The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

[PepeMickey]

It's more of a roof cam, it's pretty poorly implemented.

There are many ways around it, if you can't find them, that's your problem.

 

[Eks]

I don't like the roof camera because when driving using a wheel it feels like... Well, sitting on the roof.

Not just sitting on the roof..more like being tied down, having your head forced in a single straight position the entire time.

 

[lebes14]

There are many ways around it, if you can't find them, that's your problem.

What are you talking about? I only use the cockpit view so it's not much of an issue for me.

 

[Imari]

There are many ways around it, if you can't find them, that's your problem.

There are ways around this? Please share, I wish I could play from bonnet cam.

 

[Eks]

There are ways around this? Please share, I wish I could play from bonnet cam.

I think he means you could just change the view. Which is true, yes, but it doesn't fix hood view, which is the problem.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I don't like the roof camera because when driving using a wheel it feels like... Well, sitting on the roof.

Depends on the car whether or not you are looking from the roof view. Some of them like the High End Performance G37 is a great example of the hood view. I know some of the cars show a horrible view, like the Lexus GT300 car and the Mercedes SL65, but many cars are looking good from that view. On most cars to me, it looks like I am looking over my steering wheel and onto the hood.

Not all are bad but many do need fixing

 

[Samus]

From experience it's roof cam more than bonnet cam most of the time. There are a few bonnet cams and then you have a few LMPs with the camera barely above bumper cam but most are right at the top of the windscreen and too high.

 

[diegorborges]

From experience it's roof cam more than bonnet cam most of the time. There are a few bonnet cams and then you have a few LMPs with the camera barely above bumper cam but most are right at the top of the windscreen and too high.

Yes, and it's specially annoying in most cars with short front (mostly mid-engined ones like the Paganis) where you just see a little bit of the bonnet.

And in small cars, such as kei cars, it's terrible because in some you just see... the roof. Terrible.

 

[Cosbuster]

I like the roof cam

 

[Fogerty_Jr]

How I feel when I use the roof cam:

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

The roof cam to me feels like I'm laying on the car roof. I actually still like the roof cam. I mean, the hood view from GT4 would be a nice option, but I still think the roof cam is not that bad.

The only problem I have with the 3rd person cam though is that some cars are closer to it than others, would it kill PD to have some consistency?

 

[diegorborges]

How I feel when I use the roof cam:

ROFL

You sir, won a bag of internet cookies!

 

[HBR-Roadhog]

The roof cam to me feels like I'm laying on the car roof. I actually still like the roof cam. I mean, the hood view from GT4 would be a nice option, but I still think the roof cam is not that bad.

The only problem I have with the 3rd person cam though is that some cars are closer to it than others, would it kill PD to have some consistency?

GT4 did not have a hood cam either. It used the roof cam. I used to like the roof cam when I played GT4 but then I started playing Forza and a couple of other games that had a proper hood view and I like these much better. I generally switch it up a bit when I drive sometimes using bumper view sometimes using cockpit and sometimes using roof but I would prefer hood to any of these.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

GT4 did not have a hood cam either. It used the roof cam. I used to like the roof cam when I played GT4 but then I started playing Forza and a couple of other games that had a proper hood view and I like these much better. I generally switch it up a bit when I drive sometimes using bumper view sometimes using cockpit and sometimes using roof but I would prefer hood to any of these.

Really? I could have swore I saw a hood view in a few GT4 videos before. Oh well, I haven't played GT4 in a while anyway.

 

[napalmhardcore]

How I feel when I use the roof cam:

That summed it up perfectly for me.

@PepeMickey There are not ways around it. Besides which this is the whining thread. Let me whine.

I mentioned in my long post about how I have disliked almost every fixed cockpit view in games. One that I did like (in fact may be my favourite cockpit view in any game) was RBR's (without mods). For a wheel user it's spot on and made me feel really immersed.

 

[PepeMickey]

There are ways around this? Please share, I wish I could play from bonnet cam.

You can zoom in and zoom out using the Multi-screen feature, you don't need triple screens for that, this fixes cars that are too far away in 3rd person view and others that are too far away from the steering wheel in cockpit view. Some cars are already too close for this feature to work properly though. Of course this isn't a real solution but it will give a better and wider roof cam or even a better cockpit view with wider FOV, sense of speed get's better too.

It's like using ''zoom2/zoom1/wide'' in the quick options menu but instead of presets that skip too many values in between you get a slider which you can set to whatever you want between 0 and 100 and it affects all views.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

You can zoom in and zoom out using the Multi-screen feature, you don't need triple screens for that, this fixes cars that are too far away in 3rd person view and others that are too far away from the steering wheel in cockpit view. Some cars are already too close for this feature to work properly though. Of course this isn't a real solution but it will give a better and wider roof cam or even a better cockpit view with wider FOV, sense of speed get's better too.

It's like using ''zoom2/zoom1/wide'' in the quick options menu but instead of presets that skip too many values in between you get a slider which you can set to whatever you want between 0 and 100 and it affects all views.

This works, I'm using 92.

 

[DonZonda]

I didnt know that! I will try that too

 

[diegorborges]

This works, I'm using 92.

I was thinking about that too... A bit OT, but I found some interesting images @ NeoGaf... credits to WaxFreeVanilla:

 

[DonZonda]

Wow thats awesome, this way the premium cockpits make way more sense!

 

[napalmhardcore]

You can zoom in and zoom out using the Multi-screen feature, you don't need triple screens for that, this fixes cars that are too far away in 3rd person view and others that are too far away from the steering wheel in cockpit view. Some cars are already too close for this feature to work properly though. Of course this isn't a real solution but it will give a better and wider roof cam or even a better cockpit view with wider FOV, sense of speed get's better too.

It's like using ''zoom2/zoom1/wide'' in the quick options menu but instead of presets that skip too many values in between you get a slider which you can set to whatever you want between 0 and 100 and it affects all views.

I haven't played in a while (in fact before the 2.0 patch) but seem to remember something about this. I cannot remember if I tried it or not.

This is nice info and I'm sure many people were unaware of this. This begs the question, why did they hide it away in a menu that most people would think doesn't apply to them?

Also I still maintain that this doesn't solve the lack of a proper bonnet cam. But good work nonetheless

 

[PepeMickey]

I haven't played in a while (in fact before the 2.0 patch) but seem to remember something about this. I cannot remember if I tried it or not.

This is nice info and I'm sure many people were unaware of this. This begs the question, why did they hide it away in a menu that most people would think doesn't apply to them?

Also I still maintain that this doesn't solve the lack of a proper bonnet cam. But good work nonetheless

Well, it's supposed to be for triple-screens, it just happens to be beneficial to non multi-screen users too. The same works in FM4 but unfortunately, the sense of speed gets butchered if you do this.

 

[napalmhardcore]

Well, it's supposed to be for triple-screens, it just happens to be beneficial to non multi-screen users too. The same works in FM4 but unfortunately, the sense of speed gets butchered if you do this.

It does however show that FOV and zoom are possible to adjust, so why not just give us the option to change it via a slider in the regular options screen? Surely it wouldn't be that hard to implement.

 

[DonZonda]

It does however show that FOV and zoom are possible to adjust, so why not just give us the option to change it via a slider in the regular options screen? Surely it wouldn't be that hard to implement.

+1

thats what I also think, its not hard to adjust the FOV. They could simple add it to the quick options in the pause menu !

Somebody should might open a new thread regarding this hidden "feature" I'm sure many people would like to play around with that!

 

[diegorborges]

+1

thats what I also think, its not hard to adjust the FOV. They could simple add it to the quick options in the pause menu !

Somebody should might open a new thread regarding this hidden "feature" I'm sure many people would like to play around with that!

That you be great, to further discuss it. The Multi-screen thread is full of info, but for multi setups only

I'll open the thread in the GT5 section.

Edit:

Here it is , again sorry for the OT.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=284242

 

[PepeMickey]

+1

thats what I also think, its not hard to adjust the FOV. They could simple add it to the quick options in the pause menu !

Somebody should might open a new thread regarding this hidden "feature" I'm sure many people would like to play around with that!

I think a dedicated thread already exists somewhere in the GT5 sub-forums and there's another one for FM4 too, that one is titled ''FOV issues'' or something like that. Personally I think the sweet spot is somewhere between 90 and 96 but yes, you can go as crazy as you want lol.

 

[napalmhardcore]

I know I've probably come off as someone who moans about everything under the sun, but it's purely out of frustration. My gripes are generally speaking things that could be easily remedied but never seem to get brought up at developer Q&A's. I realise that asking for 1000+ cars all to a premium standard is perhaps too big of an ask, but things like seat position and FOV or a bonnet cam are realistic requests that imo would make the game so much better.

The same goes for the time of day and weather. Why are they not separate options? They can obviously render the weather effects at all times of the day so why not have the ability to choose that as a seperate option. I've also made mention about how I wish the time of day was time scalable. However this may be a memory constraint, in which case why can't we select the time of day and have it remain static? One of my favourite things to do was run either a dawn or dusk time trial at the Nordschleife in RFactor. It would be amazing to be able to do this in Gran Turismo even if it remained dawn/dusk.

Also my suggestion of the ability to select my own opposition in arcade mode. There are certain cars I'd love to put head to head but can't. Again I'm not asking for something that would be hugely difficult to do, but it would improve the game so much.

 

[airborn007]

How I feel when I use the roof cam:

This is the most hillarious pic I've seen in a long time. I couldn't stop laughing for a whole minute. I can't stand this hood view I prefer similar to Forza hood view. GT hood view feels like your on top of the roof no kidding. This hood view looks tiny and still feels like a 3rd person view but instead of seeing the entire car you have a hood view on screen only.

 

[Eks]

You can zoom in and zoom out using the Multi-screen feature, you don't need triple screens for that, this fixes cars that are too far away in 3rd person view and others that are too far away from the steering wheel in cockpit view. Some cars are already too close for this feature to work properly though. Of course this isn't a real solution but it will give a better and wider roof cam or even a better cockpit view with wider FOV, sense of speed get's better too.

It's like using ''zoom2/zoom1/wide'' in the quick options menu but instead of presets that skip too many values in between you get a slider which you can set to whatever you want between 0 and 100 and it affects all views.

Good to know 👍

 

[DK]

I must be the only one here who doesn't mind roofcam, it gives me a wider view than a hoodcam. Why not have both?