Steering Wheels for GT7

[Steelmonkey]

I'm looking for a wheel (not able to afford a Fanatec set up). Can any of suggest a reasonably priced
wheel with decent specs that works well on GT7.
My initial thoughts were, if I can stretch to it a Logitech G923. What are your opinions of this wheel ?
Are there any wheels that can be used on both Xbox Series X and also on PS5 ?

 

[gufazi]

I owned a Logitech G27 and shifter for many years and loved it.

I sold that and switched to Thrustmaster 300 and shifter when that came out, but never felt the same love. It had a failure, which was replaced, and was noisy and hotter than the G27. Thrustmaster software and hardware had tons of options (wheels, pedals, deadzones, calibration, button assignments) compared to the Logitech, but I was never quite happy with the setup or driving feel.

Now I'm on the Logitech G293 and shifter and I'm feeling the love again. Its not as torquey and the Thrustmaster and it doesn't have the same options / flexibility, but it just works well for me. Simpler, good but subtle road feel (Trueforce?) and better straight out of the box imho.

 

[GBO Possum]

I owned a Logitech G27 and shifter for many years and loved it.

I sold that and switched to Thrustmaster 300 and shifter when that came out, but never felt the same love. It had a failure, which was replaced, and was noisy and hotter than the G27. Thrustmaster software and hardware had tons of options (wheels, pedals, deadzones, calibration, button assignments) compared to the Logitech, but I was never quite happy with the setup or driving feel.

Now I'm on the Logitech G293 and shifter and I'm feeling the love again. Its not as torquey and the Thrustmaster and it doesn't have the same options / flexibility, but it just works well for me. Simpler, good but subtle road feel (Trueforce?) and better straight out of the box imho.

Speaking of Logitech G27, I'm using one via a DriveHub on GT7, mounted on a Wheel Stand Pro which provides great rigidity. Not that I'm any expert, but I enjoy the setup, and have used a G27 wheel for GT5, GT6, GT Sport and now GT7.

Along the way, one broke and I replaced it.

I put 35,000 miles on GT Sport, probably about the same for the total of GT5 and GT6, and so far 5,000 miles on GT7.

So about 75,000 miles to date, across 2 wheels.

 

[Bojador]

Check the g29. It’s cheaper than the g923 and the price difference is hardly justifiable.

 

[TypeRDC5]

I don't have anything recent to compare it to but happy with my t150 pro, not the best but has done me very well for years and how cheap it is.

Would not recommend the t150 non pro version as the brake pedal has no resistance, very budget.

 

[Serum]

Speaking of Logitech G27, I'm using one via a DriveHub on GT7, mounted on a Wheel Stand Pro which provides great rigidity. Not that I'm any expert, but I enjoy the setup, and have used a G27 wheel for GT5, GT6, GT Sport and now GT7.

Along the way, one broke and I replaced it.

I put 35,000 miles on GT Sport, probably about the same for the total of GT5 and GT6, and so far 5,000 miles on GT7.

So about 75,000 miles to date, across 2 wheels.

Same here, except I’m on the same wheel from GT5 through GT7. I picked it up off of Craigslist for $100 and it’s been good to me. So good, I’m gonna buy a g29 or g923 brand new when the time comes.

 

[Egghaus88]

I can't agree with the comments above, I replaced my G27 with the T300 for PS5 and the T300 is miles ahead of the G27. Way smoother and powerful FFB, the G27 clunks and rattles like crazy in comparison. Pedal wise the G27 feels higher quality than the bundled TM pedals, but I am using the T-LCM load cell set, where Logitech has nothing to offer. Obviously you also have a selection of wheel rims with TM which Logitech also does not offer.

 

[CQR Deuce]

I don't have anything recent to compare it to but happy with my t150 pro, not the best but has done me very well for years and how cheap it is.

Would not recommend the t150 non pro version as the brake pedal has no resistance, very budget.

I've been impressed with the T150 since getting back into sim racing. I had an old set of T3PA pedals so picked up the t150 to save some coin. That didn't last long though. Picked up the T-LCM a couple weeks ago lol.

For the money the T150 is an excellent entry level wheel though.

 

[TypeRDC5]

I've been impressed with the T150 since getting back into sim racing. I had an old set of T3PA pedals so picked up the t150 to save some coin. That didn't last long though. Picked up the T-LCM a couple weeks ago lol.

For the money the T150 is an excellent entry level wheel though.

The TLCM pedals looks really nice! Beginners often over look the pedals when buying a wheel but I would say a good brake pedal is more important than the wheel itself.

Luckily I experienced the standard T150 pedals before and done my research online before going with the T3PA set.

 

[xMAXIx79]

Also my recommendation.... start with a T150 (the cheapest model) and buy the T-LCM right away so that you would have a very good set for around 300 euros... Alternatively, try a good used T300 or T248 instead of the new T150 to get... and said pedals. Logitec has no pedals that can even begin to keep up with the T-LCM.

The best thing is that the T-LCM are basically compatible with every Thrustmaster steering wheel... and if you want to use them on the PC, you can even operate them "stand alone" via USB and thus use any other steering wheel.

 

[Primmy]

i bought second hand as didnt want to spend loads for something i might not like...got a T150, std pedals and a Playseat challenge for about £150..bargain!
However the T150 has overheating issues so added an upgraded fan and some cooling holes!! working fine so far

Enjoying the setup and it does take a few days/weeks to get used to the change from controller and to get back to the pace when using a controller.

just get a FFB wheel within your budget, any one is an upgrade on a controller

 

[Junkman55]

I would go on YouTube and take a look at reviews for all the availability wheels in your budget. Then make a decision to either spend more on one wheel or own two wheels wishing you had saved for one. I think most simulator drivers have our first wheel in storage or in the trash.

 

[gufazi]

i bought second hand as didnt want to spend loads for something i might not like...got a T150, std pedals and a Playseat challenge for about £150..bargain!
However the T150 has overheating issues so added an upgraded fan and some cooling holes!! working fine so far

Enjoying the setup and it does take a few days/weeks to get used to the change from controller and to get back to the pace when using a controller.

just get a FFB wheel within your budget, any one is an upgrade on a controller

Also, I had good luck with the refurbished models on retailer sites. Up to 1/3 cheaper (depending on model) and they usually come with an extended return window.

 

[sjs]

i bought a g923 recently since my old g27 isn't natively supported by ps5. i know logitech peripherals are entry-level at best, but for $400, the build quality seems a bit lower than what i expected.

• Accelerator pedal has some wobble to it
• click wheel on the steering wheel has a lot of play
• d-pad on the steering wheel is very shoddy
• button placement is stupid
• ffb motors are comically loud and sound very, very cheap. slowing to a stop, or accelerating slowly will cause overly aggressive centering of the wheel, at which point it rattles very violently. it is the most irritating noise you can imagine, and you if you spin out and go off track, you will most likely restart the event rather than deal with the excessive noise the wheel generates at low speed as you get back on track.

for its price, it's hard to recommend. i would have ditched it and picked up a Fanatec GT DD Pro if they were in stock.

 

[Green Book]

Check the g29. It’s cheaper than the g923 and the price difference is hardly justifiable.

This. If you're trying to stretch your wallet I'd look at the normal g29. I have seen nothing but negativity about the 923's haptic feedback. I've seen multiple people say the constant rumble in the wheel makes your hands feel numb after a while.

I have a g29 and am quite happy with it. My only complaint with it is I wish the MFD dial was a little more tactile. But the 923 has the same issue.

 

[kartman21]

I own a T300RS for 7 years without any issues, great wheel and reliable, GT7 is not (ATM) the best game to enjoy the wheel the FFB is really poor, it's far better with AC or ACC, PCARS, Dirt of F1
I think this wheel is a big step foward compare to the old and noisy gear system of the logitech products

 

[Raceface1959]

I bought a G29 based on it's popularity. What I like about it is that it is literally plug n play for GT Sport, GT7, Assetto Corsa, Assetto Corsa Competizione, the 3 Project Cars, Dirt 4 and Dirt 5 with no fiddling necessary. Sure you can fine tune parameters within each game, but it works without doing so if you aren't good at that sort of thing. My only small complaint is that I wish the -/+ toggle was where the dpad is.

 

[HGHTCH]

I've owned every Driving Force G25/27/29 and now the Fanatec CSL/GT DD.
Get a used G29, it's more than fine, it's not super powerful but it's easier to post better times with it and it's more than enough

 

[SugarBooger]

Chiming in for T150. Get the Pro package if possible, gets you decent entry level pedals for cheap. It was my wheel and a good one till I succumbed to the DD Pro. I didn't have any issues overheating, I thought that was just some T300s.

Also something to keep in mind, the T248 has much worse paddles, very loud and cheap feeling. T150 has good metal paddles that do the job efficiently and quietly. Honestly I do not know what Thrustmaster was thinking with the T248, at least at the price they sell it at.

 

[xMAXIx79]

Chiming in for T150. Get the Pro package if possible, gets you decent entry level pedals for cheap. It was my wheel and a good one till I succumbed to the DD Pro. I didn't have any issues overheating, I thought that was just some T300s.

Also something to keep in mind, the T248 has much worse paddles, very loud and cheap feeling. T150 has good metal paddles that do the job efficiently and quietly. Honestly I do not know what Thrustmaster was thinking with the T248, at least at the price they sell it at.

I agree with you absolutely right.. the switching pedals of the T248 are a disaster... The volume is much too high, the size is too small, the pressure point is strange.. only that they have Hall sensors and therefore function in principle forever without problems would be a plus, but as they are.. I do NOT like using them at all.

But apart from that, the T248 is clearly superior to the T150.. but it also costs considerably more.

 

[Pigems]

I own a T300RS for 7 years without any issues, great wheel and reliable, GT7 is not (ATM) the best game to enjoy the wheel the FFB is really poor, it's far better with AC or ACC, PCARS, Dirt of F1
I think this wheel is a big step foward compare to the old and noisy gear system of the logitech products

Agreed, I have over 4K hours on my T300 now, and it’s been great from day one. 👍

 

[dimedancing]

The G923 gets a bad rap online, but as someone who’s been using it with GT7 since the beginning, I’ll say that it has the best implementation of trueforce in any game I’ve seen and that the force feedback in general, while not super strong, is very detailed.

I can see why reviewers maybe thought the audio feedback was a bit gimmicky in other games, but that’s not all the wheel can do, and it’s not how GT7 utilizes it; instead you get some very subtle haptic feedback that does a great job making each car feel unique in a way that I’ve never really experienced in Gran Turismo before (haven’t played GTS though, so maybe it’s there too). Kerb vibration, shift clunking, and on some cars even engine vibration are communicated through the wheel, and to me at least it adds greatly to the immersion, to the point where I actually would recommend spending the extra money over the G27. I’d definitely miss it if it was gone.

That said, the wheel is loud when you crash or lose control, as with all Logitech wheels. But I think the build quality is quite good; it feels better built than my old GT Force and Driving Force Pro wheels, both of which are over a decade old and still going strong.

 

[xMAXIx79]

The G923 gets a bad rap online, but as someone who’s been using it with GT7 since the beginning, I’ll say that it has the best implementation of trueforce in any game I’ve seen and that the force feedback in general, while not super strong, is very detailed.

I can see why reviewers maybe thought the audio feedback was a bit gimmicky in other games, but that’s not all the wheel can do, and it’s not how GT7 utilizes it; instead you get some very subtle haptic feedback that does a great job making each car feel unique in a way that I’ve never really experienced in Gran Turismo before (haven’t played GTS though, so maybe it’s there too). Kerb vibration, shift clunking, and on some cars even engine vibration are communicated through the wheel, and to me at least it adds greatly to the immersion, to the point where I actually would recommend spending the extra money over the G27. I’d definitely miss it if it was gone.

That said, the wheel is loud when you crash or lose control, as with all Logitech wheels. But I think the build quality is quite good; it feels better built than my old GT Force and Driving Force Pro wheels, both of which are over a decade old and still going strong.

I recently heard the G923 live at Media Markt when someone was playing GT7 there... I'm so glad I didn't buy a Logitech. For all other things, ie mouse - keyboard ectr. nothing else comes to mind than Logitech.. but when it came to the steering wheels, Thrustmaster was more in my mind.
As I said, I heard the G923 there in the shop, which is not as quiet as my office, and found it uncomfortably loud and clattering even there. It may last a long time, but listening to it feels like it's about to break into a thousand pieces at any moment.

 

[Junkman55]

Food for thought on picking a wheel to play GT7. there is only two wheels that has the Sony endorsement if they are better then others wheel setups I do not know. But if there is something they have the others wheels don’t have technically you might want to put that in your choice of wheels to pick from.

 

[breeminator]

Beginners often over look the pedals when buying a wheel but I would say a good brake pedal is more important than the wheel itself.

I totally agree with this, particularly for GT in races where tyre wear is a factor. What you need is to be able to very reliably hit a specific % of maximal braking. Suppose you decide a particular corner is best taken at 70% braking, you need to hit very close to 70% every time, otherwise your braking point will be too early or late. For a while, with GTS, I had my pedals set up such that this was possible, and it gave me outstanding control over tyre wear. Unfortunately it had come about by accident, to some extent, as I'd removed the rubber stop and put it back in, and it had got jammed not fully in, and it just happened to give exactly the right characteristics. Eventually it wore from the repeated force and slid fully in, no longer allowing me the same control over sub-maximal braking. I've tried other mechanical solutions such as taping quite hard foam to the back of the brake pedal arm, but nothing has lasted very long in use. I play with a controller these days as I'm not playing competitively any more.