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I've completed all of GT4 except for the 24hr endurances races. It seems impossible to complete because I get mad fast and quit after like 30mins. How did anyone of you finish it?
The 24HR Endurance Races
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Smallhorses
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Erm, you've answered your own question in your post. 
If you get mad and quit after 30min, then you've not raced for 24hrs and thus you won't complete them.
The answer is to race for 24hrs. 👍
For this you need patience and concentration.
From the sounds of things you currently have neither.
Learn some of both and try again.
Don't be frustrated with the game, an endurance race is precisely what it says, a test of "Endurance" and there's no endurance in completing several hundred piddling little 1 or 2 lap waste-of-space races.
The endurance races are the perfect way to hone your skills on a particular track and make use of race strategy by carefully monitoring your tyre-wear and using pitstops to your advantage, something that real racing generally involves, and will allow an underpowered lightweight car to triumph of heavier, overpowered monsters, rather than 1 or 2 lap sprints where this is much more tricky to achieve. If you're racing for 24hrs, being first at the finish line is the important bit. If you've picked something that puts you in 1st place by the first corner of lap 1, then my gosh you're in for a boring race and you'll lose interest. Pick something competitive that keeps you on the edge of your seat and fighting the whole way. 👍
There's no rules that state you have to do 24hrs in one sitting. Ignore all the crap about leaving your PS2 for prolongued periods being harmful, just make sure it's well ventilated, race a couple of hours, pause the game, and when you're paused scroll down to "Screen Settings" and click X. This way you're in the Screen settings menu and the game won't unpause if someone (or something, cat, dog, baby, etc.) inadvertently pushes the button again.
Come back to it in 1 or 2 hour chunks whenever you have time.
I've done the 24hr races at least 3 times each (all in A-spec), and they're no problem if you have some patience and the commitment. The fastest I've done one is in 3 days (8hrs / day for 3 days) and the longest one took me 22 days (PS2 was paused for over a week as I went on a couple of business trips throughout the 24hr race duration) as I was only doing it in 1 or 2hr chunks.
Have a search through race reports forum for advice, and use "24hr" as a search term within this forum to come up with some threads where you'll find hints and tips (some good, some bad) from 24hr survivors.
If you get mad and quit after 30min, then you've not raced for 24hrs and thus you won't complete them.
The answer is to race for 24hrs. 👍
For this you need patience and concentration.
From the sounds of things you currently have neither.
Learn some of both and try again.
Don't be frustrated with the game, an endurance race is precisely what it says, a test of "Endurance" and there's no endurance in completing several hundred piddling little 1 or 2 lap waste-of-space races.
The endurance races are the perfect way to hone your skills on a particular track and make use of race strategy by carefully monitoring your tyre-wear and using pitstops to your advantage, something that real racing generally involves, and will allow an underpowered lightweight car to triumph of heavier, overpowered monsters, rather than 1 or 2 lap sprints where this is much more tricky to achieve. If you're racing for 24hrs, being first at the finish line is the important bit. If you've picked something that puts you in 1st place by the first corner of lap 1, then my gosh you're in for a boring race and you'll lose interest. Pick something competitive that keeps you on the edge of your seat and fighting the whole way. 👍
There's no rules that state you have to do 24hrs in one sitting. Ignore all the crap about leaving your PS2 for prolongued periods being harmful, just make sure it's well ventilated, race a couple of hours, pause the game, and when you're paused scroll down to "Screen Settings" and click X. This way you're in the Screen settings menu and the game won't unpause if someone (or something, cat, dog, baby, etc.) inadvertently pushes the button again.
Come back to it in 1 or 2 hour chunks whenever you have time.
I've done the 24hr races at least 3 times each (all in A-spec), and they're no problem if you have some patience and the commitment. The fastest I've done one is in 3 days (8hrs / day for 3 days) and the longest one took me 22 days (PS2 was paused for over a week as I went on a couple of business trips throughout the 24hr race duration) as I was only doing it in 1 or 2hr chunks.
Have a search through race reports forum for advice, and use "24hr" as a search term within this forum to come up with some threads where you'll find hints and tips (some good, some bad) from 24hr survivors.
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Erm, you've answered your own question in your post.
If you get mad and quit after 30min, then you've not raced for 24hrs and thus you won't complete them.
The answer is to race for 24hrs. 👍
For this you need patience and concentration.
From the sounds of things you currently have neither.
Learn some of both and try again.
Don't be frustrated with the game, an endurance race is precisely what it says, a test of "Endurance" and there's no endurance in completing several hundred piddling little 1 or 2 lap waste-of-space races.
The endurance races are the perfect way to hone your skills on a particular track and make use of race strategy by carefully monitoring your tyre-wear and using pitstops to your advantage, something that real racing generally involves, and will allow an underpowered lightweight car to triumph of heavier, overpowered monsters, rather than 1 or 2 lap sprints where this is much more tricky to achieve. If you're racing for 24hrs, being first at the finish line is the important bit. If you've picked something that puts you in 1st place by the first corner of lap 1, then my gosh you're in for a boring race and you'll lose interest. Pick something competitive that keeps you on the edge of your seat and fighting the whole way. 👍
There's no rules that state you have to do 24hrs in one sitting. Ignore all the crap about leaving your PS2 for prolongued periods being harmful, just make sure it's well ventilated, race a couple of hours, pause the game, and when you're paused scroll down to "Screen Settings" and click X. This way you're in the Screen settings menu and the game won't unpause if someone (or something, cat, dog, baby, etc.) inadvertently pushes the button again.
Come back to it in 1 or 2 hour chunks whenever you have time.
I've done the 24hr races at least 3 times each (all in A-spec), and they're no problem if you have some patience and the commitment. The fastest I've done one is in 3 days (8hrs / day for 3 days) and the longest one took me 22 days (PS2 was paused for over a week as I went on a couple of business trips throughout the 24hr race duration) as I was only doing it in 1 or 2hr chunks.
Have a search through race reports forum for advice, and use "24hr" as a search term within this forum to come up with some threads where you'll find hints and tips (some good, some bad) from 24hr survivors.
Alright, this is also good to know. As I cna see these endurances may take a while.
Smallhorses
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It depends how much you just want to get them out of the way, or if you want to gain any respect here for doing them?
This will get you respect.
This won't.
Unfortunately too many people have gone for the latter and it's PD's fault for putting in that terrible shortcut to allow people to complete a game with almost no effort.
How many other games have you played where you get right through it and up to the final, hardest challenge, and then looked for the "click here" button to bypass the level and go straight to 100%?
No other game does this, you should have to earn your 100%, just like you have to do the 20 minute shootout with the end of level boss or whatever else other games require.
My contempt for B-spec is obvious from my signature stats, and I've earned and bought 1 of every car in the game through A-spec on that save.
I've also completed a "shortest possible" all-gold game, again all A-spec.
B-spec has never been used on either of my gamesaves, and it's the reason I've decided against even starting GT5 as it's now become a requirement.
(My GT5 Collector's Edition is unsealed, and unopened and currently for sale in the Trading Post for this reason, if anyone reading this happens to want a copy?)
I bought a racing game to drive, not so I can fork out over $400 for a game and console so they can play with themselves while I, well, watch.
Gran Turismo is supposedly the real "driving" simulator 👍, not the real "race watching" simulator.
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Yup, I can totally see why you have respecf. A Silvia?! Im impressed, that is motivating me!👍
BobK
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Erm, you've answered your own question in your post.
If you get mad and quit after 30min, then you've not raced for 24hrs and thus you won't complete them.
The answer is to race for 24hrs. 👍
For this you need patience and concentration.
From the sounds of things you currently have neither.
Learn some of both and try again.
Don't be frustrated with the game, an endurance race is precisely what it says, a test of "Endurance" and there's no endurance in completing several hundred piddling little 1 or 2 lap waste-of-space races.
The endurance races are the perfect way to hone your skills on a particular track and make use of race strategy by carefully monitoring your tyre-wear and using pitstops to your advantage, something that real racing generally involves, and will allow an underpowered lightweight car to triumph of heavier, overpowered monsters, rather than 1 or 2 lap sprints where this is much more tricky to achieve. If you're racing for 24hrs, being first at the finish line is the important bit. If you've picked something that puts you in 1st place by the first corner of lap 1, then my gosh you're in for a boring race and you'll lose interest. Pick something competitive that keeps you on the edge of your seat and fighting the whole way. 👍
There's no rules that state you have to do 24hrs in one sitting. Ignore all the crap about leaving your PS2 for prolongued periods being harmful, just make sure it's well ventilated, race a couple of hours, pause the game, and when you're paused scroll down to "Screen Settings" and click X. This way you're in the Screen settings menu and the game won't unpause if someone (or something, cat, dog, baby, etc.) inadvertently pushes the button again.
Come back to it in 1 or 2 hour chunks whenever you have time.
I've done the 24hr races at least 3 times each (all in A-spec), and they're no problem if you have some patience and the commitment. The fastest I've done one is in 3 days (8hrs / day for 3 days) and the longest one took me 22 days (PS2 was paused for over a week as I went on a couple of business trips throughout the 24hr race duration) as I was only doing it in 1 or 2hr chunks.
Have a search through race reports forum for advice, and use "24hr" as a search term within this forum to come up with some threads where you'll find hints and tips (some good, some bad) from 24hr survivors.
That's just one man's opinion
Most of us have no problem with using B-Spec occasionally, especially when repeating a race series such as the DTM just for the cash.
Go ahead and B-spec the enduros to your heart's content. You can always run them in A-spec later when time and circumstances are more favorable.
The ultimate objective is to get as much enjoyment out of the game as you can. Don't let anyone tell you that you must play the game in any particular way. Me, I find some aspects of B-spec to be a challenge.
A lot of people think that B-spec means using a set-it-and-forget-it approach, starting a race then coming back an hour or 24 later and collect the prize. Yes that's just what a lot of people do, but those who think that's all there is to it will never win the Speedster Cup with B-spec.
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Guess I'll throw my two cents worth in. "IF" Polyphony Digital had ANY common sense at all [now there's a stretch!] they would have made it possible to SAVE during pit stops. Not all of us are willing or able to leave our PS2s "ON" for weeks at a time nor do 24 hour races in one setting. If the entire Endurance section had been handled better by the maker it would be the CROWNING ACHIEVEMENT of GT4 instead of the PITA it is for most of us. A-Spec or B-Spec??? No matter, I for one will not "Drive" any of them longer than four hours. Even coaching my "B-Spec Bernard" [I refuse to call mine "Bob"] through 8+ hours at triple speed won't happen again any time soon...O.G.
@ Smallhorses: Don't be trying to rip off my Avatar!!!
@ Smallhorses: Don't be trying to rip off my Avatar!!!
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I play all endurance races in a spec and i dont fell they are long. 24h races... i play 4h, pause, 6h pause,after full sleeped night, i make rest the same way. My friends play 24h in teams so actually on 24h thej play each just 5-6h. save in pit stop... it will be just perfect
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It took me 2 solid weeks to knock out the Circuit de la Sarthe 1 24hr endurance race in full A-spec. This was my fifth time running the race, but only my first going full-A. As I progressed, I used more A and less B, treating Buntsworth (my B-spec driver) as a backup driver. I treated the Nurburgring 24 hr the same way. All the other races, I had no problem running A-spec, but the 24 hr was a bit much for me.
Take a balanced approach. Spend time running it with both A and B, just be aware that you're not gonna get diddly-squat for using B-spec at all. Even if Buntsworth only races one lap, it still zeroes your A-spec points total for that race.
As for the endurance element, Smallhorses has a point. They don't call 'em endurance races because they're easy. They call them by that name because they are gruelling. There is also a reason you need 25% completion to be able to even compete in the first place, and most of the longer races require some of the higher licensure. It's because this is the essential "Final Boss Level" of the GT world. You know how the princess is in another castle? Yeah, that castle is at the end of a 3,000 mile drive, but wait: there are 3! Also, the "princess" in this case is less a woman and more a solid-black Formula GT that is equally sexy, just in a different context.
tl;dr = endurance means it's tough.
Also, the Geezer's right about one thing: saving during pitstops would have been smacktacular.
Take a balanced approach. Spend time running it with both A and B, just be aware that you're not gonna get diddly-squat for using B-spec at all. Even if Buntsworth only races one lap, it still zeroes your A-spec points total for that race.
As for the endurance element, Smallhorses has a point. They don't call 'em endurance races because they're easy. They call them by that name because they are gruelling. There is also a reason you need 25% completion to be able to even compete in the first place, and most of the longer races require some of the higher licensure. It's because this is the essential "Final Boss Level" of the GT world. You know how the princess is in another castle? Yeah, that castle is at the end of a 3,000 mile drive, but wait: there are 3! Also, the "princess" in this case is less a woman and more a solid-black Formula GT that is equally sexy, just in a different context.
tl;dr = endurance means it's tough.
Also, the Geezer's right about one thing: saving during pitstops would have been smacktacular.
I don't like using b-spec to just "skip through" a race. However, when I completed the Le Sarthe 24h I ran it in shifts. 1.5hrs of a-spec then 3hrs of b-spec, as if I was sharing the drive with 2 teammates. I didn't pause the game or fast forward b-spec at all, so it ran for exactly 24hrs. And i always made sure I did my stint, even if it was at 4am!
X4 Times compression would of been nice too or even higher. Even at 3x it still takes 8 hours. It just turned into one of those things to get over with. I like a good 60 lap race, beyond that It bugs me using a standard controller. If I were using a wheel and pedals I might feel different.
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Yeah, or the X5 we might know about.
I don't do B Spec much anymore, but I wouldn't be able to find time to do any of the 24 hour races (Or even one of the shorter super long races) entirely in A Spec, even in shifts of any kind. And even if I run an overkill car for those, I can't always trust Bob. I could maybe trust him on the 24 hours of the Ring, since I'd have some stupid fast car by the time I get to that race, but La Sarthe would be a royal pain. If I get my hands on the Formula GT, I don't know how Bob's pit schedule will be, or how he'll drive on hot tires. And a Group C/LMP car would put me too close for comfort if I want easy autopiloting. And I've heard of a wall glitch in that race, which would lead to disasters. I could try driving myself for part of the race and then let Bob take over then on, but I still can't have full trust. I know PD wants to mirror real life racing events, but it would be better if they just had the 24 hour races as Single Races, with 24 1 hour races or something like that.
We so could have used in race saves.
If I ever get an opportunity to do those events, it's gonna be a tough run. Maybe I'll just try and trust Bob and let the system run overnight. Or maybe I'll do a few hours a day myself and let it run overnight. Or maybe A Spec/B Spec shifts thrown in. I don't know how rough the road will be, but I'll just have to see. Maybe it won't be so bad. But they'll sure be something. Maybe I'll do them, maybe I won't, but I just have to wait and see.
Besides, maybe it'll be fun.
BobK
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Or, you could learn how to train your B-spec driver so that these things become non-issues. I've heard of a number of "problems" such as the wall glitch at La Sarthe, never seen any of them with my 10,000 pt B-Spec driver.
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That I could do, but the problem is that I barely use B Spec anymore, so I wouldn't feel like having my car drive itself for thousands of miles to avoid a stupid glitch in a super long race. But that is something to consider if I ever get to the 72 Trio, assuming I do use B Spec at all. I'm kind of maybe on it now. But if I do use B Spec in the other enduros (That's where Bob usually goes if he ever does), maybe I'll race up enough points to avoid that glitch. But I have to wait and see. You never know, I might just do it in A Spec.
Erm, you've answered your own question in your post.
If you get mad and quit after 30min, then you've not raced for 24hrs and thus you won't complete them.
The answer is to race for 24hrs. 👍
For this you need patience and concentration.
From the sounds of things you currently have neither.
Learn some of both and try again.
Don't be frustrated with the game, an endurance race is precisely what it says, a test of "Endurance" and there's no endurance in completing several hundred piddling little 1 or 2 lap waste-of-space races.
The endurance races are the perfect way to hone your skills on a particular track and make use of race strategy by carefully monitoring your tyre-wear and using pitstops to your advantage, something that real racing generally involves, and will allow an underpowered lightweight car to triumph of heavier, overpowered monsters, rather than 1 or 2 lap sprints where this is much more tricky to achieve. If you're racing for 24hrs, being first at the finish line is the important bit. If you've picked something that puts you in 1st place by the first corner of lap 1, then my gosh you're in for a boring race and you'll lose interest. Pick something competitive that keeps you on the edge of your seat and fighting the whole way. 👍
There's no rules that state you have to do 24hrs in one sitting. Ignore all the crap about leaving your PS2 for prolongued periods being harmful, just make sure it's well ventilated, race a couple of hours, pause the game, and when you're paused scroll down to "Screen Settings" and click X. This way you're in the Screen settings menu and the game won't unpause if someone (or something, cat, dog, baby, etc.) inadvertently pushes the button again.
Come back to it in 1 or 2 hour chunks whenever you have time.
I've done the 24hr races at least 3 times each (all in A-spec), and they're no problem if you have some patience and the commitment. The fastest I've done one is in 3 days (8hrs / day for 3 days) and the longest one took me 22 days (PS2 was paused for over a week as I went on a couple of business trips throughout the 24hr race duration) as I was only doing it in 1 or 2hr chunks.
Have a search through race reports forum for advice, and use "24hr" as a search term within this forum to come up with some threads where you'll find hints and tips (some good, some bad) from 24hr survivors.
That was interesting advice....i have been wonderingt he same thing about how to complete a mission like this..i have to admit,,,,i have left my ps2 console on for a whole weekend by mistake and there seemed to be no sign of damage, so i like your idea of playing, then pausing and resuming....i too have lost patience on those endurance races....if its 15 tracks or more im not interested in playing, but now i might give it a go after reading your post......
Thanks
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I like the endurance races, but I feel the ones over 5 hours are grueling if done full A-Spec. I'm going back through GT4 with the DFGT and just completed the Fuji 1000km, and it took 5 hours and 4 minutes with two B-Spec breaks. I don't have any issues with using B-Spec especially for the 24 hour races, as I don't know of any such race in which a single driver drives the entire time. It would be impossible, plus all the 24 hour races I know have teams of drivers, so why not use B-Spec?
Also, I don't like the idea of leaving the PS2 on and pausing it, as this defeats the purpose and flow of a continuous 24 hour race. I have too many power outages to do that anyway.
Also, I don't like the idea of leaving the PS2 on and pausing it, as this defeats the purpose and flow of a continuous 24 hour race. I have too many power outages to do that anyway.
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A Co-driver and myself did Sarthe II, using an R92C (not in one sitting). I had done my tire and fuel consumption testing, checked the competition, and knew that if we lapped consistently at time 'X' (comfortably above what the car was capable of), we would win. My co-driver started the race, got a case of buck-fever, and by the time he settled down, we had spotted the field two laps. I told him to relax, we've got 20 hours to get it back, not 22 laps. Round and round we went, un-lapped ourselves in the 17th hour, took the lead for good at the end of the 22nd hour, but cars and people were tired, and we managed to win by 40 seconds. And at the end, no fanfare. just a "You win", a nice wad of credits, and a car of some kind. The point is: It is an endurance race. You don't just grab a car and jump in. GT4 is very simplified, but some of the RW elements are there. You are not required to be lightning fast, but you do have to be consistently fast, and it does help to have a car which is consistently fast. Absolute near-record laps are not required. I cannot go flat-out for more than three or so laps without slowing down, or piling up. Using a car that laps near it's limit to contend invites a quick exit. This is unlike the real world, where the fastest car does not always win. A case in point: P1075, the Ford GT40 (or at least the paintjob) simulated in the game, won the 24hrs of Le Mans twice, in 1968 and 1969. In neither case was it in the top five qualifiers, it wasn't even the fastest car. It was however, the fastest car to finish. Which also explains why it appears in the Sarthe II 24hrs. It has pride of place, and certainly illustrates how technology has improved since 1969.
Test-fire a race a couple of times through a few pit cycles (tire & fuel consumption testing) before you run to compete, watch the replays, and observe the competition. Much can be learned, and if you want to go at it with a marginal car, get lots of rest.
One of the most unrealistic things about the game is: no DNF (Did Not Finish), except for the A-spec that burns out and quits. So the GT40 will not win again at Le Mans.
Test-fire a race a couple of times through a few pit cycles (tire & fuel consumption testing) before you run to compete, watch the replays, and observe the competition. Much can be learned, and if you want to go at it with a marginal car, get lots of rest.
One of the most unrealistic things about the game is: no DNF (Did Not Finish), except for the A-spec that burns out and quits. So the GT40 will not win again at Le Mans.
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I finished the 'De La Sarthe' 24 hour endurance race myself myself 2 days ago with the Suzuki Pikes Peak car, the first half I did 13 hours only pausing for a bite to eat, a smoke and to go to the toilet, the next morning I resumed playing as soon as I woke up at 6am and finished it at 5pm. Man I was exhausted! But its something I just had to do, I was only dissapointed that I didn't earn enough experience to do the 24 hour Nurburgring.
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Very interesting choice, Jeffrey. How many points did you get from that Suzuki? If you got 200, you might want to post your setup in the 200-point forum near the top of the main page.
As for the 'Ring, I would suggest that you get a slower, "fun" car (one that you really like) like the Lotus Elan S1, or the Nissan Skyline BLRA3, etc. and run lap after lap until you familiarized with the course. Once you've nailed the course layout, try moving up to a faster machine, culminating with a GT500 (or GT300 if you're feeling your Wheaties). When you can regularly and consistently pull laps in the 7:15 range, you should be able to win.
Also, take a 3-400 bhp street car to the Nurburgring 4 hour enduro and cut your teeth there.
As for the 'Ring, I would suggest that you get a slower, "fun" car (one that you really like) like the Lotus Elan S1, or the Nissan Skyline BLRA3, etc. and run lap after lap until you familiarized with the course. Once you've nailed the course layout, try moving up to a faster machine, culminating with a GT500 (or GT300 if you're feeling your Wheaties). When you can regularly and consistently pull laps in the 7:15 range, you should be able to win.
Also, take a 3-400 bhp street car to the Nurburgring 4 hour enduro and cut your teeth there.
BobK
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How does one earn experience in GT4, and what does it have to do with Nürburgring? The Le Mans races are harder to be eligible for; you need an IA license for either one whereas you only need an IB license for either of the Nürburgring enduros.
GTsail
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Was this a GT5 race?
As BobK mentions, you don't really earn experience in GT4.
Puzzled,
GTsail
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You used the Suzuki?!? Other than the insane acceleration that thing is a tank.
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- Burien
I was Sammy's co driver and it doesn't help trying to push the car beyond it's limits for too long. Also, in the 24h at the ring, the tuning cars are no match for the Ford GT40, the Chaparral 2D, and the 62' Buick Special.
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- Burien
One time my car ran out of gas at Le Sarthe I on the last lap. It slowed down to 50 mph and came in third. Well, it was comfortably in third when it tried to pit as the time reached 24:00, some words appeared saying, "Cannot pit on last lap." Or something like that. That was irritating.
