Texas Preparing To Become Independent Nation

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http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/03...-highlights-states-ongoing-secession-efforts/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/texas-secession
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...independent-nation-in-case-union-falls-apart/
http://www.inquisitr.com/1155810/te...-up-secession-do-texans-still-want-to-secede/


What do you guys think? Will it happen? Apparently their governor stated:

I'd rather be the president of my own country than inherit this mess [implying he considered running for president].

I think if they do it many states will follow.

 

[Mini Stiggy]

Hmmm

 

[Ameer67]

Again?, was the first word that came to my mind.

 

[GranTurismo916]

I doubt it.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Just an anniversary thing, note the use of "still" and "ongoing" in the headlines.

 

[a6m5]

While I don't expect to see it in my lifetime, everyday, I think the Americans are really growing apart. Mostly thanks to the media.

 

[Dotini]

Texans definitely think of themselves as a breed apart. I know; I was born and raised there. Mercifully, I've lived in the soviet of Seattle for the last 50 years.

 

[Villain]

Non-story.

 

[McLaren]

Key thing in that last article; the politicians only want to put into effect if the US govt. falls apart. The chances of that happening are slim, thus Texas actually seceding are even slimmer.

 

[Dotini]

I believe most Texans think they retain the right to return to an independent republic that was conferred to them along with statehood.

 

[Danoff]

It's something Texans like to daydream about. It was the case when I lived there, I don't think it'll stop.

 

[Grayfox]

If he does it means they have to use the texas state flag as their country flag and USA will have to change their flag since there aren't 50 states.

 

[Azure Flare]

They could just cut California in half and still retain 50 states!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Texans definitely think of themselves as a breed apart. I know; I was born and raised there. Mercifully, I've lived in the soviet of Seattle for the last 50 years.

Something about Texans and Californians always acting like their own nation, just grinds my gears then wanting to be their own makes it even worse.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

What do you guys think? Will it happen? Apparently their governor stated

I do like the way he not-so-subtly implies that if Texas were to become an independent nation, then he would be president.

 

[DK]

I do like the way he not-so-subtly implies that if Texas were to become an independent nation, then he would be president.

That probably one of the best arguments against Texas becoming independent.

 

[Robin]

This reminds me so much of Jericho (which was a great series BTW)

http://jericho.wikia.com/wiki/Allied_States_of_America

 

[prisonermonkeys]

That probably one of the best arguments against Texas becoming independent.

I take it that means he would turn it into a banana republic, and then try to stimulate banana production because of it?

 

[Dotini]

Texas was formerly an independent Republic recognized by the US. It has a long history of secessionist , independence and now "nationalist" movements. If they were ever to get serious about it, it would something very much to worry about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements

 

[Famine]

Something about Texans and Californians always acting like their own nation, just grinds my gears

They are. That's about half of the point of the US Constitution - and the Union should be reminded of that from time to time.

 

[Imari]

Texas was formerly an independent Republic recognized by the US. It has a long history of secessionist , independence and now "nationalist" movements. If they were ever to get serious about it, it would something very much to worry about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_secession_movements

Why would it be worrying? If they want to go, let them go, I'd have thought.

 

[Dotini]

Why would it be worrying? If they want to go, let them go, I'd have thought.

- It may open the floodgates to the dissolution of the Union.
- It could deprive the rest of the Union of petroleum and agricultural resources, and taxes from the healthy Texas economy.
- It would remove a strong conservative Republican influence, and leave the remainder of the union more neo-liberal, more blue, and possibly more authoritarian.

 

[Famine]

Why would it be worrying? If they want to go, let them go, I'd have thought.

Texas on its own would be the 16th most productive oil producing nation. Though removing it wouldn't dislodge the USA from its 3rd place overall (behind Saudi Arabia and Russia), it would increase the amount the USA would need to import by nearly 20%.

 

[BobK]

The last time there was a more or less successful secessionist movement in this country, it resulted in a rather bloody war to nullify the secession. I would expect the same thing to happen again.

 

[Dotini]

The last time there was a more or less successful secessionist movement in this country, it resulted in a rather bloody war to nullify the secession. I would expect the same thing to happen again.

In the incredibly remote scenario that a secession will occur, it would have to be mutually agreeable to both parties. Let's say a nutso Texan gets elected President, and a Democratic Congress salivates at the prospect of consolidated neo-liberal/Democratic control of 49 states. Not too likely, but possible.

Here is a question: If Texas secedes, should it assume its per capita share of the national debt as part of the secession bargain?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Here is a question: If Texas secedes, should it assume its per capita share of the national debt as part of the secession bargain?

Of course! Just try collecting it...

 

[Dotini]

Of course! Just try collecting it...

I suppose one could take the position that debt, globally, is so disproportionately huge that there is NO prospect of it ever being paid off. This implies skyrocketing inflation, abrogation or collapse will make repayment of debt a moot point.

 

[sumbrownkid]

Yeah, not happening.

Florida repealing Stand Your Ground has more of a chance than this happening.

 

[Crispy]

This is why I can't wait until Mr. Rick Perry goes...

 

[Omnis]

I would move to Texas tomorrow if they seceded today.