Suggestions for Sportsmanship improvements

[Kirkus04]

Im happy with the sportsmanship rating, it really holds people accountable for their actions. With that said, people do make mistakes - and thats expected.

Personally i'd like to see some adjustments for the sportsmanship system.
- If you accidentally bump someone off the track your sportsmanship rating goes down (this already works quite well)
- If you return the position to the player within a set amount of time, I think your rating should go back up.

Another example of good sportsmanship would be:
- If you're braking into a corner and you swerve off the track to avoid rear ending another vehicle your rating should also go up provided you didn't cut the corner and gain any advantage. You should not be penalised for this either.

On many occasions I've done exactly this, I've made a mistake and edged someone off the track, I would instantly return the position and go for the clean overtake in the next sector. The same goes for rear ending other players, as an example on NB GP, a group of 5 drivers braking hard into turn one, running 3 wide, the driver in front braked a little earlier than me, so I swerved out of track limits (wide line) to avoid the collision which could have ruined the race for the 3 drivers on the wide line.

Any other thoughts on mechanics PD could add to improve the SR system?

 

[Cfft555]

Returning position is interesting, but I feel this would be really hard to do. It you get punted off the track the person hit might drop 4-5 spots.

When game first came out I was getting penalties for the smallest of touches, going wide on corners etc, I don't think I have got one in the last 6 races, it feels a lot more realistic now and im pretty happy with the position it is in.

 

[Kirkus04]

Returning position is interesting, but I feel this would be really hard to do. It you get punted off the track the person hit might drop 4-5 spots.

I think my mindset is just in a different place when it comes to racing. Im not really in it to win, I'm in it for the clean racing, if I can race clean AND win thats an added bonus (i've won around 15 sport races so far), If the driver I knock off the road loses 5 positions, I let the other drivers past, and give the one I knocked the position in front of me.

 

[praiano63]

After the last chicane, i went of road in the grass without contact with the wall for a few seconds on Kyoto right now, this just slow me and i have lost 4 positions. Why the game should penalize me round 3 seconds if i have already lost position and time ??? After some goods finals laps, i take the first position but still with 2 seconds to pay so i finish 5th. This is a really stupid sanction. Not fair.

 

[V_G_H]

So today, Nurburgring gp, grade 3 cars 10 lap race in sport mode.

Early in the race me and another guy break away from everyone, for 8 laps we raced neck and neck changing positions several times, running solid consistent 2 minute laps. Then we caught up to the stragglers. First guy we passed easily, he let us go. Second guy, swerving all over the road to block, i see my chance and pass him, as the other guy went to pass him, the guy being lapped swerved over on a straightaway, bashing the other guy into the grass and effectively ruining the race. He rage quit.

I'm all alone now, we had 30 second gap on 3rd. Final lap on the second last straight away I'm lapping another guy, I carried much more speed out of a corner and was flying by him, when I was beside him he swerved over and tried to take me out. I saved it, got in front just to have him bump my bumper again in the corner, not hard, but enough to effect sportsmanship rating.

Well I won the race, by a lot, but my sportsmanship dropped because of all the lapping covfefe.

The worst part is they ruined the great race I had going on with the other dude.

Sportsmanship is a good idea, but when I'm lobbied with casuals and when I lap them they will do anything to hit me them where's the fairness in that

 

[Johnnypenso]

So today, Nurburgring gp, grade 3 cars 10 lap race in sport mode.

Early in the race me and another guy break away from everyone, for 8 laps we raced neck and neck changing positions several times, running solid consistent 2 minute laps. Then we caught up to the stragglers. First guy we passed easily, he let us go. Second guy, swerving all over the road to block, i see my chance and pass him, as the other guy went to pass him, the guy being lapped swerved over on a straightaway, bashing the other guy into the grass and effectively ruining the race. He rage quit.

I'm all alone now, we had 30 second gap on 3rd. Final lap on the second last straight away I'm lapping another guy, I carried much more speed out of a corner and was flying by him, when I was beside him he swerved over and tried to take me out. I saved it, got in front just to have him bump my bumper again in the corner, not hard, but enough to effect sportsmanship rating.

Well I won the race, by a lot, but my sportsmanship dropped because of all the lapping covfefe.

The worst part is they ruined the great race I had going on with the other dude.

Sportsmanship is a good idea, but when I'm lobbied with casuals and when I lap them they will do anything to hit me them where's the fairness in that

Anyone being lapped should be ghosted for this reason, same as anyone running backwards.

 

[Kirkus04]

Anyone being lapped should be ghosted for this reason, same as anyone running backwards.

Agreed a blue flag and/or ghosting system should be applied when dealing with back markers. I get it, passing a back marker is all part of racing, but in most cases the back marker has nothing to loose by blocking a driver from getting through.

My solution would be: back marker would get a blue flag when the lapping vehicle is within a certain distance of the driver, if the lapping driver stays within a predefined distance and the back marker doesn't give way within a set time the back marker would loose SR as well as ghost out. Possibly a slow mechanic could also be enforced?

 

[TCG]

After 1.5 weeks I’ve gone from the opinion of the SR system is completely broken to now a position of it works 90% of the time well. Partly because I am now racing in DR-A SR-A and partly because of the recent changes PD have made.

However, my biggest gripe since day one has been the SR penalty for getting a shunt in the back.

Just to show how flawed the “Rear Shunt” detection system is, I was racing this morning, having a great battle, clean and fair right to the last corner. On the entry to the final corner my finger slipped on the brake control, I missed my brake point and I plowed straight into my opponent that I had been racing since the first corner.

IT WAS MY FAULT 100%.

He did nothing wrong it was all me and my missed brake point and yet, I did not get an SR penalty. Worse yet, My opponent did, who again did nothing wrong.

At the end of the race on the timing screen I had a BLUE B and he had a RED B plus a 10 second penalty. He lost 2 places in the race plus a potentional downgrade in SR for doing nothing wrong and here I am, having been 100% at fault I gained a place for my mistake and had ZERO SR reprocusions.

Like I said, we had been racing clean since the first corner and the only way he would have ended up with a RED SR and a time penalty was for MY MISTAKE!

I am loving GT Sport and now that the dust has settled and the groupings have worked themselves out fairly well, it’s genrally a real blast every time I race but this one issue, which is so glaringly obvious needs to be fixed ASAP.

 

[Kirkus04]

After 1.5 weeks I’ve gone from the opinion of the SR system is completely broken to now a position of it works 90% of the time well. Partly because I am now racing in DR-A SR-A and partly because of the recent changes PD have made.

However, my biggest gripe since day one has been the SR penalty for getting a shunt in the back.

Just to show how flawed the “Rear Shunt” detection system is, I was racing this morning, having a great battle, clean and fair right to the last corner. On the entry to the final corner my finger slipped on the brake control, I missed my brake point and I plowed straight into my opponent that I had been racing since the first corner.

IT WAS MY FAULT 100%.

He did nothing wrong it was all me and my missed brake point and yet, I did not get an SR penalty. Worse yet, My opponent did, who again did nothing wrong.

At the end of the race on the timing screen I had a BLUE B and he had a RED B plus a 10 second penalty. He lost 2 places in the race plus a potentional downgrade in SR for doing nothing wrong and here I am, having been 100% at fault I gained a place for my mistake and had ZERO SR reprocusions.

Like I said, we had been racing clean since the first corner and the only way he would have ended up with a RED SR and a time penalty was for MY MISTAKE!

I am loving GT Sport and now that the dust has settled and the groupings have worked themselves out fairly well, it’s genrally a real blast every time I race but this one issue, which is so glaringly obvious needs to be fixed ASAP.

It would be really tricky to distinguish between a brake check and a shunt, but I do think this system could do with some tweaks. Over the last week they have seemed to improve the rear end detection, and its a lot less sensitive.

One great thing about the SR system at the moment is its helping drivers pay attention to other drivers, I tend to watch drivers in my rearview all the time, and if I see them torpedoing into a corner I make space for them to get it out of their system, and try my best to keep my distance for the rest of the race.

I guess this is true to real life as well, drivers where mostly cautious when racing near Maldonado those years back.