(Suspended) Shark's Muscle Mayhem Series Saturday Races Will run a lobby August 11 about 4pm central timeOpen

[Poolshark3436]

The first race weekend is planned for August 10th at around 3PM USA Central Time (may adjust a little based on interest and availability of drivers)

We would be doing 2 races a month or so working around a charity league I am that runs in the afternoon on Saturdays.

The ideal plan for this series would be to run 8 muscle cars and 8 pony cars every race with a championship for each class. With the possibility of having teams with a car or 2 in each class or just having teammates in the same class. This is something that will likely have a poll run to answer these questions with the people that end up joining.

Spoiler: Pony Car Race Series Rulebook

Pony Car Race Series Rulebook

GT7 Pony Car League Rule Book

1. Vehicle Eligibility:
- Only pony cars are eligible to compete in the GT7 Pony Car League. Specific eligible vehicles include:
- Firebird Trans Am 1978
- Dodge Super Bee 1970
- Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1969
- Ford Mustang Mach 1 1971
- Shelby G.T.350 1965
- Ford Mustang Boss 429 1969

2. Weight Limit:
- All vehicles must weigh at least 3000 pounds (1361 kg).

3. Vehicle Performance Limits:

• All vehicles can have a maximum horsepower of 360.
• PP Limit 591

4. Suspension:
- Stock, street & sport suspension are allowed.

5. Tires:

• All vehicles must use sports tires with all compounds allowed.
• Maximum tire size is 17 inches.
• Wide width allowed
• wide offset allowed

6. Transmission:
- Close ratio high, low, or stock transmission options are allowed.

7. Engine Modifications:

• Engine modifications are allowed, but must not exceed the 360 horsepower limit.
• Engine must be naturally aspirated

8. Aero Modifications:

• Type A or Type B rear wing preferred.
• If those are not available, custom low height wings with no end plates are permitted.
• Wide body kit is allowed.

9. Safety Equipment:
- All vehicles must have hood pins see below for hood pin style or as close as possible available

- All vehicles must have tow hook installed

10a. Race Format:

• 2 Races will be 20-25 minutes long.
• Second race in reverse of 1st race finishing order.

10a.1 Tracks
- Watkins Glen Short
- Watkins Glen Full
- Daytona Road Course
- Road Atlanta
- Trial Mountain
- Deep Forest
- Spa
- High Speed Ring

10b. Lobby Settings

• 3x tire wear
• 3x fuel usage
• Refueling rate of 4L/second.
• Grip reduction real
• Grid start with false start check
• Slipstream real
• Mechanical damage light
• Nitrous prohibited
• Engine swap prohibited
• Countersteering Assist prohibited
• ABS no limit
• Driving line assist no limit
• Traction Control prohibited
• Active Stability Management prohibited
• Autodrive prohibited
• Correction after collision off
• Ghosting off

10c. Penalties

• Car collision on
• Track limits weak
• Pit lane line cutting on
• Flag rules on
• Any violations of the rules will result in penalties, including disqualification from the race or suspension from the league.

11a. Livery Requirements

• United States Auto Club decal on at least 2 sides of the car.
• Number Board must be in the box area and be at least 44x44

- Windshield banner Number on the left side class/series large in middle and manufacturer name/logo on right

• Banner bottom should be 90-95 size, see official series color below(see muscle car section for image explaining it better)
• Number and series/class(50x30 size) must be visible on the back

- Pony series logo and windshield banner underline should be the official color of the pony car series, see below.

11b. Official Sponsors not required decals but no competing companies(Subject to change or removing)

• Hooker Headers
• Shell
• Comp Cams

11c. Tire sponsors allowed

• Goodyear
• Hoosier
• Mickey Thompson
• Cooper Tires
• BFGoodrich

12. Code of Conduct:
- All competitors must adhere to a code of conduct that promotes fair and respectful racing.

13. Amendments:
- The league organizers reserve the right to amend the rules at any time to ensure fair competition and safety.

14. Points
1st place: 25 points
2nd place: 22 points
3rd place: 19 points
4th place: 16 points
5th place: 14 points
6th place: 12 points
7th place: 10 points
8th place: 9 points
9th place: 8 points
10th place: 7 points
11th place: 6 points
12th place: 5 points
13th place: 4 points
14th place: 3 points
15th place: 2 points
16th place: 1 point

Pole +2 points for first race only
Fastest Lap +1 point

By participating in the GT7 Pony Car League, competitors agree to abide by the rules and regulations outlined in this rule book. Failure to do so may result in penalties or disqualification.

Spoiler: Muscle Car Race Series Rulebook

Muscle Car Race Series Rulebook

GT7 Muscle Car League Rule Book

1. Vehicle Eligibility:
- Only muscle cars are eligible to compete in the GT7 Muscle Car League. Specific eligible vehicles include:
- Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 Sport Coupé '70
- Dodge Super Bee 1970
- Dodge Challenger R/T '70
- Dodge Charger R/T 426 Hemi '68
- Plymouth Superbird '70
- Ford Mustang Boss 429 1969
- Pontiac GTO 'The Judge' '69

2. Weight Limit:
- All vehicles must weigh at least 3501 pounds (1588 kg).

3. Vehicle Performance Limits:
- PP Limit 680

4. Suspension:
- All suspensions are allowed.

5. Tires:

• All tire types are allowed
• Maximum tire size is 17 inches.
• Wide width allowed
• wide offset allowed

6. Transmission:
- All transmission options are allowed.

7. Engine Modifications:

• Engine modifications are allowed
• Engine must be naturally aspirated

8. Aero Modifications:

• Type A or Type B rear wing preferred.
• If those are not available, custom low height wings with no end plates are permitted.
• Wide body kit is allowed.

9. Safety Equipment:
- All vehicles must have hood pins see below for hood pin style or as close as possible available

- All vehicles must have tow hook installed

10a. Race Format:

• 2 Races will be 20-25 minutes long.
• Second race in reverse of 1st race finishing order.

10a.1 Tracks
- Watkins Glen Short
- Watkins Glen Full
- Daytona Road Course
- Road Atlanta
- Trial Mountain
- Deep Forest
- Spa
- High Speed Ring

10b. Lobby Settings

• 3x tire wear
• 3x fuel usage
• Refueling rate of 4L/second.
• Grip reduction real
• Grid start with false start check
• Slipstream real
• Mechanical damage light
• Nitrous prohibited
• Engine swap prohibited
• Countersteering Assist prohibited
• ABS no limit
• Driving line assist no limit
• Traction Control prohibited
• Active Stability Management prohibited
• Autodrive prohibited
• Correction after collision off
• Ghosting off

10c. Penalties

• Car collision on
• Track limits weak
• Pit lane line cutting on
• Flag rules on
• Any violations of the rules will result in penalties, including disqualification from the race or suspension from the league.

11a. Livery Requirements

• United States Auto Club decal on at least 2 sides of the car.
• Number Board must be in the box area and be at least 44x44

- Windshield banner Number on the left side class/series large in middle and manufacturer name/logo on right

• Banner bottom should be 90-95 size, see official series color below
• Number and series/class(50x30 size) must be visible on the back

- Pony series logo and windshield banner underline should be the official color of the pony car series, see below.

11b. Official Sponsors not required decals but no competing companies(Subject to change or removing)

• Hooker Headers
• Shell
• Comp Cams

11c. Tire sponsors allowed

• Goodyear
• Hoosier
• Mickey Thompson
• Cooper Tires
• BFGoodrich

12. Code of Conduct:
- All competitors must adhere to a code of conduct that promotes fair and respectful racing.

13. Amendments:
- The league organizers reserve the right to amend the rules at any time to ensure fair competition and safety.

14. Points
1st place: 25 points
2nd place: 22 points
3rd place: 19 points
4th place: 16 points
5th place: 14 points
6th place: 12 points
7th place: 10 points
8th place: 9 points
9th place: 8 points
10th place: 7 points
11th place: 6 points
12th place: 5 points
13th place: 4 points
14th place: 3 points
15th place: 2 points
16th place: 1 point

Pole +2 points for first race only

Fastest Lap +1 point

By participating in the GT7 Pony Car League, competitors agree to abide by the rules and regulations outlined in this rule book. Failure to do so may result in penalties or disqualification.

 

[Cold Warrior]

I recommend standard tire compound with a PP limit. Never really liked that softer tires the same tire group increases your PP rating. Softer tires are not always an advantage. Grip levels for this time period. I would go with Sports Hards. As for branding you can claim Goodyear all you want. Tires in GT7 are officially base on Michelin tire compounds. And custom brakes are Brembo. So yes the tires are French and the brakes Italian.

 

[Poolshark3436]

I recommend standard tire compound with a PP limit. Never really liked that softer tires the same tire group increases your PP rating. Softer tires are not always an advantage. Grip levels for this time period. I would go with Sports Hards. As for branding you can claim Goodyear all you want. Tires in GT7 are officially base on Michelin tire compounds. And custom brakes are Brembo. So yes the tires are French and the brakes Italian.

I did my testing with the soft compounds and was getting pretty close lap times across all the cars in each class. My thought on leaving it open to all compounds of sport for pony and all race for muscle was to let drivers play with where they want to focus their PP. I also thought of just making it medium compound only. So I’m open to the community’s feedback.

I do understand that the sponsorships don’t change the actual brands of the tires or brakes. I was going with some of the race cars might have been from barn finds or survivors from the 60s-70s and the series was kind of taking place in the early-mid 90s and at least around me guys driving cars like these or racing locally would have been buy American types. That being said I’m open to relaxing/eliminating any sponsorship restrictions.

 

[Cold Warrior]

I did my testing with the soft compounds and was getting pretty close lap times across all the cars in each class. My thought on leaving it open to all compounds of sport for pony and all race for muscle was to let drivers play with where they want to focus their PP. I also thought of just making it medium compound only. So I’m open to the community’s feedback.

I do understand that the sponsorships don’t change the actual brands of the tires or brakes. I was going with some of the race cars might have been from barn finds or survivors from the 60s-70s and the series was kind of taking place in the early-mid 90s and at least around me guys driving cars like these or racing locally would have been buy American types. That being said I’m open to relaxing/eliminating any sponsorship restrictions.

I knew you want you series branding to look professional but, I going to suggest throw that entirely. Not everyone has the time or patience to put the precisely install custom number plates and series markings. Some people just want to race. I didn't run any custom liveries this season myself.

The only reason asked players to the light cover mandate. To try to reduce the chances of Gr.1 and Gr.3 incidences in low visibility conditions. Other than I just ask players not to run something that will could get us in trouble and not to offend others players or Ferrari. I don't want to be the reason why someone pull their licensing.

I'm just making sure you understand what is what. Personally I like and support seeing these real world companies actually provide PDI data for their products to be used in Gran Turismo. And you know contribute more to the game than just money. This next update is supposed to include a tire psychics update. Meaning Michelin and PDI are still working on the tire models.

Why not the Dodge Challenger? It was used SCCA road racing. Which is kind of what I thought you were going for. By the way the Firebird can get to 360hp with installing supercharger?

 

[Poolshark3436]

I knew you want you series branding to look professional but, I going to suggest throw that entirely. Not everyone has the time or patience to put the precisely install custom number plates and series markings. Some people just want to race. I didn't run any custom liveries this season myself.

The only reason asked players to the light cover mandate. To try to reduce the chances of Gr.1 and Gr.3 incidences in low visibility conditions. Other than I just ask players not to run something that will could get us in trouble and not to offend others players or Ferrari. I don't want to be the reason why someone pull their licensing.

I'm just making sure you understand what is what. Personally I like and support seeing these real world companies actually provide PDI data for their products to be used in Gran Turismo. And you know contribute more to the game than just money. This next update is supposed to include a tire psychics update. Meaning Michelin and PDI are still working on the tire models.

Why not the Dodge Challenger? It was used SCCA road racing. Which is kind of what I thought you were going for. By the way the Firebird can get to 360hp with installing supercharger?

I would offer to help with liveries and I actually have every car with the number board and the other required things already made so any just wanting a basic car could just get it from me and I could put the number they want.

Yes the newest update makes me a bit nervous about the liveries especially with the tires, I always go with Goodyear on my cars.

I might have missed the Challenger, it’s allowed actually it’s the muscle car in the pictures I believe.

I can’t remember the exact power I got it to but it was in competitive with the others and right at the PP limit with the power I got it to.

 

[Poolshark3436]

Because of lack of interest this will be suspended. Also with the update there are a few issues with doing setups and I have noticed a couple of the Muscle Cars might be affected by the glitch.

However I will try to host lobbies when I can around the planned time on Saturdays. I also have a discord if anyone wants to join it. https://discord.gg/cCXrreW2

If anyone reading wants more info just reach out here or discord. Also can show what I have installed on any car and also the setup(although I am not great at doing setups, so that might not be as helpful as you think.)

 

[Poolshark3436]

Idk if anyone is following this thread but I plan on opening a lobby to drive these cars in. Don’t need to be completely to the rules in the book. Plan is to run a few races in the pony cars and a few in the muscle cars. So as long as you fit the PP and weight limits in each you will be good. The pony cars have a power limit to meet as well.

Lobby will be open to all but if you want to add me my PSN is poolshark3436

 

[Cold Warrior]

Hey guys I wish to announce the my 2025 Group C World Endurance League. This is the 3rd season of my flagship league. Running Sats Jan to Jun. The league focuses on pro level sport car endurance racing. This year I'm running as a Group C exclusive league. GT7 offers 5 cars from this era. The Jaguar XJR-9, Mazda 787B, Mercedes C9, Nissan R92CP, and Porsche 962C bought from legends. Currently planning on 16 races of various length up to a maximum 2 hours. Checkout Post 2 in my forum for further details.