SR baffles me... Once again...

[daschund]

I've been trying to get back to S since the update. Sick and tired of the carnage of the B/C levels. But then I get 4-5 clean/almost clean races and go from B to A, then get one race where I fall from A to C again. Not only that, but for things that (in my judgement) are not really my fault...

Yesterday I got back to mid A, then went on the C race (which, by the way, I love the new circuit). Got slammed from behind on turn 1 and 2 (or 2 and 3 if you count the slight left at the end of the straight). Got two 5s penalties from being slammed from behind and down I go to SR C again. Bear in mind that I was racing with the Porsche, so I was always the last one to brake. If someone slammed me from behind is because they totally lost their braking point. Can't really understand how this works, but OK...

Then today I try to get the SR back up again. I go into the B races without a quali time, start last and am happy being last. 6 clean or almost clean (as in didn't hit anyone, but might have gone off track once) races later and all I get is from C to a B. And then, the icing on the cake. I do a clean race, get the Clean Race star after the finish, but when the board comes up with all the racers and SRs, mine is a white B. No change on my SR. I get a clean race, don't hit ANYBODY, don't get off the track, and still no SR improvement.

Anyone has any idea why this happens?

 

[Shottah072]

IMO driving around the back without practice/qualy just to get SR back is pointless.

I think focusing a bit more on speed and consistent results and a little less about SR will help in the long run. The further you start at the front and the better your competition the easier it should be to maintain a high SR.

 

[rono_thomas]

Replays?

 

[daschund]

IMO driving around the back without practice/qualy just to get SR back is pointless.

I think focusing a bit more on speed and consistent results and a little less about SR will help in the long run. The further you start at the front and the better your competition the easier it should be to maintain a high SR.

I don't know what your SR is, but being on races with C/D is, honestly, a huge turn down for me and pretty much carnage all the time. Like I said, I've tried to get back to S since Monday, and it didn't work, that's why I then tried the "Start last, do nothing" approach. Although it looks like that doesn't work either...

Replays?

I never remember to save them, sorry...

 

[Krypton78]

Have you left the track or did shortcuts during driving behind the field?

Normally it should work gaining SR that way

 

[daschund]

Have you left the track or did shortcuts during driving behind the field?

Normally it should work gaining SR that way

No shortcuts, and, particularly on the one that I got a clean race but my SR did not go up at all, no leaving the track, no hitting anybody, nothing. That's what baffles me.

 

[daschund]

Trying to find out how to share a replay... Is there no other way then to hold the camera in front of the TV and re-record the whole thing?

 

[rono_thomas]

Trying to find out how to share a replay... Is there no other way then to hold the camera in front of the TV and re-record the whole thing?

Or you set the PS4 to record and then play the replay and then share that way. 👍

 

[daschund]

Or you set the PS4 to record and then play the replay and then share that way. 👍

I saved the replay, but can't find a way to watch it unless on the PS4... Tried re-watching and sharing it, but have no clue where does it go, as in, how the heck do I get it so that I can post it here?

 

[rono_thomas]

I saved the replay, but can't find a way to watch it unless on the PS4... Tried re-watching and sharing it, but have no clue where does it go, as in, how the heck do I get it so that I can post it here?

This probably explains it better than me 👍

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-record-gameplay-on-a-ps4/amp/

 

[Famine]

I saved the replay, but can't find a way to watch it unless on the PS4...

A replay file is a replay file, not a video. GT Sport converts the replay file into the replay you watch.

You'll need to use the PS4's own recording functions if you want to record video. By default the console will start recording if you double-tap the Share button, and stop when you double-tap it again, or after 15 minutes. It will also record the last 15 minutes if you press Share once and the save the video. You can change the time limits in the console's settings. These videos go into the Capture Gallery on the console.

However, a replay file will not show penalties, so even if you got any, nobody can see them. And it won't show the after race screen either, so even if you got an SR up/down/same, nobody can see it. To show that you must record live, again using the PS4's own recording functions as above.

 

[daschund]

Ok, so here goes two replays... Sorry I didn't see the last post before doing them so the first one is from a replay. I didn't get any penalties on it thou (although I did go off track on the second corner). SR didn't change at all after it. Second replay, even thou I did get a penalty, my SR got up 1 point. Am I wrong in thinking that it's way too weird that I didn't get a penalty at all on the first one, didn't crash into anyone, and still my SR didn't move at all? And then on the second one, where I did get a penalty, my SR goes up (even thou by only one point)?

 

[DJShadesUK]

if you press Share once and the save the video

press and hold share and then save the video.

FTFY.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ok, so here goes two replays... Sorry I didn't see the last post before doing them so the first one is from a replay. I didn't get any penalties on it thou (although I did go off track on the second corner). SR didn't change at all after it. Second replay, even thou I did get a penalty, my SR got up 1 point. Am I wrong in thinking that it's way too weird that I didn't get a penalty at all on the first one, didn't crash into anyone, and still my SR didn't move at all? And then on the second one, where I did get a penalty, my SR goes up (even thou by only one point)?

I already see a heavy contact at 1:18 in the video. Doesn't matter who hits who, you lose SR with every contact.

 

[Famine]

press and hold share and then save the video.

FTFY.

Not on mine, and mine's on default settings:

 

[DJShadesUK]

Not on mine, and mine's on default settings:
View attachment 756820

Ah, fair enough. Maybe Sony changed the default actions on newer PS4's, but left the default actions on older models even through successive updates then? I bought my limited edition Gran Turismo PS4 on GTS release day and I didn't even realise you could change the actions. The default for me is the "Easy Screenshots" mode:

• Press : Screenshot
• Press twice : Start/stop video recording.
• Press and hold : Display share menu.

 

[twitcher]

I don’t understand how people are losing SR. I’m pretty new to the game, only a few weeks. It took me all of two days to get SR-S, and it’s never dropped lower than S. I have clean races, unclean races, I have no qualms about wheel and door banging...honestly I don’t even consider the SR when I’m driving, I just drive.

So I don’t understand how people who are focusing on SR are managing to drop multiple levels.

 

[DJShadesUK]

Doesn't matter who hits who, you lose SR with every contact.

Not always. There's been times when I've been pushed off the track (obviously deliberately, being sideswiped 5 times until whoever gets the racing line is fairly unmistakable) and the red mist has descended, so I've caught back up to whoever it was and blatantly smashed them off the track going into a corner (yeah, I know. I'm not perfect) yet not received a penalty.

Then again, there's been times when I've been in a really good close battle with someone (literally inches off their bumper for a few laps) when they've been milliseconds slower getting back on the power out of a corner and I've ever-so-slightly brushed their bumper (not enough to cause any visual cue, just the faint tap sound) resulting in a penalty.

Its swings and roundabouts sometimes.

 

[AlanH49]

I don’t understand how people are losing SR. I’m pretty new to the game, only a few weeks. It took me all of two days to get SR-S, and it’s never dropped lower than S. I have clean races, unclean races, I have no qualms about wheel and door banging...honestly I don’t even consider the SR when I’m driving, I just drive.

So I don’t understand how people who are focusing on SR are managing to drop multiple levels.

Yeah. I find it very easy to reach SR-S. I never go out of my way to improve this rating. I’m disappointed if I get a penalty in a race and more often than not it’s due to a cut corner. Not sure if this affects your SR.

 

[rono_thomas]

SR-S and the most I ever loose is a 1pt, for me its case of knowing tracks and understanding the racing lines but also knowing how to protect yourself from opportunist dive bombs, you can quickly tell how risky the driver is behind and if they consider every inside line to be an overtaking opportunity, more often than not I find its a case of firmly shutting that door and then compromise their exit speed, and then just build that gap so the distance is too much for that inevitable dive bomb.

Its these that I find affect SR the most, Im in control of my actions and I really do try to boss my piece of Tarmac.

 

[Ryan Sandall]

With trying to build SR I believe if you actually race people (cleanly of course) will improve SR quicker than let’s say running at the back 100% clean and or at the front 100% clean

When you overtake someone I believe you get a Sr logo come up either green or orange I think,

Cos as a concept of the safety rating went up really quick cos you had a race all on your own that doesn’t show your a safe driver really, only competent that you haven’t binned it on your own

Safety is when you actually race and I think you’ll find much bigger gains when racing and getting clean races that way
(Although getting through lower safety rating lobby’s is a mine field I know) just be patient if the standard of driving is low mistakes are more likely so positions can be made risk free then easier
Hopefully boosting safety rating quicker
That’s what I think anyways

 

[twitcher]

With trying to build SR I believe if you actually race people (cleanly of course) will improve SR quicker than let’s say running at the back 100% clean and or at the front 100% clean

When you overtake someone I believe you get a Sr logo come up either green or orange I think,

Cos as a concept of the safety rating went up really quick cos you had a race all on your own that doesn’t show your a safe driver really, only competent that you haven’t binned it on your own

Safety is when you actually race and I think you’ll find much bigger gains when racing and getting clean races that way
(Although getting through lower safety rating lobby’s is a mine field I know) just be patient if the standard of driving is low mistakes are more likely so positions can be made risk free then easier
Hopefully boosting safety rating quicker
That’s what I think anyways

I kind of asked about how clean overtakes effect your SR in another thread, didn’t really get an answer. Coming from pcars, clean overtakes are the number one way to farm safety rating. This includes overtaking people in the pits, so the farming strat was to start last, pit at the end of lap 1, (which also has multiple benefits in pcars in a mandatory pit race), and then go from last to top 5 as everyone ahead peals off to take their pitstop mid race.


I just started GTS, but like I said, it only took me all of 2 or 3 days to reach SR-S. Some of my races were at Tsukuba, but most were the Gr 4 race at Suzuka. In that race, I was working through trying all the different Gr4 cars, and didnt set a quali lap in any of them. I’d start near the back, and almost always come away with a top 5-10, picking up podiums when the top drivers would trip over each other. Not every race was perfect, but I’d almost always have more clean overtakes than SR decreasing moments like contact.

Perhaps there is something to clean overtakes increasing SR rating faster.

 

[Ryan Sandall]

I kind of asked about how clean overtakes effect your SR in another thread, didn’t really get an answer. Coming from pcars, clean overtakes are the number one way to farm safety rating. This includes overtaking people in the pits, so the farming strat was to start last, pit at the end of lap 1, (which also has multiple benefits in pcars in a mandatory pit race), and then go from last to top 5 as everyone ahead peals off to take their pitstop mid race.


I just started GTS, but like I said, it only took me all of 2 or 3 days to reach SR-S. Some of my races were at Tsukuba, but most were the Gr 4 race at Suzuka. In that race, I was working through trying all the different Gr4 cars, and didnt set a quali lap in any of them. I’d start near the back, and almost always come away with a top 5-10, picking up podiums when the top drivers would trip over each other. Not every race was perfect, but I’d almost always have more clean overtakes than SR decreasing moments like contact.

Perhaps there is something to clean overtakes increasing SR rating faster.

I think the rating system values a clean overtake highly is what I’m saying
I don’t think the pit strategy would work
But certainly you gain more SR from a clean race with overtakes
Much more than a clean race with none

 

[twitcher]

I think the rating system values a clean overtake highly is what I’m saying
I don’t think the pit strategy would work
But certainly you gain more SR from a clean race with overtakes
Much more than a clean race with none

Ya I have no idea if the actual strat of pitting would work in GTS the way it did in pcars, if for no other reason that the race formats in GTS don’t make that strat viable (in pcars, there can be races with mandatory stops, but everyone treats them as a stop/go, not doing any actual work to the car).

Basically all I’m saying is that in pcars, clean overtakes are valued high when talking about increasing safety rating, so it wouldn’t at all suprise me if it was the same in GTS.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

The game does not value clean overtakes. There's a maximum point total you can reach by driving all sectors clean. It's the same whether you do it in the back (need to cross the finish line though or you miss those sectors) the front or while racing through the entire pack cleanly. I've done it enough as I rarely qualify anymore and no amount of clean overtakes will change the maximum or 'forgive' getting involved in an accident in T1.

What does affect SR gains is to have low SR to begin with. The maximum is boosted at lower SR, so much so that at SR.E you can get about 2.5x the point total as at SR.S. Deductions are also less at lower SR. I once lost 80 points from bump drafting on Bluemoon at SR.S then made back 50 points doing the exact same thing at SR.E. Same race length, same strategy, same contacts, huge difference.

The maximum is affected by the number of sectors in a race. Generally the more laps the higher the maximum. A daily C can easily go up to 26 points for a clean race at SR.S, meaning over 50 points at SR.E. The daily A and B are usually restricted to 4 or 5 points per race.

I kind of asked about how clean overtakes effect your SR in another thread, didn’t really get an answer. Coming from pcars, clean overtakes are the number one way to farm safety rating. This includes overtaking people in the pits, so the farming strat was to start last, pit at the end of lap 1, (which also has multiple benefits in pcars in a mandatory pit race), and then go from last to top 5 as everyone ahead peals off to take their pitstop mid race.


I just started GTS, but like I said, it only took me all of 2 or 3 days to reach SR-S. Some of my races were at Tsukuba, but most were the Gr 4 race at Suzuka. In that race, I was working through trying all the different Gr4 cars, and didnt set a quali lap in any of them. I’d start near the back, and almost always come away with a top 5-10, picking up podiums when the top drivers would trip over each other. Not every race was perfect, but I’d almost always have more clean overtakes than SR decreasing moments like contact.

Perhaps there is something to clean overtakes increasing SR rating faster.

You can go from SR.E to SR.S in one race. The maximum recorded SR gain in one race stands at 108 for a Bluemoon infield daily C. Clean overtakes have nothing to do with it however.

 

[FUNanywhere]

Try to win races and your SR will automatically be S.

Whats the point in reaching S anyway when you are stuck at low DR levels.

 

[daschund]

I don’t understand how people are losing SR. I’m pretty new to the game, only a few weeks. It took me all of two days to get SR-S, and it’s never dropped lower than S. I have clean races, unclean races, I have no qualms about wheel and door banging...honestly I don’t even consider the SR when I’m driving, I just drive.

So I don’t understand how people who are focusing on SR are managing to drop multiple levels.

Well, that's basically what happened to me... In the beginning it was really easy to get to the S, and then, with time it gets harder and harder (or at least lately I've been finding harder and harder). I wonder if there's a cumulative factor where because I haven't been an S for a while it's harder to get back up. There was a period that I really didn't care for either the SR or the DR and just wanted to race and wasn't worried about being faster/get better and with that my SR/DR got stationed. Wondering now if that makes any difference.

Try to win races and your SR will automatically be S.

Whats the point in reaching S anyway when you are stuck at low DR levels.

Apparently you never raced on a C/D race... :-) You get smashed left and right, you can't stick to a race line because there's always someone dive bombing the inside of the turn, if you brake at the right spot someone always crash into you, etc, etc. It's not racing, it's walking in a mine field...