Tata Nano unveiled in India.

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Tata Motors has unveiled the world's cheapest motor car at India's biggest car show in the capital, Delhi.

The vehicle, called the Tata Nano, will sell for 100,000 rupees or $2,500 (£1,277) and enable those in developing countries to move to four wheels.

The four-door five-seater car, which goes on sale later this year, has a 33bhp, 624cc, engine at the rear.

It has no air conditioning, no electric windows and no power steering, but two deluxe models will be on offer.

Cheap (£1277, $2500), probably really bad, think it will ever come out of India?
 
Wait, Rupees are a REAL MONETARY UNIT?

I could make so many bad Legend of Zelda jokes, (As Rupees are the monetary unit in game, but they're little crystals,) but I'll leave it at that...don't want to offend anyone.

I doubt that car'll come to any country with a decent safety standard, interstate-type highways, or a large used car market. As it stands, my 78 HP '88 Nova is a better deal at $1,000, with power steering, power brakes, the ability to go 65 MPH, and '80s Toyota reliability.
 
I would imagine seeing the car in China and maybe Africa, but not much outside there. And no way will I tolerate a 33 hp car coming to this country.
 
For £1200 you can buy a cheap reliable Fiesta/Micra here in the UK. I have seen similar small cars here in the UK which sounds like lawn mowers.
 
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Family transport'

At the unveiling ceremony Mr Tata said: "I observed families riding on two-wheelers - the father driving the scooter, his young kid standing in front of him, his wife seated behind him holding a little baby.

"It led me to wonder whether one could conceive of a safe, affordable, all-weather form of transport for such a family.

"Tata Motors' engineers and designers gave their all for about four years to realise this goal.

"Today, we indeed have a People's Car, which is affordable and yet built to meet safety requirements and emission norms, to be fuel efficient and low on emissions."

Ravi Vangala, of Hyderbad, India, said: "I... congratulate Tata for his dream, and I will definitely buy the Tata Nano car."


seriously a car is much better than that
 
It's fine for India. just not the United Interstates of America. Mr. Tata is sorely mistaken if he can unload a car like that on the U.S. when much more powerful, luxurious vehicles sit in used car lots.

Otherwise, it sounds like the original Beetle and the Model T in concept: a "People's Car" to get a struggling country on it's feet. Hopefully, it's reliable, too.
 
I think its good, just because its too basic for our standards doesnt mean its rubbish. Will people buying these give a toss that it doesnt have air conditioning, electric windows or power steering? No.
All it really needs to be is reliable, easy to maintain and good on fuel.
 
Well, Tata's track record for Quality is better than the Chinese automakers. I guess, given it's application, it'll do well.
 
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This is a HUGE leap forward for Tata, and I wish them the best with it. Surely I do not wish to have yet another popular car to suck up "our oil," but alas, this is a much better alternative by comparison to a motorbike or even in some cases, a Tut-Tut.
 
What is that taxicab? If anything, I don't think it'll be too relevant to this car. at least, I hope not.

The photograph kind of does give the impression that the car's somewhat flimsy. I would think the vehicle would be a little beefier, especially suspension-wise, given the severe conditions it might be driving in.
 
Yahoo has an article on it, now, and it looks like at least one version of the car gets body-color bumpers and nice alloys.

NEW DELHI - India's Tata Motors on Thursday unveiled the world's cheapest car, a $2,500 four-door subcompact the company promises will revolutionize the auto industry by bringing car ownership within reach for tens of millions of people.

The potential impact of Tata's Nano has given environmentalist nightmares, with visions of the tiny cars clogging India's already-choked roads and collectively spewing millions of tons of carbon dioxide into the air.

Industry analysts, however, say the car may do for India and the developing world what Ford's Model T did for America nearly a century ago — deliver unprecedented mobility to the masses.

"It is a potentially gigantic development if it delivers what has been promised," said John Casesa, managing partner for the Casesa Shapiro Group, a New York-based auto industry financial advisory firm.

"I think there is immense unmet demand for a vehicle of this type, because it effectively eliminates the great leap currently required to go from a two-wheel to a four-wheel vehicle," Casesa said. "They are creating something that has never existed before, the utility of a car with the affordability of a motorcycle."

The basic model will sell for 100,000 rupees, or about $2,500, but analysts estimate customers could pay 20 percent to 30 percent more to cover taxes, delivery and other charges.

Company chairman Ratan Tata, who introduced the new car at India's main auto show, has long promised a $2,500 "People's Car" for India — a country of some 1.1 billion where only seven of every 1,000 people own a car. That vow has been much-derided by the global industry which said it would be impossible without sacrificing safety and quality.

"A promise is a promise," Tata told the crowd after driving onstage stage in a white, luxury edition Nano, his head nearly touching the roof. Four company executives emerged from another. Tata says the Nano can sit five.

The company will not say how the price was kept so low on the basic version and won't say how much the luxury Nano will cost until it hits showrooms toward the end of this year. The company also refused to let reporters sit in the car, let alone drive it.

But the basic version is austere: there's no radio, passenger-side mirror, central locking or power steering and only one windshield wiper. Air conditioning that would spare motorists the brutal Indian summer is available only in deluxe models.

The little car, with its snub nose, sloping roof, and slightly bulbous rear, makes it look like another Indian icon — the mango.

The Nano's appeal, though, is not its pedigree but its price — targeting people moving up from the lower ends of India's transportation spectrum, where two-wheeled scooters selling for as little as $900 are often crammed with entire families.

The Nano's closest competitor is the Maruti 800, a four-door selling for nearly twice as much.

In terms of performance it doesn't offer much more than the Model T. The Nano has a two-cylinder 0.6 liter gasoline engine with 33 horsepower, giving it a top speed of about 60 mph, according to Tata. It gets 50 miles per gallon.

The Model T cost $825 in 1909, comparable to about $19,000 in 2006, according to an aggregate of Consumer Price Index figures. And the Nano bests the Model T's 20-horsepower, four-cylinder engine, which topped out at 45 mph.

Analysts believe the Nano could transform the auto industry, forcing manufacturers to lower prices, and perhaps find cheaper ways to sell cars than in sprawling showrooms. French auto maker Renault SA and its Japanese partner, Nissan Motor Co., are trying to find ways to sell a compact car for less than $3,000.

"Most of the other carmakers are watching this development very closely," said S. Ramnath, an auto analyst at Mumbai-based brokerage firm SSK Securities Ltd.

For now, the car will be sold only in India, but Tata said it hopes to export it to developing nations across Asia, Latin America and Africa in two or three years.

Tata initially plans to manufacture some 250,000 Nanos per year. That would be about a quarter of all cars sold in India last year.

The emergence of the Nano has fueled a host of concerns.

With developing countries like India and China putting more and more cars on the roads, it has created a greater demand for fuel, contributing to sky-high global oil prices. India consumed nearly 120 million tons of petroleum products in 2006-2007, according to the Petroleum Ministry, up from 113 million tons the previous year.

And the idea of such a low-cost vehicle has environmentalists petrified, conjuring images of traffic jams at midnight, hours-long commutes and rolling clouds of pollution.

Chief U.N. climate scientist Rajendra Pachauri, who shared last year's Nobel Peace Prize, said last month "I am having nightmares" about the car.

"Dr. Pachauri need not have nightmares," Tata said at the unveiling, promising the Nano met all current Indian emission standards.

Girish Wagh, who headed the design team, said the car has an oxidation catalytic convertor that emits 120 grams of carbon dioxide per kilometer.

Tata's promises have not reassured everybody.

"If you're talking about urban environment, it will cause serious problems," said Jamie Leather, a transport specialist with the Asian Development Bank. "The cheaper and cheaper vehicles become, the quicker those pollution levels will increase."

Link to story --> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_bi_ge/india_ultracheap_car

They have a point on the pollution, if this many cars are going to start driving around...then again, how bad can a .6L motor be?

(On the other hand, how bad are India's pollution laws? and why couldnt' reporters get to sit inside?)
 
They have a point on the pollution, if this many cars are going to start driving around...then again, how bad can a .6L motor be?

(On the other hand, how bad are India's pollution laws? and why couldnt' reporters get to sit inside?)

If you have millions of the little buggers running around, it will have an impact. I lol'ed when they said that they tried to reassure environmentalists that the car wasn't going to have much of a impact because it met Indian regulations. Does India even have emissions regulations?

I would say that they probably didn't allow reporters to sit inside because it's probably an atrocious vehicle. You really can't to much with $2500.
 
'round here, that gets you a V8, a bed, and about 100,000 miles. I mean, I'm split on the car. I don't want people to go riding around with their entire family on scooters, but I don't want the pollution problems, either

I wonder if the all-body-color version will have a competitive price with lower-end kei cars, like the Suzuki Twin.
 
50mpg average, according to the BBC. Sold only in India. And a million 0.6 litre cars is a lot better pollution wise than a million American V8s.
 
'round here, that gets you a V8, a bed, and about 100,000 miles. I mean, I'm split on the car. I don't want people to go riding around with their entire family on scooters, but I don't want the pollution problems, either

But that's a used car. Those are a pretty different game.

The biggest problem I see with pollution is that India is already all choked up. Although, you have to wonder if this car will be replacing old, dirty mopeds and other outdated engines each time one gets bought. It might actually end up cleaning the place up a bit.

I wonder if the all-body-color version will have a competitive price with lower-end kei cars, like the Suzuki Twin.

I would say no unless they "load it up" with power things, AC, radio and everything we considered standard in the 80s. Maybe a bigger engine too.
 
For £1200 you can buy a cheap reliable Fiesta/Micra here in the UK. I have seen similar small cars here in the UK which sounds like lawn mowers.

You weren't in Norfolk at the time per chance?

This will be a success, however rubbish it is.

I think we have a bigger wheel on our wheelbarrow than them things. Can't see it hitting off in America.
 
I think we have a bigger wheel on our wheelbarrow than them things. Can't see it hitting off in America.

Fitting bigger wheels and tires on that thing would probably end up doubling the price :indiff:.

Although, putting an STi motor where the rear seats are and doing a little work with the wheels and suspension would make for a very fun car to drive 👍.
 
Alot of Chickens are going to fall victim to that high windscreen.....

Either way, a neccesary car in an economy that needs mobility.
 
Wow. They couldn't even manage to put the same tires on the rear as on the front for the press photos!? Wow!
 
I would like to see some interior pics.

Rear:

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Some kind of higher end model:

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Interior:

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I would say that I actually like the center stack setup better than in the Fit and a few other economy cars I've seen. Its very clean, but there isn't anything to mess it up. And it looks like it was designed to be easily switched from LHD to RHD.
 
Damn it... I spent all day talking about this on another site, and I forgot to post this one up here.

My thoughts and observations:

They saved money by using adhesive in areas where other makers would weld or bolt parts on. This also helps save some weight. Durability of the car and of the seemingly cheap plastics used inside, is an unknown. Bigger wheels? On 3-stud hubs? Forget about it... they wouldn't make it any more stable on the motorway, and would probably kill whatever fuel economy benefits you get from the car in the first place.

While it is supposed to be emissions compliant, no word on what emissions those are... it'll probably meet Euro II requirements, though it definitely won't meet current regulations for cars in either Europe or the US.

- Someone's said it, but it bears repeating... 50 mpg. That's your difference between this and a secondhand V8 or even a secondhand Corolla (which is ubiquitous throughout Asia)... and a shtonking good reason to buy one.

This isn't a mini or even a Kei car. It's far within the bounds of Kei Car maximum measurements, and isn't even as big as your common Daihatsu/Chevrolet Matiz. No, this car is not a "car" as we know it, but more a replacement for the millions of scooter and motorcycle/passenger cab combos of every type and configuration you find across Asia... which are definitely not emissions compliant... less safe, less stable and less weatherproof.

With a maximum speed of 70 km/h, it might not be acceptable even on third world highways, but it'll definitely make a good provincial/urban commuter. The ecological effects of putting so many people on wheels? Meh... might as well stop everyone from owning a car. At least these things strike a good balance between motorcycle affordability and economy and automotive safety and emissions performance.
 
I think if it meets euro emissions or at the very least runs on unleaded fuel it will be a huge step for India who still runs millions of cars on leaded fuel...

Its certainly going to be safer than a bike or motorcycles but obviously making driving more accessible is going to cause more congestion and emissions which cuts out its good points.

As a town car I think its fine, on motorways it may have some problems but it looks bigger than a smart car so stability should be reasonable providing it holds together.

I think its great TATA is doing this but one wonders why they just didn't make it an electric vehicle... if its still running on petrol is doesn't really solve anything! They still could have done a cheap electric car (a few car batteries which you plug into the wall like the G-Wiz).

I looks quite nice also (I-car ish), certainly has TATA brand styling that can be seen on their other models. Looks concept car-ish and I don't think you will look like a prat in it! Cant wait to see a modded version! :lol:

Robin
 
I wonder if the Chinese are paying attention. India just got a whole lot bigger. Either way, 4 cycle emissions are almost always better than that of a 2 cycle. It seems like it has the ride height to putter around small towns with poor roads, but time will tell if it's as rugged as 'Lizzie was.
 
The ecological effects of putting so many people on wheels? Meh... might as well stop everyone from owning a car. At least these things strike a good balance between motorcycle affordability and economy and automotive safety and emissions performance.

I think if it meets euro emissions or at the very least runs on unleaded fuel it will be a huge step for India who still runs millions of cars on leaded fuel...

Its certainly going to be safer than a bike or motorcycles but obviously making driving more accessible is going to cause more congestion and emissions which cuts out its good points.

I disagree. The streets are already plugged with little scooters spewing out their oil-burning smoke. It would come as no surprise if this car produced less emissions than a scooter, and since this car would be a replacement for a scooter, we may actually see an improvement (or a stall in the deterioration) of India's skies. And driving won't be more accessible, but for every scooter replaced by one of these, you probably take up the room of maybe 4 to 8 of them and that would have a huge effect on congestion.

I think its great TATA is doing this but one wonders why they just didn't make it an electric vehicle... if its still running on petrol is doesn't really solve anything! They still could have done a cheap electric car (a few car batteries which you plug into the wall like the G-Wiz).

In India? Are there that many Indians that have power outlets in their homes? I would be very surprised if we see a small, electric car for the masses as a success in the developing world. Oil is a much more convenient resource. I could go on and on about how it should be us, if anybody, to go to alternatives but I'll leave it at that.
 
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