THE!! fiat 500 tune for seasonal

[neil1280]

Credit to CCR_BR2 for a great tune

Guys this tune is guaranteed to work for this seasonal, I struggled to get within ten seconds of the first car but when i came across CCR_BR2's tune and I altered it slightly, by taking the car below the required weight 899kg and then adding a ballast to the back of the car helped give it better weight distribution, i also had racing exhaust and all other parts engine tune 1 but no turbo, i then power limited it, bringing in 303 performance points, fitting all these parts wont help bhp but it helps the torque


my settings are like this

aero. 0/20
Weight reduction 2
Ballast 101kg position 50 then power limited
tranny geared to 106mph
STANDARD flywheel, its better for hills
lsd 8/37/35
R-height -20/ -20
springs 7.0/5.0
extension 5/4
compression 4/3
ARB 3/3
camber 1.6/1.2
toe 0.20/ 0.10

I think giving the car closer to 50/50 weight distribution helps a lot, with it this way you can take the hard left hander after the long straight at just above 60 getting up to 63 or 64, this is the corner where you brake the most so thats where you can easily lose 2 seconds, i always kept wide right braking a little early and then pushing up the hill.

I play lots but i only use a DS3 and i would say im only above average compared to some on here, im sure this tune could be played with to get 2.00minute laptimes.

After this tune I won the race FIRST TIME by three seconds, and if i can do it any mug can do it.

 

[JackWilson]

Credits to VCR_br2 for taking the settings from RKM's Nissan March tune you mean.

 

[Adrian5]

Thanks! Now I can get to winning my 900,000 credits!

 

[JLawrence]

Forget this post ever happened =p

 

[REnthusiaSTS]

THANKS neil1280...

I will try out your setting tonight...I was totally struggling by like 10 seconds to catching up to the AI in 1st place...I kept tuning & tuning...and realized how much I SUCKED...

your post was an INSPIRATION...👍

 

[neil1280]

nice one good luck! 👍

 

[CrzRsn]

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[zodicus]

I did all the engine, tranny and driveline upgrades then added the ride height adj suspension and lowered it all the way. I left all the other settings alone, won pretty easy.

 

[selfacclaimed]

JLawrence - worst tune off all time.

 

[Milldrum]

JLawrence - worst tune off all time.

.... of all time.

Why is it a bad tune? If Joey Lawrence has tuned a car badly, then give him some guidance.

The spring rate is too ??? in the front making it ???
Your settings for the LSD are too ??? causing too much ???

Criticism should always be welcome when it is constructive. So please, why is it a bad tune?

 

[simon1994]

So I may be missing something, but this tune isn't doing the trick for me.

I actually loose speed on the uphills, and my best lap time is 2:06.

I did finish 2nd, but a full 17 seconds behind first.

I gotta say the same, will someone please tell what to do?

 

[bblake0213]

I tired your set-up and did place second but still 17 seconds behind first place, any suggestion?

 

[JLawrence]

JLawrence - worst tune off all time.

Brother, there is no need to be a prick. I posted it only after having several other people test it, adjust it, and run fast laps with it. I almost doubt you have bothered to even run it.

If you have an issue with it, please be constructive, and tell me what it is about it that you don't like so I can compensate for it. It could just be that you have a different driving style, and need a slightly different set up. There is no real definitive tune for any car because people each drive in a different manner.

And by the way you spelled "of" wrong =)

 

[selfacclaimed]

^ your last comment got me smiling

honestly, i was super frustrated with the race. i tried a few other user's tunes in another thread and some of the settings were on the complete other side of the spectrum on not only toe and camber, but weight placement and LSD settings. i almost felt like you threw it out there to screw everyone up.

i too was losing speed on uphills like stated above. not only that but i was losing time on the leader.


i think your tune probably would work better if you hadn't placed all the ballast at -50. is the car even a rear engine model? almost all the other tunes i tried had the ballast at 50. the complete opposite end.

it did seem to handle better but i think the ballast caused a lot of issues with the LSD settings. too much weight being dumped into the front corners during turns will cause too much of a reading on the slipping. then in turn your setting for torque and braking is over kill. so we end up losing tons and tons of speed in the corners. well pretty much any time the car is pulling over 1 g-force. so we lose a lot of speed in over 3/4 of the track.

 

[Adrenaline]

He has some valid points, but overall, you just have to assume people are pissed off because they can't beat the event, so they take it out on the tuner.

 

[selfacclaimed]

He has some valid points, but overall, you just have to assume people are pissed off because they can't beat the event, so they take it out on the tuner.

technically you are correct i guess. i did say that i was frustrated with the race but the main reason for my outlandish statement about how bad it was in my first post was because i felt like most of his settings were so opposite of the other ones i saw. and it had so many negative affects on my lap times, i figured he had some typo's or just plain did it on purpose.

for the most part, when i come across a bad tune. i just don't use it anymore. if it works for them and or others then i assume i'm the problem and i just keep it moving. i try something else.

 

[JLawrence]

The older 500's are in fact a rear engine car. It's part of what made customizing them so fun (really you should check some of those machines out), the new models have the engine in the front.

I haven't run the seasonal event myself (I'm currently out of state) but on all of the tracks we tested on (Laguna, Deep Forest, and Trial Mt.) the front ballast gave it a much more balanced feel when taking the corners, though with a couple of the uphill sections I could feel the engine struggling a little bit. If this event has a lot of uphill stretches, the front ballast may not be the best thing for it. Because the engine is so small and produces very small amounts of torque it can have basically an open differential, ie: the Initial Torque and Acceleration Sensitivity don't need to be high at all. For that matter neither does the Braking Sensitivity, I just enjoy holding the throttle into the corners and tapping the brakes just enough to make it around.

And I apologize for getting heated about it as well. I can understand getting upset over some of those events, they are a challenge, though I will ask that you be mindful of the tuner, and the effort they put into making a tune, when criticizing it.

 

[selfacclaimed]

well. it just became very obvious that you posted up this tune with no knowledge of the Fiat 500 Seasonal.

when you mentioned the old machines and how you hadn't raced the new seasonal yet, i went back up to look at your original post.

now the math is adding up. of course this tune isn't working. its not for the car we have to use.

makes sense now.

so i'll go back to my original idea on this tune for the Fiat 500. worst tune ever
this tune for an older rear engine mounted Fiat. probably fantastic.

 

[JLawrence]

Haha maybe so!
I was given the impression that the older car was the one for the job.
Don't I just feel like a fool X)

 

[zodicus]

Just get the hight adjustable suspension and lower it all the way, leave everything else alone. i did all the power upgrades then limitted it to meet regulations, no ballast. I won the race pretty easy this way. tranny was the close ratio, not the full custom.

 

[dr_slump]

Just get the hight adjustable suspension and lower it all the way, leave everything else alone. i did all the power upgrades then limitted it to meet regulations, no ballast. I won the race pretty easy this way. tranny was the close ratio, not the full custom.

Did the same and bought only the height adjustable one. But I set the front ride height by 5 higher than the rear. It helped a lot!

 

[DreamersParady]

Will, give this one a go later, managed to get down to 8 seconds on a similar set up on a second go. I recon 4/5 try's and some tweaking and I should have cracked it.

 

[neil1280]

guys if you are losing power on the uphill dont use a racing flywheel, use standard, a lighter flywheel has more resistance going up a hill, weaken the brakes, if you brake slightly too much i.e below 60.mph on the left bend before the uphill you are screwed. this hill is the only reason you can lose this race.

just to confirm, I put the ballast at the back of the car obviously, this gives closer to 50/50 weight distribution

 

[thefraggle]

.... of all time.

Why is it a bad tune? If Joey Lawrence has tuned a car badly, then give him some guidance.

The spring rate is too ??? in the front making it ???
Your settings for the LSD are too ??? causing too much ???

Criticism should always be welcome when it is constructive. So please, why is it a bad tune?

I am not adding this to beat anyone with a verbal stick but this is brilliant advice and if it was always done like this we would all be much much better at tuning cars and would have a much better understanding up a cars mechanics not only in GT5 but also in real life.