Stock Seasonal Time Trials #9 (BMW Concept 1, Subaru Impreza - 3/26 to 4/23)

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This is a thread series for the seasonal time trials that focuses on completing the challenges (i.e. beating the gold target times) with stock versions of the cars. This means that instead of maximizing your PP with upgrades and focusing on getting the fastest laps on the in-game leaderboard, you are attempting to complete the challenges with the bare minimum amount of 'car' and money-spent as is possible. So far it appears to me that PD has been setting gold times by approximately what the stock versions of the cars are capable of. It's also the cheapest way to complete the events because running stock means you do not need to spend any money on your car and the cars that PD has been using so far have been prize cars. I do not intend to include the time trials where PD provides the car because those gold times are rather forgiving.

Note on changing time trials: PD appears to have been changing the format of their time trials. The last set of time trials were considerably more difficult to win stock and in fact one of the three has yet to be completed by anyone (SSTT#8). The last seasonal introduced the need to purchase a car and the current seasonal has done this too. The current seasonal has also combined the normally separate courtesy car time trials with the standard ones so that now there are only two possible stock time trials instead of the normal three.

This thread is for people to post their lap times who have used the following limitations:

1) Car must be stock: no upgrades to cars are permitted (this includes upgrades that do not increase PP such as transmissions).
2) Fresh oil changes in order to temporarily increase HP and PP are not permitted. If you have done an oil change recently you should lower your car's power to the non-fresh-oil-change HP level or wait until the HP has returned to the OEM oil level.
3) You must use the original tires that the car came with.
4) No "Car Settings" like Brake Balance can be adjusted.
5) No SRF or ASM is allowed: other Driver Assists are permitted.


Stock Seasonal Time Trials #9:

BMW Concept 1 Series tii Super Lap: target 1:35.500
[Stock Concept 1 Series tii '07 = 458 PP - 304 HP - 1,520 KG - SH]

Subaru Impreza Super Lap: target 1:21.000
[Stock S206 NBR Challenge Package '12 = 471 PP - 315 HP - 1,470 KG - SH]*

*There are 19 entrants for this time trial. The S206 NBR is the car with the most PP. PP is not everything so other entrants might be more suited to this extreme track, but only time will tell.

 

[Hastatus]

As with the last seasonal I'm finding that the silver times are the new gold times. The way that PD has been setting their times seems to have changed in my opinion. At first I thought maybe they want to force tuning, but I have also been having trouble getting gold with the FXX courtesy car. I don't want to think it, but I have a strong suspicion that PD has adjusted the times to make it more difficult and because more people on the leaderboards use SRF they adjusted the SRF scale which then shifts the non-SRF scale beyond the reach of gold. This is pessimistic conspiracy theory... I wish I knew how PD set the times in the first place: by a person or a computer; and whatever they use, do they employ SRF, or forget to turn it off when they set the times? Oh how I wish the person who came up with SRF had never been a PD employee!

 

[nowcontrol]

I got to Gold in the 'FXX' early this morning with 1:37.849, took me about 20 -30 laps to tame the car in the braking zones and on exits.

I think you are right about the times now, as it seems they have adjusted them so that the silver times are only just doable for stock without SRF, and I would say that the gold times have been adjusted as doable for stock/SRF=on, as if they are trying to force us all to choose to use SRF or succumb to spending the hard earned credits on some tuning.

 

[Divinus]

I got to Gold in the 'FXX' early this morning with 1:37.849, took me about 20 -30 laps to tame the car in the braking zones and on exits.

I think you are right about the times now, as it seems they have adjusted them so that the silver times are only just doable for stock without SRF, and I would say that the gold times have been adjusted as doable for stock/SRF=on, as if they are trying to force us all to choose to use SRF or succumb to spending the hard earned credits on some tuning.

Did you gold it with or without SRF?

 

[Dusty1990]

Did you gold it with or without SRF?

probably both knowing that guy, but hey, thats cool 👍

 

[nowcontrol]

Did you gold it with or without SRF?

Without, of course......go check the leaderboard. 👍

 

[StirlingMoose]

Silver is the new gold? Had a go in the Beemer first. 1:37.999. Talk about skin of my teeth. Lost a fraction by tapping a wall but apart from that it was about as good as I can do. I can see maybe a few tenths and a more skilled driver could probably knock a second off, but two and a half? Nah.

Edit - Did a few laps in the Ferrari for a 1:39.108 with plenty of room for improvement. Some very strict track boundaries on this one. On the last TT at Monza in GT5 you could get away with murder but not here.

 

[Ryk]

The Subaru event.
Which Scooby Doo is our "Industry standard"? - I guess we are using the one in the thumbnail picture for the time trial? If so... can some one Impreza me with which version that one is. But it is at the Matterhorn... could be enjoyable to trial them all? 19 -

 

[waukazoo]

@nowcontrol I also grabed gold on Monza. I'm close behind you with a 1:37.853 . Using a ds3, no srf everything off except abs1.
@StirlingMoose The track boundaries are way tighter than before. All the better though.

 

[StirlingMoose]

I tried a few laps with the S206 NBR at the Matterhorn and once again I don't think gold is achievable. I'm still learning the track but just over a second shy of silver on a fairly tidy lap.

 

[CRANK_U1]

I might give this a try later on. But how do you know if someone is using bone stock?

 

[Dusty1990]

I might give this a try later on. But how do you know if someone is using bone stock?

You don't, trust only.

 

[StirlingMoose]

I might give this a try later on. But how do you know if someone is using bone stock?

Well you can't know for sure but I guess this is a challenge for folks who want to set themselves a challenge, so there's little point in cheating.

Tried out the WRX STi c spec 09 and knocked off a couple of tenths easily. It might just be that I'm getting used to the track but it feels more planted to me. It's certainly no slower than the S206 NBR.

 

[Dusty1990]

I might give this a try later on. But how do you know if someone is using bone stock?

Do the FXX one, can't tune that, would be interesting to see what you do with SRF off on that one 👍

 

[CRANK_U1]

Well i did 3 or 4 laps in the NBR and could only manage a 1:25:3XX lol. I think stirlings right about gold not being achieveable for sure. And i'll definitely give that FXX ago tomorrow Dusty. I aint that confident about that one though

 

[Dusty1990]

Well i did 3 or 4 laps in the NBR and could only manage a 1:25:3XX lol. I think stirlings right about gold not being achieveable for sure. And i'll definitely give that FXX ago tomorrow Dusty. I aint that confident about that one though

I'm pretty 'confident' you'll Gold it mate ......



I'm just waiting for waddy2001 to post a video on how its done 👍

 

[CRANK_U1]

A 1:24:260 now. Still using the NBR. I just need a good run at the uphill section i think to pip silver.
edit: 1:23:530 now. I'll give it another bash tomorrow and see how close i can get to gold.

 

[Ryk]

Scooby Doo at Matterhorn

Bought...

1994 Impreza WRX STi - in Vivian red.
27,780 Capitalist Roubles.
246bhp/31torques/1230kg 438pp SH tyres

but when you turn the key you get 266bhp - those tricksy chaps at Fuji Heavy Industries!

The car has 45/55 torques split and is adjustable... but left stock.

Never done many laps at this layout, In fact when I started rolling along I did wonder which track I was at. Did 3 and a half laps.

1st I ran wide at the crest 90° right early in the lap. (It was at about this point I remembered the track.)
Next lap I ran wide at the fast cresting 45° left that falls away on the exit.
3rd lap was a charm and I managed a Bronze time of 1m29.947.
Next lap I was going faster, but that fast cresting 45° left at the end of sector one had a trick for me. I hooked my left rear on the curb, and that launched the car into a stunt man 2 wheel panic... Managed to get the car back on all four tyres but I had moved too far to the left, and collected every single one of the square signposts on the Matterhorn side of the track.

Firstly the track map in game is wrong... for some reason it starts at split point 1.
I really need to learn the track.
Secondly my controller didn't do anything hysterical to me.

Had a peek at my mates times, and one joker ran a gold using the direction buttons...

I recommend getting a Bronze cup time... the PD sound effect department nailed the level of excitement from the bored petrolhead crowds.

Actually I am in a positive frame as I like the nature of the track and I've never run it since December in a A Spec Rally car race. Loads of time to find as soon as I learn the lines for the track. I am braking way too early and carrying no speed through any corners.

Not sure if I should stay with the Ancestral Impreza until I am up to speed or if I should swap about and try the other 16 Impreza cars and then this imposter called the S206 NBR Challenge Package.

Any corner tips for this track?

 

[StirlingMoose]

Any corner tips for this track?

It helps to keep at least two wheels on the ground at all times in my experience.

 

[Sidebrowns]

the PD sound effect department nailed the level of excitement from the bored petrolhead crowd

Funny you should mention that because I also only managed bronze before quitting and thought the exact same thing.

(Admittedly with a car at the PP limit...)

 

[MadMax]

After about 100km in the BMW , my lap time is 1:36.290
I have a feeling this is gold-able , just barely. Same way as the Clio R.S. / Brands Hatch Indy Circuit.

Then about 10 laps in Scooby S206 NBR , 1:27.575 (The car is heavy and tries to launch off most of the time when on the edge.)

And first clean lap in FXX : 1:37.757 , hit'n run.

The turbo engine cars need to be short shifted.

S206 NBR was best when shifted at 7000-7250 rpm.
BMW - 2nd -> 3rd , stretch / rev to limiter . 3rd _> 4th shift before redline.

 

[StirlingMoose]

I've stuck with the WRX STi c spec 09 and managed 1:23.568 at the Matterhorn. I'm happy with the silver on this one. Gold is along way off and way beyond my ability. Tried a few other Subs but didn't find anything better. Also tried switching back to the S206 NBR and there's not much in it. My previous opinion about the WRX being faster was just down to me getting more used to the track.
Thanks to MadMax for the tip about short-shifting. Helped a lot.

 

[kremmen64]

Finally golded one of these with a stock motor - 1:20.954 iirc for 8,200 ish place lol with the S206 NBR scooby so well happy with that - one of my friends ghostly blue lines was a good pacesetter though

Dunno what happened with my post earlier - had to go afk and when I came back my internet had gone, but my post still registered.

 

[TangoR34]

Golded the Enzo: 1.37.613

TCS 2 and ABS 1 Otherwise I would never get it

 

[Vegard]

The turbo engine cars need to be short shifted.

S206 NBR was best when shifted at 7000-7250 rpm.
BMW - 2nd -> 3rd , stretch / rev to limiter . 3rd _> 4th shift before redline.

I'm interested to hear how you calculate this.
I always take a look at the curves before driving, keep an eye on the speedometer when shifting and then do a couple "calibration shifts" to try and visualize the thrust curves and figure out how to use the power most effectively.
Do you have any special tricks?

 

[MadMax]

I'm interested to hear how you calculate this.
I always take a look at the curves before driving, keep an eye on the speedometer when shifting and then do a couple "calibration shifts" to try and visualize the thrust curves and figure out how to use the power most effectively.
Do you have any special tricks?

Without looking at the power curve / checking rpm of peak power , I usually go by the feel. And in the Impreza case I knew already that those cars need to be short shifted.
The BMW , I am looking at the acceleration and top speed at the end of straiths / reaching the braking point (not using driving line for this).
I'm also trying to avoid dropping / revving too far from peak power , thus the difference between 2nd to 3rd vs 3rd to 4th in the BMW.