Stanley Steamer Model 735 1922

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Stanley Steamer Model 735, 1922

SPECIFICATIONS

PRODUCTION
• Country of Origin : United States
• Cost New : $5650 in 1922 ($76,687.15 in 2015)

ENGINE
• Engine : 2032cc, 2 Cylinder
• Aspiration : Steam
• Power: 15 kw (20 BHP)
• Torque: 1355 N.m (1000 lb.ft)
• Engine location: Front

PERFORMANCE
• 0-48 km/h (0-30 mph) Time = ???
• 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) Time = ???
• Top Speed = 80.5 km/h (50 mph)

DRIVETRAIN
• Layout Front engine, Rear-wheel drive system
• 1 Speed Fixed transmission

RANGE
• 48.3 - 80.5 km's (30 - 50 miles) of standard Driving

DIMENSIONS & WEIGHTS
• Weight: 2000kg (4410 lbs)

For it's other fellow competitors please refer to the alternative Fuel Sources page under Steam cars.

 

[JKgo]

A steam car...interesting. What happens if it's iced over? Will it get, um, "steamy" inside during summer?
All kidding aside, why not.

 

[StigBelcherStyl]

The Next Gran Turismo, Steam Challenge:

STEAM CAR TRANSMISSIONS

• This would be a challenge because although steam cars are similar they really aren't. Most steam cars don't have gears although some white steam cars do have a 2-speed transmission

IN GAME CHANGES

• Steam cars don't operate on a rev gauge as such because all the system is doing is heating water although constantly adjusting the throttle to control steam to allow enough steam pressure for movement.
• So instead of including a rev gauge on Gran Turismo it would be better to have a steam pressure gauge.
• Water and fuel gauges required

STEAM CAR THROTTLE CONSERVATION

• Holding the throttle right open will allow a huge increase in speed, but a huge loss in steam pressure so if you don't coast or release throttle you won't have enough pressure for movement once you accelerate out of the next corner as you used all pressure on the straight

STEAM CAR LIMITATIONS

• Steam cars require Fuel & Water to be running so pit stops may be required for over use of steam
• Range of steam cars varies hugely depending on multiple factors like - if a steam car has a greater boiler size it can generate more steam pressure faster & How heavy the vehicle actually is.
• Fuel and water tank size can also contribute to the range a vehicle may have.
• Temperature of environment, if its a hot summers day a steam car will use more water, Cooler temperatures will supply the cars with greater operating conditions more range.

STEAM CAR ATTRIBUTES

• New Range, New Innovation for Gran Turismo
• Steam engine has instant torque like an electric car
• New driving Challenge (Controlling throttle to increase range of car)
• Great Variety of cars
• Gran Turismo has an awesome smoke system (Look Great Pluming out the back of the cars)
• Adds some great historical cars to the game (Lacking Cars before the year 1950)

Examples of cars and range:

Range: 110 - 485 kms - Doble Special, 1925
Range: 48 - 108 kms - Ford Falcon S.C, 1967
Range: 48 - 81 kms - Stanley 20HP, 1922
Range: 48 - 193 kms - Stanley 30HP, 1906
Range: 50 - 485 kms - White 20HP, 1907
Range: 24 - 161 kms - White Model 0-0, 1910

 

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Jay Lenos Garage Episode Stanley Steamer, 1922

 

[eran0004]

100 kg per bhp? It would make the Subaru 360 look like a rocket

 

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100 kg per bhp? It would make the Subaru 360 look like a rocket

Steam is like "Electric Cars" it's the torque that counts

Ferrari 458 Italia Torque = 540 N.m (398 lb.ft)
Stanley Steamer Torque = 1000 N.m (1355 lb.ft)

 

[eran0004]

Steam is like "Electric Cars" it's the torque that counts

Ferrari 458 Italia Torque = 540 N.m (398 lb.ft)
Stanley Steamer Torque = 1000 N.m (1355 lb.ft)

It's always effect, power, that counts. The torque figure only tells you how strong the engine is, not how fast it produces work. To accelerate a car, the engine needs to produce work, and the power figure tells you how fast it does that.

acceleration = Force / mass

Force = Power / velocity​

Now we can compare the Steamer against the Subaru 360. To simplify the maths we can say that both cars are equipped with a continously variable transmission, that allows the engine to run at peak power at any given speed.

The Steamer has a peak power of 15 kW and a mass of 2000 kg.
The 360 has a peak power of 12 kW and a mass of 385 kg.

At a velocity of 1 m/s, the force accelerating the Steamer is equal to 15 / 1 = 15 kN.
Dividing with the mass of 2000 kg (or 2 megagrams, or Mg) we get an acceleration of 15 / 2 = 7.5 m/s^2.

At the same velocity, the force accelerating the Subaru 360 is equal to 12 / 1 = 12 kN.
Dividing with the mass of 385 kg (or 0.385 Mg) we get an acceleration of 12 / 0.385 = 31.2 m/s^2.

At 10 m/s, we get the following:

Steamer: 15 kW / 10 m/s = 1.5 kN.
1.5 / 2 = 0.75 m/s^2

360: 12 kW / 10 m/s = 1.2 kN.
1.2 / 0.385 = 3.1 m/s^2​

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So with a CVT transmission, the Subaru 360 accelerates more than 3 times the rate of the Steamer.

In real life, the Steamer has a single fixed gear, and the 360 has a gearbox with, I believe 4 speeds or somewhere in that neighbourhood. In stock condition it's possible that the Steamer would be slightly faster during the first couple of meters, since the 360 will need to operate at an rpm range where it produces significantly lower power, but as soon as it gets up to peak power in 1st gear it would soar past the Steamer.

Edit: And now, since I want that drag race to happen, I voted for the car