 (chassis swap, 121% weight)
-Subaru CUSCO DUNLOP SUBARU IMPREZA '08 (175% power)
-1014 hp@7400 rpm
-811 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-998 kg
-725 pp

Volkswagen 1200 '66
-Ford Mark IV Race Car '67 chassis swap
-Volkswagen Golf IV GTI RM '01 engine swap (75% power)
-747 hp@7500 rpm
-535 ft lb@6400 rpm
-Redline@7500 rpm
-905 kg
-671 pp

Ford Mustang Mach 1 '71
-Ford AU 2000 Falcon XR8 chassis swaps
-Ford Mark IV Race Car '67 engine swap (great rumbling 7.0L V8)
-1141 hp@6900 rpm
-977 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-1092 kg
-720 pp

Another great one manufacturer hybrid build. All the pieces come together to make a very natural feeling muscle/race car.

 

[KazaMR2]

This is a really cool thread, keep up the awesome work!

It has also inspired me to go back on GT5 to make some hybrids, could you give any tips on creating the best outcomes?

 

[spsajewski]

Personally I always keep to manufacturer engine swaps, which can include tuner and race car engines, such as the HKS engine in my Evo or the Chaparral 2J V8 in my Corvette. Other than that I usually try to keep the weight and power of my cars between 800 kg-1100 kg and 500 hp- 1200 hp. I made a list of all the race cars' chassis in GT5, which really helps me with making race cars. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MpcpKsTpOJFvEQDqzGFsi5rmC8ne7xNxSyfCuW3R3Qw/edit?usp=sharing

As far as chassis swap fitment goes, I'd say never swap a chassis that has +/- 50 mm or more in wheelbase difference.

Hope this helps you out a little. Happy hybriding!

 

[spsajewski]

Friday Hybrids (14/11/14)

Audi RS 6 Avant '08
-Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 chassis swap (121% weight)
-Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro '09 engine swap (150% power)
-1255 hp@8900 rpm
-826 ft lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@9600 rpm
-1093 kg
-744 pp

Mini COOPER S '11
-FR conversion
-Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63 chassis swap
-BMW Z4 M Coupe '08 engine swap
-534 hp@8700 rpm
-372 ft lb@6200 rpm
-Redline@9200 rpm
-994 kg
-599 pp

Makes for an epic 'Ring racer. Really easy to handle, very quick, and sounds great.

 

[JDM_ACCORDK24]

Friday Hybrids (14/11/14)

Audi RS 6 Avant '08
-Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 chassis swap (121% weight)
-Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro '09 engine swap (150% power)
-1255 hp@8900 rpm
-826 ft lb@7400 rpm
-Redline@9600 rpm
-1093 kg
-744 pp

Mini COOPER S '11
-FR conversion
-Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car '63 chassis swap
-BMW Z4 M Coupe '08 engine swap
-534 hp@8700 rpm
-372 ft lb@6200 rpm
-Redline@9200 rpm
-994 kg
-599 pp

Makes for an epic 'Ring racer. Really easy to handle, very quick, and sounds great.

Hey, you mind posting the ride height and camber angle too? I like how that RS6 sits and a few other cars you posted. Thanks

 

[spsajewski]

Hey, you mind posting the ride height and camber angle too? I like how that RS6 sits and a few other cars you posted. Thanks

I put every car on the lowest ride height. For any car I never use more than 5 degrees camber in the front and 4 in the back. Usually they fall somewhere between 2 and 3 front camber and 1 and 2 rear camber.

 

[spsajewski]

Monday Hybrids (17/11/14)

Volkswagen typ2(T1) SambaBus '62
-AWD conversion
-Ford Mark IV Race Car '67 chassis swap
-HPA Motorsports Stage II R32 engine swap (25% power)
-648 hp@7100 rpm
-556 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@8200 rpm
-850 kg
-679 pp

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
-Lexus BANDAI DIREZZA SC430 '06 chassis swap
-Mine's LANCER EVOLUTION VI '00 engine swap (125% power)
-920 hp@8400 rpm
-582 ft lb@7900 rpm
-Redline@8400 rpm
-825 kg
-728 pp

Another lethal Evo, absolutely blitzes the track. The Mine's engine has beautiful power delivery too.

Isuzu 4200R Concept '89
-Audi R8 Race Car '01 chassis
-200% power
-902 hp@6900 rpm
-829 ft lb@4900 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-746 kg
-775 pp

Have you ever really REALLY wished Isuzu had an LMP1 class race car? No? Yeah, well me neither, but if they ever do, they should make it like this, the 4.2L Lotus designed V8 sounds great and the R8 chassis makes a great racer.

Lotus Esprit V8 '02
-Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car #91 '00 chassis swap
-Isuzu 4200R Concept '89 engine swap 150% power (4.2L Lotus developed V8)
-905 hp@6900 rpm
-758 ft lb@4900 rpm
-Redline@7900 rpm
-951 kg
-714 pp

 

[spsajewski]

Tuesday Hybrids (18/11/14)
Sad to say, but this is likely one of the last, if not the last day, of hybrids I'll have. With me picking up GTA 5 for my PS4 today, and me selling my PS3 and games this weekend, this will be the last few hybrids I make.

Toyota 86 GT '12
-Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car chassis swap
-Lotus Evora '09 engine swap (3.5L Toyota 2GR-FE V6, 175% power)
-950 hp@7400 rpm
-760 ft lb@5400 rpm
-Redline@8100 rpm
-1029 kg
-704 pp

 

[JDM_ACCORDK24]

We all make mistakes and my hybrids are no exception. While trying to make an Accord touring car I accidentally slammed and "extreme stanced" the heck out of it. Personally I can't stand pointless camber, but for those who love it, I figured I should share my results.

What chassis is on that if you don't mind me asking? Thanks. Keep posting cars bro im liking them

 

[spsajewski]

What chassis is on that if you don't mind me asking? Thanks.

You know I can't remember for sure, but I think it was the Nissan Falken GT-R race car or Mercedes-Benz 190E Evo Touring Car chassis.