tandem problems, help please!!!

[gamerone00]

ok i would like to say that i am in a team and yes im a good "solo" drifter but i have problems matching speed in tandem and i need help.also when i see someone when i chase them i get as close as possible but i never brake in time which leads to me going too fast or trying to brake as hard as possible,witch leads to my car getting bitchslapped out of the way. so can i have some help?

 

[anthaliscious]

It all takes time in figuring out your mistakes, if you havent already use comfort hard or medium tires, and a way I really practice is to go into Practice mode on any track and do a clean solo lap, then when you set that lap youre ghost for the lap will appear. From there just practice tandeming with youre ghost car 👍

 

[gamerone00]

It all takes time in figuring out your mistakes, if you havent already use comfort hard or medium tires, and a way I really practice is to go into Practice mode on any track and do a clean solo lap, then when you set that lap youre ghost for the lap will appear. From there just practice tandeming with youre ghost car 👍

thanks, but i think if i was using comfort softs or mediums i would be in trouble by my team, lol

 

[PinaKillada]

ok i would like to say that i am in a team and yes im a good "solo" drifter but i have problems matching speed in tandem and i need help.also when i see someone when i chase them i get as close as possible but i never brake in time which leads to me going too fast or trying to brake as hard as possible,witch leads to my car getting bitchslapped out of the way. so can i have some help?

Wheel or controller? Also try setting your brakes 0 front 2 rear and feather the brake as you need it, try anticipate what line their taking and speed match them in if your gunning it tho it wont work

 

[Bluntified]

Use your throttle! Don't give full throttle all the time. You should be adapting to the leader car. If you can't figure out and see how his style is, all is lost. Some people use e breaks and some don't, you need to look for this.

Another point of advise is to try and keep up with the for a lap THEN try getting in closer. I always do a car length distance on the first lap unless I know their style (hard, slow, ebreaks, tight angles, no angles, etc.).

I tend to use a bit more breaking on corners as most people I run with use a bit if e break on hairpins and tight corners.

 

[gamerone00]

Wheel or controller? Also try setting your brakes 0 front 2 rear and feather the brake as you need it, try anticipate what line their taking and speed match them in if your gunning it tho it wont work

i drift ds3 but i have a dfgt, problem is i cant use it till i get a table for it and i cant drift with a wheel, YET

 

[Olegonic]

All we try to do in our tandems is just to be like best drifters in D1 and Formula Drift competitions. There are only 50-60 Best drifters, who take a part in it.
We are 200-500 who want to tandem. We do not match each other like they do. They are TOP Drifters who made thier way up through practice in years and when they meet on track thier skills are similar. Speed, angles, transitions.
When each of us would reach the highest possible level of drifting it will not be a problem for tandeming, because that high level will be the same for you and me in a way of perfomance on track. Then we can meet and tandem without any problems to adjust to each other.
If Nomuken or Kawabata possibly tandem with me in a real life, it would be just VERY difficult for them to match me if they follow. Drift is thier job and life, my drift in real life is a cosual event. Even if someone spent 2-3 years drifting, there will be several more, who can always do it beter. But it's not much left for them to improve, and a lot for who just started and after 10 years they will match.
Like in a drift trial, top 10-20 GT5 drifters have almost the same speed and angles and driving line, because it's only the way to get maximum points.

 

[gamerone00]

All we try to do in our tandems is just to be like best drifters in D1 and Formula Drift competitions. There are only 50-60 Best drifters, who take a part in it.
We are 200-500 who want to tandem. We do not match each other like they do. They are TOP Drifters who made thier way up through practice in years and when they meet on track thier skills are similar. Speed, angles, transitions.
When each of us would reach the highest possible level of drifting it will not be a problem for tandeming, because that high level will be the same for you and me in a way of perfomance on track. Then we can meet and tandem without any problems to adjust to each other.
If Nomuken or Kawabata possibly tandem with me in a real life, it would be just VERY difficult for them to match me if they follow. Drift is thier job and life, my drift in real life is a cosual event. Even if someone spent 2-3 years drifting, there will be several more, who can always do it beter. But it's not much left for them to improve, and a lot for who just started and after 10 years they will match.
Like in a drift trial, top 10-20 GT5 drifters have almost the same speed and angles and driving line, because it's only the way to get maximum points.

well this is very true and i did enjoy reading this, there was no tips therefor i think you didn't read the title of the post.

 

[sidewaysfordays]

You need to be easing off the throttle in anticipation of the up coming transition in order to space yourself enough back for the lead car's rear end to swing across your bow without hitting. Alternatively try using your e-brake instead of pedal (reg.) brakes to control speed when following. Note you can keep the throttle depressed when tapping your e-brake so you don't drop too far back. When the lead car's back end clears it's up to you to be on the throttle before him to maintain the gap.

 

[Powellx235]

All we try to do in our tandems is just to be like best drifters in D1 and Formula Drift competitions. There are only 50-60 Best drifters, who take a part in it.
We are 200-500 who want to tandem. We do not match each other like they do. They are TOP Drifters who made thier way up through practice in years and when they meet on track thier skills are similar. Speed, angles, transitions.
When each of us would reach the highest possible level of drifting it will not be a problem for tandeming, because that high level will be the same for you and me in a way of perfomance on track. Then we can meet and tandem without any problems to adjust to each other.
If Nomuken or Kawabata possibly tandem with me in a real life, it would be just VERY difficult for them to match me if they follow. Drift is thier job and life, my drift in real life is a cosual event. Even if someone spent 2-3 years drifting, there will be several more, who can always do it beter. But it's not much left for them to improve, and a lot for who just started and after 10 years they will match.
Like in a drift trial, top 10-20 GT5 drifters have almost the same speed and angles and driving line, because it's only the way to get maximum points.

That's not really true. All of them have proper jobs.. They only really drift their pro cars at events.

But I have something to add. Tandeming in GT5 is actually a fair bit harder than real lift for a few reasons:

1. The physics are a good bit off. When you lift off/brake the back end should stay out for a certain amount of time depending on speed.
2. the handbrake isnt the same in GT5 as in real life. In real life it extends your drift while barely slowing down. e.g. If I handbrake in GT5 from 60mph to 0 it would take but a few seconds. If I were to do that in real life, it would take somciderably longer.
3. In GT5 When you let go of the handbrake, it upsets the balance of the car and it wants to straighten out, but seeing as you have a proper clutch in real life, you can keep the balance because you wont have to make big steering changes as you can clutch kick and the revs will jump up.
4. In real life they have the brakes set to the front or mostly to the front. This allows them to brake while keeping the wheels spinning and bring the cars pace down a bit. If you do this in GT5 you have next to no steering, and aswell the revs drop and you have to slam on the brakes if you want to slow down more than a small bit.

 

[gamerone00]

You need to be easing off the throttle in anticipation of the up coming transition in order to space yourself enough back for the lead car's rear end to swing across your bow without hitting. Alternatively try using your e-brake instead of pedal (reg.) brakes to control speed when following. Note you can keep the throttle depressed when tapping your e-brake so you don't drop too far back. When the lead car's back end clears it's up to you to be on the throttle before him to maintain the gap.

thanks i tried to do this when i was tandeming with a random and i found i was holding my own and still getting good angle while i was watching the speed not to over do it

 

[Stavingo]

I'd suggest watching your tandem partners lines and trying to get a feel for them as well, knowing braking/accelerating points are also a positive in a tandem.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

One point becomes clear, to close up a gap into a tight corner use your handbrake! It will hold your angle and slow you nicely to the other car. Just remember that your car is unstable, and you should get back on the power as soon as you can.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

It all takes time in figuring out your mistakes, if you havent already use comfort hard or medium tires, and a way I really practice is to go into Practice mode on any track and do a clean solo lap, then when you set that lap youre ghost for the lap will appear. From there just practice tandeming with youre ghost car 👍

Quote for truth. I do it a lot also...

More than about brakes and distance adjustments, it demands a really sharp finesse to work with brakes, e-brakes, throtle and every technique in hands to match the partner´s triangle, predict the pace, copy the lines, feel the distance in the "blind spots", manji correctly at every change of side...

Well, tandem is not a simple thing, and thats why its amazing. If it would be simple or easy, there wouldn´t still people here with all gas after more than 1 year of GT5.

 

[Team THRT Drift]

Id like to add something to these great tips (no irony/sarcasm). Try shifting down at the beginning of every corner, this slows your car and helps in angle. In the middle of your "slide" shift up, causing you to get more drift and angle. NOTE: This has to be done quickly! Or you'll end up slammin the wall.

Repeat this at every corner when necessary. Ie: Suzuka East, Deep Forest, Tsukuba... Control your throttle!

If you feel that your car is sliding away, shift down immediately! Brake, give it the full throttle to kick the back out, and continue the chase.

AGAIN: This has to be done quickly! Unless you want to pay 30,000 credits in chassis damage.

Tap the e- brake at hairpins, and control your throttle to avoid spin- outs and embarressments.

If you want, me and you can drift sometime and show you what im talking about. Its hard to explain in words, you need to see and do this yourself.

My offer is up for everyone else...

Anyway, hope this helps.

Peace! Team THRT, always there to help...

 

[Olegonic]

I can also suggest that first driver whom you follow, would stay in the middle of the track, not clipping the points. So you have more space to move in or out if you make mistakes while practicing.
I did it this way when tandem with my friend and I should say that it really helps in the beginning.

 

[twitcher]

I can also suggest that first driver whom you follow, would stay in the middle of the track, not clipping the points. So you have more space to move in or out if you make mistakes while practicing.
I did it this way when tandem with my friend and I should say that it really helps in the beginning.

This is very true. I think most people think that tandeming is all about the second car...ie that it's up to the follower to make the tandem happen. A good lead car can make all the difference in the world, especially when learning.

Having the lead car ease up just the slightest can help the chase car close the distance easier (instead of the chase car needing to mash the throttle).

Also, like you said, it makes things much easier if the lead car takes a slightly wider line. Still follow the proper line, but stay maybe 2-3 feet off the clipping points. This gives the chase car much more room to maneuver. Also, and I might be wrong about this, but in a tandem comp, isn't the lead car required to leave at least part of the inside line open? I remember reading somewhere on these forums that the lead car is not allowed to completely close off the inside line.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

Yeah, i agree about that...

Ok that a chaser have most responsability if any touch happens, but in fact there are leading cars that simply dont know or dont like to be chased closely. They dont know nothing about wider lines, courtesy launches, or even self-defense to avoid a chaser´s hit. Its annoying when you are at Suzuka East and the leading car start to eat the zebras, not giving any room for triangle. Some leading cars simply gets desperated when they are being chased and start to run even faster with even lower angles, cutting the apexes...

 

[Olegonic]

I think we have found THE MAIN answer and solution for tandem chasing cars problems.
A lot depends on the LEAD car firstly and secondly, chasing car.
Lead car makes the rythm, wich might be easy or difficult to follow.

 

[iNs3CuRe]

ok i would like to say that i am in a team and yes im a good "solo" drifter but i have problems matching speed in tandem and i need help.also when i see someone when i chase them i get as close as possible but i never brake in time which leads to me going too fast or trying to brake as hard as possible,witch leads to my car getting bitchslapped out of the way. so can i have some help?

Learn to predict stuff, braking zones etc Dont get too concentrated on the car in front of you. All you need is practice.

 

[twitcher]

Learn to predict stuff, braking zones etc Don't get too concentrated on the car in front of you All you need is practice.

Another great piece of advice. I am completely guilty of this myself, and am practicing on this specifically.

As the chase car, don't completely focus on the lead car, and try to mimic its exact actions. Doing so will most likely cause you to miss your own transition and breaking zones, which will cause you to plow into the lead car.

Focus on driving your own line. This is why a good lead car is so important. If the leader is also a competent drifter, or someone you are familiar with, you should be able to drive your line without really worrying about what the lead car is doing. If the leader is hitting his marks properly, and leaving a bit a of the inside line open, and you are concentrating on hitting your marks (timely transitions and hitting your breaking zones), then you shouldn't really have to worry about hitting the lead car.

Crashes usually happen when either the chase car enters the corner too fast, or the lead car enters too slow / scrubs off too much speed.

 

[SKIDMARX]

I always go off the saying "JUDGEMENT TIME......ONCE YOU GO........LEAD CAR. CHASE CAR.......... ...JUST STICK IT IN THEIR DOOR REALLY". Shane Lynch, Team Japspeed If you hit someone... hey it's only a game.

 

[che69velle]

0ne ? are you team tandeming or just shadowing? if your doing tandem you work as a team and ballance accordingly, shadowing your just going door to door for a mock tandem as a chaser. talk with your leader and work together to get a rythum. and try to ballance your cars, an ae86 isn't gonna chase down an rx7 in this game if the rotary doesn't pace for you.