SuperGT (JGTC) to limit 600pp Tokyo R246, Which car?
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For a Takata Dome NSX try this setup:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5425591#post5425591
raVer
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I have raced SuperGT cars in several championships. The Loctite is a very good car but the NSX Takata Dome '03 (not the premium '06 model) is fractionally better. I won the race at Tokyo with a Takata at 607PP and my qual time was 1'31.5 (free run, no slipstream).
In the championship the Takata '03 had 607PP, the GTR 613PP, the Lexus 615PP, and all the other cars 618PP. The Takata was still the best car. If you use the Takata at 600PP and all the other uses the same PP, you will have a hugh unfair advantage. Same goes for the Loctite, but it just a tad slower than the Takata.
If you will use only 600PP for all cars, I would recommend you actually ban all standard NSXes. Then pick any premium GT-R. It's the best of the rest.
Btw, Tokyo is a bad general tuning track. Given its high speed corners, I fast set-up has a lot of oversteer built in. My Tokyo set-ups always ended up very unique, and the car was almost undrivable at other tracks with the Tokyo set-up.
In the championship the Takata '03 had 607PP, the GTR 613PP, the Lexus 615PP, and all the other cars 618PP. The Takata was still the best car. If you use the Takata at 600PP and all the other uses the same PP, you will have a hugh unfair advantage. Same goes for the Loctite, but it just a tad slower than the Takata.
If you will use only 600PP for all cars, I would recommend you actually ban all standard NSXes. Then pick any premium GT-R. It's the best of the rest.
Btw, Tokyo is a bad general tuning track. Given its high speed corners, I fast set-up has a lot of oversteer built in. My Tokyo set-ups always ended up very unique, and the car was almost undrivable at other tracks with the Tokyo set-up.
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chuyler1
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I've been running 1:35 flat in the ARTA NSX '06 (premium) and if I put all my best sectors together on fresh tires I might hit a 1:34.7. That's 600pp, stage 3 engine and chassis reinforcement (no turbo upgrade).
I've seen some videos online of quote-unquote stock SuperGT cars running as low as 1:33 but I'm not sure how they do it. Maybe I need to remove the stage 3 engine. I don't see where I can make that amount of time on the track except in a straight line. I already take turn 6 (the kink) WOT.
In any case, 1:35 was competitive enough to win my league race...even with a handicapped start. I started on RH tires while everyone else was on RM tires. The handicap was due to me winning the Fuji race by 30+ seconds. I qualified 6th (shows you how much competition there was) but pitted on lap 1 to switch to RS tires. It gave me a 35 second deficit but I made it to the front around lap 25 of a 36 lap race. Only challenge I had was shaking a Lexus off my tail. He wasn't running my lap times but he was close enough to catch me by turn 1 for about 3 laps until I nailed the final sector to prevent the draft. After that I coasted to a victory with a 15 second margin.
I've seen some videos online of quote-unquote stock SuperGT cars running as low as 1:33 but I'm not sure how they do it. Maybe I need to remove the stage 3 engine. I don't see where I can make that amount of time on the track except in a straight line. I already take turn 6 (the kink) WOT.
In any case, 1:35 was competitive enough to win my league race...even with a handicapped start. I started on RH tires while everyone else was on RM tires. The handicap was due to me winning the Fuji race by 30+ seconds. I qualified 6th (shows you how much competition there was) but pitted on lap 1 to switch to RS tires. It gave me a 35 second deficit but I made it to the front around lap 25 of a 36 lap race. Only challenge I had was shaking a Lexus off my tail. He wasn't running my lap times but he was close enough to catch me by turn 1 for about 3 laps until I nailed the final sector to prevent the draft. After that I coasted to a victory with a 15 second margin.
Guys,
Only to inform: I used the setup the praiano63 (I'm using Mobil 1 NSX # 64 - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5764979#post5764979 ) and I changed the brakes to 6/8 and height -08/00, my laps now in 1.32.6 to 1.34, is the way I wanted, but spend a lot of tire. The race is 20 laps on Sunday and asphalt real.
Thanks
Fabio
Only to inform: I used the setup the praiano63 (I'm using Mobil 1 NSX # 64 - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5764979#post5764979 ) and I changed the brakes to 6/8 and height -08/00, my laps now in 1.32.6 to 1.34, is the way I wanted, but spend a lot of tire. The race is 20 laps on Sunday and asphalt real.
Thanks
Fabio
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With a -8/0 ridehight, I would think you're eating a lot of front tires at the long fast corners at Tokyo (understeer). Try to lessen the difference between front/rear. I would also try a bit of rear negative toe, maybe -0.10, but it will depend on your downforce settings.
In my view, the key at Tokyo is to set up some oversteer to get better turn at the long fast corners, and then be a bit careful not to be too quick on the throttle out of the few slow corners. I think it will be faster and have more even front/rear tire wear.
In my view, the key at Tokyo is to set up some oversteer to get better turn at the long fast corners, and then be a bit careful not to be too quick on the throttle out of the few slow corners. I think it will be faster and have more even front/rear tire wear.
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