The Ace Combat fanboy thread :D

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This is a thread to discuss the many Ace Combat games, from the first up to Assault Horizon!

Share tips for missions and just have general banter about the game series, we shall make a squadron worthy of chatting and drinking tea :D
 
Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War is still one of my all time favorite games. Great story, with a memorable soundtrack. Also great selection of planes and missions. Ace Combat 6 was just bad. Gameplay and graphics was fine, but the story was crap and so was the plane and mission selection. Horizon is hardly even an Ace Combat game. It's utter trash. Literally nothing good can be said about that piece of 🤬.
 
I used to love the Ace combat series. Besides GT it was the only other game series I played. I love AC4 the most because you're Mobius 1, The super pilot. AC5 and ACZero were nice for their story and planes selection.
 
Ace Combat Zero is the quintessential AC game for me. 👍 The soundtrack, the missions, the planes...
 
The first one I played was the 3rd one, the one set in the Future. As a young lad I thought the laser-shooting Bi-plane things where cool as an Inuit's fridge, I managed to unlock one of them legit (X-900 I think it was called), but had to gameshark the other one 'cos I was on the verge of eating my PS1 XD.
The PS2 ones I didn't actually play all that much of, and then I got into AC:X and AC:X2 on PSP. As for Assault Horizon, the demo put me off completely.
 
Assault Horizon was disappointing for one reason.

It was set in the real world.
 
Ace Combat 5 was the only one I played, and to be honest I loved it for the reasons others have stated above, as well as the impressive graphics considering it was a PS2 game.
I always remember the mission when you are one the run from the side you were previously on, and you had to follow that veteran pilot through the tunnels through the mountains 👍
Absolutely brilliant game, in my top 5 for sure.
 
Is it Distant Thunder where you have to chase the criminal in the city? I've forgot :-/
 
Assault Horizon is a good spinoff but nothing great.

Problem is that the DFM made it annoying since you where either forced into it, or some enemies can only be downed in it.

They need to go back to AC6 only without the sappy story, and keep the camera angle from AH when in chase view. They should change the target view back to AC6 though.
 
I'm quite a big fan of this since I happened by chance to pick up AC04. I was not a fan of AH, but did try it. I hope they do continue to get made and that it returns to something more similar to the previous titles.
 
Recap:

I've been playing Ace Combat games since I was almost 6 years old with Ace Combat 2, I have play them all (including the atrocious AC for GBA), I have beaten them all in all difficulties and pretty much unlocked everything single thing in every single one of them.

I hate the fanboy term, makes it look like fans or followers of the game would praise whatever crap PA would develop, I am a big fan of the series, and as a fan I have seen the worse (AC GBA) and the best (vs Gault squadron in ACZ).

Ace combat 1 did the mechanic in basic polygons, AC2 started to do serious stuff with the Strangereal concept and a storyline in what it was essentially an arcade game, this aspect was developed so much that for AC3 there were 2 versions, one for EU and US that was very arcade focus, and a JP one that was very story focus.

From then on AC games focused on storytelling and actual game structure, narrative development and delivery, Ace Combat 4 built a world by which it could be free from using akins, thus getting more critical towards the aspects of warfare (mind you, the main plot of the story in AC04 is the story of a boy who's parent's were killed during the initial stages of a war, to then gain a living in a rather pitiful state with the very same person who produced his parent's dead).

From then on it builds on it's strangereal concept with AC5, which is a great example of narrative and delivery, but a poor example of characters and characterization, gaming wise the game became more complex and got a great cult of following due to it's campaign story, although is very flawed is very well delivered and both gameplay/story work in unison almost perfectly.

Technically I would have to mention ACX (produced by a different studio using the brand and the game mechanics, a PSP spinoff that was followed by the later ACX2, a PSP spinoff that introduced the real world instead of the strangereal).

There is also AC6 developed only for the 360, a huge slap to people who were eager to play that thing on their PS3, still, they didn't miss much apart from an over the top story that surpasses AC5 silliness in story delivery, gameplay wise it was a nice evolution from the normal concept that ace combat 04,5,Zero and X established, however it lacked in certain ways and the introduction of the g-turn mechanic made it worse for MP.

Then there is Assault Horizon, a U-turn from their PS2 philosophies from going from a story centric arcade game, to a arcade centric action game, dumb it down with the DFM mechanic it made a regular accessible game, thus trying to capture the COD crowd but failing to do so by breaking it's legacy (the Strangereal concept in general and the fame and experience that older games proceeded it).

Still, if there is something I love, something I think is the best thing in gaming IMO it has to be Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War, an unexpected experience that captures everything, story, dialogues, characterizations, decisions and even truly sensitive topic, involved in a series of missions and tasks that were unique, and the last mission, which could go down in history as one of the best moments in media history, AC04 had a bombastic ending but Zero, and how it sums everything up is ... perfect.

So yeah, +2 cents.
 
I would love a classic Ace Combat trilogy HD on PS3.
I enjoy HAWX which is (more or less) on PS3, what Ace Combat was on PS2. Tried Assault Horizon demo, and find it.. different. I wasn't desperate for a gameplay change, I prefer classic gameplay. Will give A.H. another go when I'll buy it cheap.
 
The only one I played much of was Ace Combat 3: Electrosphere. I loved that game, I really did. I never even tried to play the others, then when Assault Horizon was being spoken about I got quite excited, then it turned out to just be Call of Duty with wings. Seriously, that helicopter mission from the demo was Call of Duty with a Z axis and small targets, kind of a far cry from AC3.

Are there any good games that match the feel of the older, good Ace Combats? Vector Thrust for PC looks good but doesn't play all that well...

I would love a classic Ace Combat trilogy HD on PS3.

Oh for sure, I'd love that. I get the feeling if it was going to happen it would've done by now, though.
 
Are there any good games that match the feel of the older, good Ace Combats? Vector Thrust for PC looks good but doesn't play all that well...
HAWX 1 is worth playing and very cheap nowdays. It's a nice game with similar "handling" of PS2 Ace Combats. I like the story the graphics and the feeling of the game.

Unfortunately HAWX 2 has some input lags so I can reccomend only HAWX 1 from the series.
 
I loved in zero how you could choose to be a Knight, Soldier or Mercenary type pilot. I leaned tword Merc or soldier. Big furballs over Area B7R...The Round Table..good times. Also, I used to be apart of the Acecombatskies forum back in the days if you've ever heard if it.
 
If they made a HD collection of AC 5 and Zero, I'd probably die from happiness. Always wanted to try out Zero, as I heard so many good things about it.
 
I own the 3 PS2 versions and love all of them. (And 6, but that was meh.)

I did get Zero before 5, so the timeline that I experienced was a bit different than what was supposed to happen, but it doesn't matter.

I'd have to say that Zero was the best of the lot, the atmosphere and feel is unmatched.


A HUGE thing for me in the AC series is the soundtrack, I remember being scared of Lifeline in AC4, not really because it was dark, but because the music put you right on edge.



I do like the variety in 4's soundtrack though, you have all sorts of different styles.
Tango Line, Sitting Duck, Whiskey Corridor, all great examples of the variety.

I didn't like Agnus Dei as much as those two, even if it the "epic final mission" song.

And then you have the truly great tracks, Comona and Farbanti are some of the best OST's in gaming.


5's soundtrack felt very flat, not bad, but not stirring like 4. (Although "Unsung War" was awesome.)

Zero is in the middle of 4 and 5, but it has the gem that is the song "Zero".


^That should be sticky'd to the OP.

Echoing what Akira said, everything about that final mission is incredible, and the musical score was a great factor in that.



Long live the AC4 QAAM!
 
I still have and play the PS2 AC's which are so much better then the atrocious AH.
Bought AH on release instead of waiting for the reviews a little longer and boy was I in for a shocking surprise, on rails shooter sections, AC-130 section. They tried to make a winged CoD.
To this day I still haven't finished it and I just can't be bothered anymore.
Last time I gave it a try, I managed to play one mission.
I stopped and hooked up my PS2 to play a proper AC game.

I enjoyed AC04 and Zero the most.
A HD remake would be nice but a new game would be great, as long as they make it with their PSX and PS2 legacy in mind.
 
Ace Combat was my life :) Owned AC2, AC3 Electrosphere, AC4, AC5, AC Zero Belkan War. Finished all of them on Ace, collected all planes and colors. This is such a great series, even for an arcade flight sim, and I used to play Jane's Longbow, F15 and F18 on PC.
 
I am also an Ace Combat Fanboy, i assume it hehe.
Ace Combat 2 on the PSX was the game that make me love the series.
Absolutely perfect in all area.

Before working on my actual Racing Simulation, i was working on a Flying sim Ace Combat clone...


Here are few videos about it.
The Aircraft selection screen music is from me also ^^


 
For me, Ace Combat 04 is my favorite game of the series and I did everything possible on that game including beating the game to several times. I will always have fond memories of Mobius 1 and his fight against the Yellow Squadron. Good times indeed.

With that said, Ace Combat Assault Horizon is my least favorite of the series (although it does have my favorite soundtrack). There are to many things to list about why I don't like the game, but I can say that is everything to do with being the "Call of Duty" of the skies.
 
Ace combat the Belkan War was the one that stood out to me.

The narrator on the cutscenes has a nice voice...
 
Of the AC games I have played, AC4 and AC Zero were my favorites.
So far I have played a good chunk of AC games too...
Air Combat (borrowed it many years ago)
Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception
Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon

AH was the worst of all of them, mostly due to the scripted dogfight scenes and what not. Also the plot left a LOT to be desired when compared to previous AC games.
Though, hopefully the next AC game is back to its roots, instead of cashing in on modern FPS games like AH. Till then, I will continue messing around with the indie game Vector Thrust, which a lot of my fellow AC fans are following.
 
Ive played almost every AC game besides AC6 and AC2. AC5 is by far my most favorite one with AH being the worst aswell. Half the game is scripted and the final dogfight was as hard as can be. Anyone know if they are even making another one yet?
 
Ive played almost every AC game besides AC6 and AC2. AC5 is by far my most favorite one with AH being the worst aswell. Half the game is scripted and the final dogfight was as hard as can be. Anyone know if they are even making another one yet?
AC:AH sold clearly over 1M, so that's in the eyes of Namco a success (even if it doesn't sound like much).
I think they'll bring another one.
 
AC:AH sold clearly over 1M, so that's in the eyes of Namco a success (even if it doesn't sound like much).
I think they'll bring another one.

It could have sold 10 million copies for all I care, that still doesn't make it a good game in my eyes atleast. It was cool with all the new variety you got but a scripted dogfight is no fun.
 
It could have sold 10 million copies for all I care, that still doesn't make it a good game in my eyes atleast. It was cool with all the new variety you got but a scripted dogfight is no fun.
I wasn't talking about how good it is.

I said it sold relatively well, and usually you don't drop something that brings profit. Therefore the chances for a new Ace Combat aren't that bad. That's all I tried to say.
 
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