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Well I was watching Top Gear tonight, and I was watching the episode where Jeremy at the end talks about driving in a game and driving in real life. He took out a latest-gen NSX around Laguna Seca, and managed a 1:41.x in GT4. He then actually went to Laguna Seca, explained and showed how the Corkscrew was quite scary, and proceeded to take a NSX around the track.
His first run was a 2:01.x . Have a long way to go Jeremy.
He then tried some more, couldn't really improve, and went back to playing in GT4 to see what he was doing in the game. It appears that in the game, he was able to control the throttle and brake throughout a corner with no problems whereas he couldn't do that in real life. Also it looked like the car had better braking.
Anyway, he went around the track again, did a 1:59, decided that he couldn't replicate the game in real life, and then did a final run, which was supposedly quite good by his standards, but it was still only a 1:57, far away from the 1:41 in GT4. His conclusion was that in real life, that fear factor is so much bigger, and the forces the car makes on you that you just can't go that fast. He said that 1:41 is probably possible in the car, but that only a race driver would probably manage that.
Anyway, the show ended, and I decided to try it out in GT4 myself. Chose time trial in arcade mode, chose the NSX Type R '02 (awesome car BTW 👍 ), and went to Laguna Seca. I also chose "Comfort" tyres (N2) and I left the aids off.
I proceeded to get onto the track. First impression, the car drifted quite a bit. It needed to be careful through the first corner, and quite a lot of screaming from the tyres. First couple of laps, about 5 or so, I was desperately trying to get around his 1:41. Was going off track at several points, though I didn't have any crashes.
Then one lap I managed 1:44 (though I went just a tad offtrack on the outside at the Corkscrew). Even though I didn't experience the g-forces and all that, I still found the car pretty hard to control throughout the corners. There was a lot of oversteer, and you really had to left off and cruise through the corners (so it seemed). And on the 1:44 lap, I really gave it on most of the corners (used all of the track) and used all the side skirts on the road, really gave it a push. It still had some time left it, probably coulda done a 1:42, maybe even 1:41.
Anyway, after the 1:44 lap, I gave it some more push on the next lap, and went off track twice, so my lap was much slower.
After that crappy lap, I decided to give it one final go, and try and drive careful and not so risky like Jeremy would on the real track. I recalled that on the kink on the front straight he said it was much much scarier in real life taking at full throttle, and that if you'd play with the brakes and throttle throughout the corners the car would lose it. Sure enough, going into the kink with full throttle this time, I decided to let off the gas throut it. What came was... well, uhm..
... the car just lost it completely. And when I say completely, I mean it just oversteered madly coasting out of the kink, and went into a slide. And when it did a slide, it did the full 1080 degrees (most likely more!! ). On that lap, I figured I might as well pretend as it would be in real life and that I would ease off the pushing in the corners and be more cautious. Sure enough, that intense spin just.. I was watching the mirror as the car was spinning madly, it scared the **** out of me. I could see the concrete wall going past in my mirrors. I was hoping I wouldn't end up in the wall at the end of the straight.
Sure enough, hitting the brakes hard during the spin did cause a big racket, but the car did manage to stop, and it stopped right on the track where the first turn starts. That incident left me.. well it left me thinking that GT4 really is quite accurate, and it's really what you make of it. I decided to use the N2 tyres instead of the sport ones and try to be more cautious like in rea life. What jeremy said about losing the car seems about right.
The whole incident left me impressed with GT4 in the end, albeit a bit scared. This was basically me before the spin (as i started last lap), during the spin, when the car finally came to stop and a few moments later ->
On a side note, one of the previous "crappy" laps where I did push it but the car backfired on me was 1:54, not too bad in terms of being close to Jeremy's 1:57.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed reading that. If I get a decent response, I may go and try the same thing in Forza Motorsport, just to see the laptime and how that handles.
His first run was a 2:01.x . Have a long way to go Jeremy.
He then tried some more, couldn't really improve, and went back to playing in GT4 to see what he was doing in the game. It appears that in the game, he was able to control the throttle and brake throughout a corner with no problems whereas he couldn't do that in real life. Also it looked like the car had better braking.
Anyway, he went around the track again, did a 1:59, decided that he couldn't replicate the game in real life, and then did a final run, which was supposedly quite good by his standards, but it was still only a 1:57, far away from the 1:41 in GT4. His conclusion was that in real life, that fear factor is so much bigger, and the forces the car makes on you that you just can't go that fast. He said that 1:41 is probably possible in the car, but that only a race driver would probably manage that.
Anyway, the show ended, and I decided to try it out in GT4 myself. Chose time trial in arcade mode, chose the NSX Type R '02 (awesome car BTW 👍 ), and went to Laguna Seca. I also chose "Comfort" tyres (N2) and I left the aids off.
I proceeded to get onto the track. First impression, the car drifted quite a bit. It needed to be careful through the first corner, and quite a lot of screaming from the tyres. First couple of laps, about 5 or so, I was desperately trying to get around his 1:41. Was going off track at several points, though I didn't have any crashes.
Then one lap I managed 1:44 (though I went just a tad offtrack on the outside at the Corkscrew). Even though I didn't experience the g-forces and all that, I still found the car pretty hard to control throughout the corners. There was a lot of oversteer, and you really had to left off and cruise through the corners (so it seemed). And on the 1:44 lap, I really gave it on most of the corners (used all of the track) and used all the side skirts on the road, really gave it a push. It still had some time left it, probably coulda done a 1:42, maybe even 1:41.
Anyway, after the 1:44 lap, I gave it some more push on the next lap, and went off track twice, so my lap was much slower.
After that crappy lap, I decided to give it one final go, and try and drive careful and not so risky like Jeremy would on the real track. I recalled that on the kink on the front straight he said it was much much scarier in real life taking at full throttle, and that if you'd play with the brakes and throttle throughout the corners the car would lose it. Sure enough, going into the kink with full throttle this time, I decided to let off the gas throut it. What came was... well, uhm..
... the car just lost it completely. And when I say completely, I mean it just oversteered madly coasting out of the kink, and went into a slide. And when it did a slide, it did the full 1080 degrees (most likely more!! ). On that lap, I figured I might as well pretend as it would be in real life and that I would ease off the pushing in the corners and be more cautious. Sure enough, that intense spin just.. I was watching the mirror as the car was spinning madly, it scared the **** out of me. I could see the concrete wall going past in my mirrors. I was hoping I wouldn't end up in the wall at the end of the straight.Sure enough, hitting the brakes hard during the spin did cause a big racket, but the car did manage to stop, and it stopped right on the track where the first turn starts. That incident left me.. well it left me thinking that GT4 really is quite accurate, and it's really what you make of it. I decided to use the N2 tyres instead of the sport ones and try to be more cautious like in rea life. What jeremy said about losing the car seems about right.
The whole incident left me impressed with GT4 in the end, albeit a bit scared. This was basically me before the spin (as i started last lap), during the spin, when the car finally came to stop and a few moments later ->
On a side note, one of the previous "crappy" laps where I did push it but the car backfired on me was 1:54, not too bad in terms of being close to Jeremy's 1:57.
Anyway, I hope you enjoyed reading that. If I get a decent response, I may go and try the same thing in Forza Motorsport, just to see the laptime and how that handles.
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