starting drifting with a G27

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so i recently got a logitech g27 , and i love drifting , i can do it pretty good with a DS3.
but man with the g27 ,i cant control a single drift i keep spinning out.
what are the best tips to start drifting with a wheel ?

thank you
 
johanhummer9
so i recently got a logitech g27 , and i love drifting , i can do it pretty good with a DS3.
but man with the g27 ,i cant control a single drift i keep spinning out.
what are the best tips to start drifting with a wheel ?

thank you

I don't drift the g27 but I do drift the dfgt. I'd suggest starting with a 300zx from the dealership, I find this car very smooth and easy to control, what ever car you decide to choose stick with it untill you learn the basics. I know it does seem impossible to drift on the wheel at first, you have just got to stick at it and don't give up. It took me around 3 week of practicing every day before I could drift. And around 6 week before I could link corners. If you need a setup feel free to add me RSM-deedub. Good luck
 
Doesnt matter what car you choose. Just learn how to drive with it before you drift. Do the license Tests with it to get back up to speed.
 
Doesnt matter what car you choose. Just learn how to drive with it before you drift. Do the license Tests with it to get back up to speed.

This. Chances are even if you drive in real life switching to a wheel is going to feel weird for the first 5 days if you're using a DFGT/DFP and for the first 1.5 weeks for G25/G27. So it's worth getting to know how the wheel is going to respond under normal driving and then slowly do some deliberate sliding.
 
I just threw my self at corners eventually I made it round lol. The car choice does matter a lot, iv been on my wheel 5 month now and still can't drift some cars properly, others I can drift very good so ye the car choice does play a big part in learning.
 
I just threw my self at corners eventually I made it round lol. The car choice does matter a lot, iv been on my wheel 5 month now and still can't drift some cars properly, others I can drift very good so ye the car choice does play a big part in learning.

Tuning does matter quite a bit as well. As for picking your first drift car, pick something FR or MR, they make the best drift cars.
 
MSTER232
Tuning does matter quite a bit as well. As for picking your first drift car, pick something FR or MR, they make the best drift cars.

Ye I didnt start in a 300zx i started in an s15. But when I first tried the 300zx I was like what the, this is so much smoother lol. That's why I suggested that car. I agree a good tune is a must for the wheel.
 
Missing the point. You must learn to crawl before you can walk.

This is true.

Ye I didnt start in a 300zx i started in an s15. But when I first tried the 300zx I was like what the, this is so much smoother lol. That's why I suggested that car. I agree a good tune is a must for the wheel.

How long have you had your wheel for, and how long did you spend driving before you decided that you wanted to have a go at drifting?
 
MSTER232
This is true.

How long have you had your wheel for, and how long did you spend driving before you decided that you wanted to have a go at drifting?

He started drifting the first day lol. I am gonna say he has had it for 3 months maybe more.
 
Eric1512
He started drifting the first day lol. I am gonna say he has had it for 3 months maybe more.

5 month and ye I started the first day. Come on guys I'm trying to help the guy and you guys are trying to put me down. I do know what I'm talking about. To be honest I find it hard to race and easy to drift.
 
I went from a Momo wheel to a G27. The Momo wheel might as well have been a controller. Drifting was a blast with it. Then I got the g27. By far, far better... For racing. The learning curve was steep when it came to drifting though. It took me a solid month before i could really throw together a full track drift again, i still struggle to juggle down the straights. Everyone its going to have their opinion on a car to use (even me, fc or a crossfire) however, everyone like something different. So just find something you like. Take a few laps to feel the car. The slowly start sliding it. The biggest issue when people switch up is that you can no longer snap to opposite lock. You get into the habit of just throwing the car into a corner and going straight into full countersteer. That, as your finding, doesn't work with the wheel. Tort going to have to kind forget how to drift and relearn. Go slow, learn how to neutral steer. Don't jam the throttle, squeeze and release smoothly. Smooth is key. Try at first to keep your drifts kinda shallow at first. More angle will come as you get used to really working the throttle and wheel together. There is no secret to tell. Just start with a stock, untuned car, once you can throw it around corners, do a single mod. Start again, then do another mod, then go and test it out. Every time you make a change, test the car out. But only do one change at a time then test. Take your time and you be patient, it will come to you.
 
I use to have a Logitech Driving Force Pro but couldn't drift with that wheel because of the countersteering is super slow so I decided to get a G27 took me 2-3 weeks before I actually got the hang of it. Cars, tune and wheel settings matter a lot, I learned drifting the hard way in GT5 with the wheel because I literally had to get my tuning right so it is easier to drift, my advice is get the S13 have only about 350hp (lower the hp the easier; when you think you have improved adjust your hp to 400hp then move to a much faster car). LSD = Limited Slip Differential plays a important role in your drifting with controller you don't need LSD because you can literally change the position of your wheel in less than a second but for wheel users its way different, I currently have Lock Diffs which is known as Wielded Diffs, some people like 2 way LSD. Here is the settings that I believe is close to real life Diffs

5/60/60 = 2 Way LSD = When your driving on a straight line your wheels are open diffs ( inner and outer wheels spin at different rate) but when your in mid drift it locks and act as a lock diffs.

60/60/60 = Lock/Wielded Diffs = Your back wheels spin rate is the same so you can easily upset the car to get it to drift. But when you want to go straight that's a different story requires you to have a certain amount of knowledge or skills to get it back straight without making a fool of yourself, I think I learned how to do it because I mostly come out of corners easily without tailfishing but who knows I might need to work on it more.

Transmission, plays a big role as well. I like to have longer gears that is because wheel users can't shift as fast and sometimes you mis-shift causing you to slowdown and disrupting the tandem. So your final should be around 350 I have it at 390 I think.

Suspension one of the important tune you have to get right, First of all too much camber is a overkill because it's super hard to control so mine has 2.2 Front and 1.2 Back, make your front stiff not too stiff but at medium rate and I like to have my back a lil softer (dampers) because in certain tracks there's walls and ripple strips I usually like to wall ride that and I sometimes touch the ripple strips and if your suspension is way to stiff then you will immediately spin out so I like to make it a lil softer so there is more play in the shocks.

Some people think the most realistic feedback settings for G27 is 4-6 but in my opinion go for 10 feels way more realistic but you do have to get use to it.

That is basically what I have learned so far I don't think I have included everything else as I can't remember all of em so I'll edit it later.
 
You basically got that spot on there ^^. Only thing I disagree with is the force feed back setting, I know a lot of people that use FFB 7 and 10 but in my opinion these settings are way too stiff, it doesn't feel like a real cars steering, it feels more like trying to steer a car with broken power steering. When you first start out you do alot of fighting with the wheel so I'd suggest starting on FFB 1 and as you start to get smoother gradually rase the FFB until your at a level where you feel comfortable.
 
I'm on the same stage as you bro but I've had it for a few weeks now. I an drift most corners but I can only transition once every like 10 trys. I'm finding fishtailing on purpose hard to do as well. Any tips?
 
You basically got that spot on there ^^. Only thing I disagree with is the force feed back setting, I know a lot of people that use FFB 7 and 10 but in my opinion these settings are way too stiff, it doesn't feel like a real cars steering, it feels more like trying to steer a car with broken power steering. When you first start out you do alot of fighting with the wheel so I'd suggest starting on FFB 1 and as you start to get smoother gradually rase the FFB until your at a level where you feel comfortable.

True; I'd only suggest using a high FFB setting if you've got a set of iron hands :sly: .
 
You basically got that spot on there ^^. Only thing I disagree with is the force feed back setting, I know a lot of people that use FFB 7 and 10 but in my opinion these settings are way too stiff, it doesn't feel like a real cars steering, it feels more like trying to steer a car with broken power steering. When you first start out you do alot of fighting with the wheel so I'd suggest starting on FFB 1 and as you start to get smoother gradually rase the FFB until your at a level where you feel comfortable.

I suggest starting on 7, or 8, and staying there. I myself used 10 (DFGT) for over a year, switched to 8 now. 10 is just a tad too strong.

True; I'd only suggest using a high FFB setting if you've got a set of iron hands :sly: .

Not really... When drifting, fighting the FFB is wrong, mostly.. :P So 10, would only help him understand, imo. :)
 
Not really... When drifting, fighting the FFB is wrong, mostly.. :P So 10, would only help him understand, imo. :)

Yes it is best not to completely fight the wheel and for most corners and it is best to let the wheel do the countersteering for you to an extent but I'm just saying that you don't need it all the way at 10. That's the same FFB levels you get when you're on a rally track I think (it's fixed at 10).
 
I use FFB 1 mainly because I broke my first wheel In two month on FFB 5. I find it very easy on 1 and it feels like driving a corsa lol.
 
Tried the 300zx today and was amazed at how fun It was with just a upgraded intake and lsd on ch's! I However it feels like it doesent have enough torque because I have to throw it into the corner and it loses speed and if the corner is long enough it stalls out. Should I do a stage 2 engine upgrade or will it ruin the point of the car being easy to handle?
 
You basically got that spot on there ^^. Only thing I disagree with is the force feed back setting, I know a lot of people that use FFB 7 and 10 but in my opinion these settings are way too stiff, it doesn't feel like a real cars steering, it feels more like trying to steer a car with broken power steering. When you first start out you do alot of fighting with the wheel so I'd suggest starting on FFB 1 and as you start to get smoother gradually rase the FFB until your at a level where you feel comfortable.

True, I know what you mean and what you are saying. FFB 10 is a bit stiff for some people but to be honest when I put my FFB to 10 the counter steering is more quicker and faster, I dun know maybe it's just my wheel. Had my wheel for months now and I still have it on 10 and the wheel is taking it good :)

I'm on the same stage as you bro but I've had it for a few weeks now. I an drift most corners but I can only transition once every like 10 trys. I'm finding fishtailing on purpose hard to do as well. Any tips?

For transition it's not hard once you get use to it. We all have different techniques, that's why our drifts looks different in some way. For example I usually like going for a slide in Suzuka Circuit East Course because transition is very important there, what I do is when I'm drifting (drifting a left curve corner) and there is a corner ahead (right corner) I like to hard flick the wheel to the right and counter steer it then use my accelerator to maintain the drift; I do it this way because I don't have the handbrake mod so my only choices are Weight Transfer, Power Over and Clutch kick but if you do have a handbrake then use your handbrake and clutch but don't do it for too long or you will spin out. Well like I said before try the lock diffs for tail fishing you can upset the car really easily. Good Luck

Tried the 300zx today and was amazed at how fun It was with just a upgraded intake and lsd on ch's! I However it feels like it doesent have enough torque because I have to throw it into the corner and it loses speed and if the corner is long enough it stalls out. Should I do a stage 2 engine upgrade or will it ruin the point of the car being easy to handle?

Well one of my favourite cars in GT5 is 300zx, I have it fully upgraded running 630+hp, if you read my last I mentioned that too much hp is hard to handle, upgrade the car because you don't want your car to stall mid drift but if you do encounter that again kick the clutch to rev your engine. Upgrade the car and if you don't like how it feels you can always buy a new one or take out the parts that you have installed.
 
You Drunk Bro
Tried the 300zx today and was amazed at how fun It was with just a upgraded intake and lsd on ch's! I However it feels like it doesent have enough torque because I have to throw it into the corner and it loses speed and if the corner is long enough it stalls out. Should I do a stage 2 engine upgrade or will it ruin the point of the car being easy to handle?[/


Mine is fully tuned with mid turbo. LSD is 5 60 60 if you want the full tune add me.
 
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