Who ever use's NA over Supercharger they shouldent NA might give you a lil more HP but The supercharger gives you more torque witch more torque equals faster recation of gettin out of a corner quicker and much better you need more torque in a car so you can get out of the corner so you can beat the oppsition so if you wanna use NA and your wonder why your car doesnt get out of the corner fast enough its because your car dosent have the torque it needs to get out of the corner So use Supercharger its always there unlike lil turbos where you have to wait for a sertan RPM to click in word of the wyze use Superchargers Over NA
Superchargers over NA
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errh. Been discussed previously. And tested:
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And while it is generally agreed that SCs are better than Turbos, and give a more useable spread over comparable NA tunes, the supercharger option is limited to only a certain number of cars, and in some of these cars, the supercharger tune isn't quite as powerful as the top level of turbo-tune.
I use an SC when it's available, but generally, go for NA.
HERE.
And while it is generally agreed that SCs are better than Turbos, and give a more useable spread over comparable NA tunes, the supercharger option is limited to only a certain number of cars, and in some of these cars, the supercharger tune isn't quite as powerful as the top level of turbo-tune.
I use an SC when it's available, but generally, go for NA.
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lol he keeps repeating himself over, sounds like hes stuttering while typing 
is that possible? anyway NA seems to give more overall advantage, i wood use supers in cars like the rx8 type s and rsx s
is that possible? anyway NA seems to give more overall advantage, i wood use supers in cars like the rx8 type s and rsx s
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YankeeRac3rlol he keeps repeating himself over, sounds like hes stuttering while typing
You "wood" use? LOL
The thing about SuperChargers and TurboChargers unlike NA, is they have lag(In real life, don't know if it simulates it in GT4) which sometimes will do more bad than good. Because the Supercharger runs off a belt and the TurboCharger runs off a sort of fan or turbine, which lags on start up... NA cars have none of that simply because it seeks air from different methods, mostly relying on a intercooler(If I'm correct).
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No... NA cars can't use intercoolers, only SC and TC cars can.
Turbocharged cars get turbo lag because it takes a certain amount of exhaust gas pressure to make the turbo spool up. In high powered applications, the amount of exhaust pressure needed to produce useable flow from a turbo is much higher, thus resulting in turbo lag, wherein you have a very sluggish engine in the rev range below which the turbo starts producing positive pressure.
On older turbos, like the Nissan R390 Road car, this is noticeable, and on high powered ones, like the Amuse CarbonR, it's irritating. On an LMP, a stage 4 turbo suffers a ridiculous amount of lag.
But in ordinary applications on modern cars with new turbochargers and twin-sequential turbos, lag is less of a problem.
With a supercharger, you get ABSOLUTELY no lag, as the SC works straight off of engine-drive speed. In real-life, SCs suffer greatly from parasitic power loss (as the SC drains power straight from the driveshaft) and heat-soak (from the speed of the screws pumping the air inside the SC), with modern SCs, many of these problems have been curtailed, but in real-life, SCs cannot USUALLY make more power than turbos (there are exceptions, but that's a general rule).
NA-modified cars rely on high compression and high revs to make power, like in F1. In real life, this would be impractical and more expensive to do on street cars than TC or SC modifications. Plus highly tuned NA engines can't run on street gas, won't idle well, and have a tendency to break. And we're only talking about 100% hp increases. In real life, many engines can be turbo'ed up to and beyond 100% and will stay street-able and undamaged (as long as it's tuned right).
In the game, you can't fit sequential twin turbos to many cars, thus most have horrendous turbo lag at Stage 4, thus supercharging is better, if you can get it, and if it produces as much power. NA Tune produces usable power in a more linear fashion, but usually doesn't make as much power as Turbo Tune. When it does, it's much, much better.
Turbocharged cars get turbo lag because it takes a certain amount of exhaust gas pressure to make the turbo spool up. In high powered applications, the amount of exhaust pressure needed to produce useable flow from a turbo is much higher, thus resulting in turbo lag, wherein you have a very sluggish engine in the rev range below which the turbo starts producing positive pressure.
On older turbos, like the Nissan R390 Road car, this is noticeable, and on high powered ones, like the Amuse CarbonR, it's irritating. On an LMP, a stage 4 turbo suffers a ridiculous amount of lag.
But in ordinary applications on modern cars with new turbochargers and twin-sequential turbos, lag is less of a problem.
With a supercharger, you get ABSOLUTELY no lag, as the SC works straight off of engine-drive speed. In real-life, SCs suffer greatly from parasitic power loss (as the SC drains power straight from the driveshaft) and heat-soak (from the speed of the screws pumping the air inside the SC), with modern SCs, many of these problems have been curtailed, but in real-life, SCs cannot USUALLY make more power than turbos (there are exceptions, but that's a general rule).
NA-modified cars rely on high compression and high revs to make power, like in F1. In real life, this would be impractical and more expensive to do on street cars than TC or SC modifications. Plus highly tuned NA engines can't run on street gas, won't idle well, and have a tendency to break. And we're only talking about 100% hp increases. In real life, many engines can be turbo'ed up to and beyond 100% and will stay street-able and undamaged (as long as it's tuned right).
In the game, you can't fit sequential twin turbos to many cars, thus most have horrendous turbo lag at Stage 4, thus supercharging is better, if you can get it, and if it produces as much power. NA Tune produces usable power in a more linear fashion, but usually doesn't make as much power as Turbo Tune. When it does, it's much, much better.
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Quit crackin' on the new guys!niky, take it easy on the newb... probably excited with the flame of discovery... or something.
Just because we haven't been sitting behind a screen of a computer doesn't mean we don't know as much as you about GT4! 
We've been too busy sitting behind the screen of a T.V. with it playing GT4. 
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Look, it's in the ToS that you should speak at least half decent grammar.Bob the car guyQuit crackin' on the new guys!
And yes there was no point to reviving this thread so I don't think it needs to carry on being open no more...
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NA is the best but ,the supercharger would be better if it was availible for more cars.
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Yes, natural aspiration = higher entry speed, turbo aspiration = better exit speed, supercharged = faster exits without lang meaning its possible to enter with higher speed.In my opinion NA is the best, as I like to enter fast maintain thoughout the corner and have my opponent (try) catch me at the exit.The battle reaches it's peak at the apex.ekmatt9
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theres lag time on superchargers actally in real life... haha
it takes a certaint amount of RPM to actually produce boost.
alot of turbos actually boost faster then Superchargers.
BUT this is only because alot of aftermarket superchargers are actually centrifugal superchargers (Vortech, Powerdyne, and Procharger's ect... ect.).
Rootblower superchargers for example the Cobalt SS and the Mustang Cobra 03/04 actually have Rootblower style supercharger. Rootblowers would boost increadble early. which is most likely the supercharger your thinking about and refering too.
but if you add a centrifugal supercharger the peak power of the supercharger would be simular to like a turbo and would be very high. On a Rootsblower the overall power of the car has alot of power but at high end the car would be no where near as strong as a Centrifugal supercharger and Turbo
it takes a certaint amount of RPM to actually produce boost.
alot of turbos actually boost faster then Superchargers.
BUT this is only because alot of aftermarket superchargers are actually centrifugal superchargers (Vortech, Powerdyne, and Procharger's ect... ect.).
Rootblower superchargers for example the Cobalt SS and the Mustang Cobra 03/04 actually have Rootblower style supercharger. Rootblowers would boost increadble early. which is most likely the supercharger your thinking about and refering too.
but if you add a centrifugal supercharger the peak power of the supercharger would be simular to like a turbo and would be very high. On a Rootsblower the overall power of the car has alot of power but at high end the car would be no where near as strong as a Centrifugal supercharger and Turbo
lol amp. To be honest superchargers are just as good, but if i have the chance to choose out of NA and superchargers, i would have to go for the NA, becuase of the xTrA BhP which can prove helpful sometimes.
