The Hagerty's price changes post-1.48 update - +6,281,200 Cr. (+1.93%) with 5 cars left to price

[Eggstor]

FFor the first time in nearly a year, the periodic Hagerty's price changes in the Legendary Car Dealership have come in the promised update. There has been quite a bit of volatility, with 15 16 cars seeing price increases, and 15 (including one that has an indeterminate price decrease scheduled) decreasing in price. As of the day of the update (specifically, 9:05 am Central Daylight Time 5/30/2024) 7:25 pm CDT 6/15/2024, there are 10 5 cars for which prices are unknown, including the one scheduled for a price decrease.

As the next set of price changes are scheduled for October, every car should appear at least once with their new prices, even if they become a "hostage". As usual, the full list of prices is below the spoiler, while the changes are immediately below. As a note, except for the 1997 Toyota Supra GT500 and 1999 Nissan GT-R GT500, which appeared as Special Picks after the update went live, the prices will take effect on their next appearance after the 1.48 update.

List of changes last updated 7:50 pm CDT 6/5/2024

• 1965 Alfa Romeo GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGATO - 3,800,000 Cr. (+50,000 Cr.)
• 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car - 20,000,000 Cr. (+6,000,000 Cr.)
• 1958 Chevrolet Corvette (C1) - 119,000 Cr. (-2,000 Cr.)
• 1963 Chevrolet Corvette (C2) - 239,000 Cr. (-10,000 Cr.)
• 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 - 133,000 Cr. (+14,000 Cr.)
• 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 - 172,000 Cr. (+9,000 Cr.)
• 1970 Citroen DS 21 Pallas - 47,600 Cr. (-2,000 Cr.)
• 1967 De Tomaso Mangusta - 315,000 Cr. (-18,000 Cr.)
• 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T - 214,000 Cr. (-19,000 Cr.)
• 1954 Ferrari Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe - 2,600,000 Cr. (-100,000 Cr.)
• 1961 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta passo corto - 8,100,000 Cr. (-300,000 Cr.)
• 1971 Ferrari 365 GTB4 - 610,000 Cr. (-30,000 Cr.)
• 1984 Ferrari GTO - 3,500,000 Cr. (-50,000 Cr.)
• 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 429 - 346,000 Cr. (+29,000 Cr.)
• 1974 Lamborghini Countach LP400 - 1,350,000 Cr. (+100,000 Cr.)
• 1980 Maserati Merak SS - 64,200 Cr. (-3,800 Cr.)
• 1991 Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II - 280,000 Cr. (-20,000 Cr.)
• 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432 - 312,000 Cr. (+122,000 Cr.)
• 1970 Nissan Skyline Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) - 194,000 Cr. (+27,000 Cr.)
• 1999 Nissan GT-R GT500 - 2,500,000 Cr. (-200,000 Cr.)
• 1970 Plymouth Superbird - 402,000 Cr. (-127,000 Cr.)
• 1969 Pontiac GTO 'The Judge' - 268,000 Cr. (-11,000 Cr.)
• 1955 Porsche Spyder Type 550/1500RS - 4,850,000 Cr. (+350,000 Cr.)
• 1956 Porsche 356 A/1500 GS Carrera - 618,000 Cr. (+3,000 Cr.)
• 1956 Porsche 356 A/1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster - 1,600,000 Cr. (+100,000 Cr.)
• 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS (901) - 750,000 Cr. (+5,000 Cr.)
• 1987 Porsche 959 - 1,950,000 Cr. (+200,000 Cr.)
• 1988 Porsche 962 C - An indeterminate decrease from 1,500,000 Cr.
• 1965 Shelby G.T.350 - 469,000 Cr. (+9,000 Cr.)
• 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 - 2,500,000 Cr. (+100,000 Cr.)
• 1967 Toyota 2000GT - 992,000 Cr. (+56,000 Cr.)

Spoiler: Full chart of Hagerty's prices post-1.48 update

Chart last updated 7:25 pm 6/15/2024

Year	Make	Model	Post-1.43 price	Post-1.48 price	1.43-to-1.48 % increase (decrease)	1.43-to-1.48 % increase (decrease)
1952​	Abarth	1500 Biposto Bertone B.A.T 1	1,000,000	1,000,000	0	0.00%
1938​	Alfa Romeo	8C 2900B Touring Berlinetta	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1965​	Alfa Romeo	GIULIA TZ2 carrozzata da ZAGTO	3,750,000	3,800,000	50,000	1.33%
1993​	Alfa Romeo	155 2.5 V6 TI	800,000	800,000	0	0.00%
1968​	Alpine	A220 Race Car	330,000	330,000	0	0.00%
1971​	AMG	300 SEL 6.8 AMG	700,000	700,000	0	0.00%
1953​	Aston Martin	DB3S	6,000,000	6,000,000	0	0.00%
1964​	Aston Martin	DB5	892,000	892,000	0	0.00%
1987​	Audi	Sport quattro S1 Pikes Peak	1,900,000	1,900,000	0	0.00%
1997​	BMW	McLaren F1 GTR Race Car	14,000,000	20,000,000	6,000,000	42.86%
1970​	Chaparral	2J	2,500,000	2,500,000	0	0.00%
1958​	Chevrolet	Corvette (C1)	121,000	119,000	(2,000)	(1.65%)
1959​	Chevrolet	Corvette Stingray Racer Concept	4,000,000	4,000,000	0	0.00%
1963​	Chevrolet	Corvette (C2)	249,000	239,000	(10,000)	(4.02%)
1969​	Chevrolet	Camaro Z28	119,000	133,000	14,000	11.76%
1970​	Chevrolet	Chevelle SS 454	163,000	172,000	9,000	5.52%
1970​	Citroen	DS 21 Pallas	49,600	47,600	(2,000)	(4.03%)
1967​	De Tomaso	Mangusta	333,000	315,000	(18,000)	(5.41%)
	De Tomaso	Mangusta (Christian Dior)	500,000	500,000	0	0.00%
1968​	Dodge	Charger R/T 426 Hemi	158,000	158,000	0	0.00%
1970​	Dodge	Challenger R/T	233,000	214,000	(19,000)	(8.15%)
1954​	Ferrari	500 Mondial Pinin Farina Coupe	2,700,000	2,600,000	(100,000)	(3.70%)
1961​	Ferrari	250 GT Berlinetta passo corto	8,400,000	8,100,000	(300,000)	(3.57%)
1962​	Ferrari	250 GTO	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1967​	Ferrari	330 P4	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1971​	Ferrari	365 GTB4	640,000	610,000	(30,000)	(4.69%)
1984​	Ferrari	GTO	3,550,000	3,500,000	(50,000)	(1.41%)
1992​	Ferrari	F40	3,100,000	3,100,000	0	0.00%
1996​	Ferrari	F50	4,450,000	4,450,000	0	0.00%
1963​	Ford	Ford Roadster	400,000	400,000	0	0.00%
1966​	Ford	GT40 Mk1	6,700,000	6,700,000	0	0.00%
1967​	Ford	Mark IV Race Car	6,750,000	6,750,000	0	0.00%
1969​	Ford	Mustang Boss 429	317,000	346,000	29,000	9.15%
1965​	Honda	RA272	2,500,000	UNAVAILABLE	UNAVAILABLE
1954​	Jaguar	D-Type	6,000,000	6,000,000	0	0.00%
1961​	Jaguar	E-type Coupe	227,000	227,000	0	0.00%
1966​	Jaguar	XJ13	12,000,000	12,000,000	0	0.00%
1988​	Jaguar	XJR-9	3,000,000	3,000,000	0	0.00%
1992​	Jaguar	XJ220	615,000	615,000	0	0.00%
1945​	Jeep	Willys MB	30,100	30,100	0	0.00%
1967​	Lamborghini	Miura P400 Bertone Prototype	3,750,000	3,750,000	0	0.00%
1974​	Lamborghini	Countach LP400	1,250,000	1,350,000	100,000	8.00%
1954​	Maserati	A6GCS/53 Spyder	2,500,000	2,500,000	0	0.00%
1980​	Maserati	Merak SS	68,000	64,200	(3,800)	(5.59%)
1970​	Mazda	RX500	600,000	600,000	0	0.00%
1991​	Mazda	787B	3,300,000	3,300,000	0	0.00%
1988​	McLaren	MP4/4	10,000,000	UNAVAILABLE	UNAVAILABLE
1994​	McLaren	McLaren F1	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1995​	McLaren	McLaren F1 GTR - BMW	15,000,000	15,000,000	0	0.00%
1929​	Mercedes-Benz	S Barker Tourer	13,000,000	13,000,000	0	0.00%
1952​	Mercedes-Benz	300 SL (W194)	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1954​	Mercedes-Benz	300 SL Coupe	1,700,000	1,700,000	0	0.00%
1989​	Mercedes-Benz	Sauber Mercedes C9	3,500,000	UNAVAILABLE	UNAVAILABLE
1991​	Mercedes-Benz	190 E 2.5-16 Evolution II	300,000	280,000	(20,000)	(6.67%)
1998​	Mercedes-Benz	CLK-LM	8,500,000	8,500,000	0	0.00%
1995​	Nissan	NISMO 400R	1,800,000	1,800,000	0	0.00%
1969​	Nissan	Fairlady Z 432	190,000	312,000	122,000	64.21%
1970​	Nissan	Skyline Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10)	167,000	194,000	27,000	16.17%
1973​	Nissan	Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110)	542,000	542,000	0	0.00%
1984​	Nissan	Skyline Super Silhouette	1,150,000	1,150,000	0	0.00%
1992​	Nissan	R92CP	2,000,000	2,000,000	0	0.00%
1999​	Nissan	GT-R GT500	2,700,000	2,500,000	(200,000)	(7.41%)
1986​	Peugeot	205 Turbo 16 Evolution 2	1,100,000	1,100,000	0	0.00%
1960​	Plymouth	XNR Ghia Roadster	1,600,000	1,600,000	0	0.00%
1970​	Plymouth	Superbird	529,000	402,000	(127,000)	(24.01%)
1969​	Pontiac	GTO 'The Judge'	279,000	268,000	(11,000)	(3.94%)
1955​	Porsche	Spyder Type 550/1500RS	4,500,000	4,850,000	350,000	7.78%
1956​	Porsche	356 A/1500 GS Carrera	615,000	618,000	3,000	0.49%
1956​	Porsche	356 A/1500 GS GT Carrera Speedster	1,500,000	1,600,000	100,000	6.67%
1964​	Porsche	Carrera GTS (904)	2,300,000	2,300,000	0	0.00%
1970​	Porsche	917K	18,000,000	18,000,000	0	0.00%
1973​	Porsche	911 Carrera RS (901)	745,000	750,000	5,000	0.67%
1987​	Porsche	959	1,750,000	1,950,000	200,000	11.43%
1988​	Porsche	962 C	1,500,000	UNAVAILABLE	UNAVAILABLE
1997​	Porsche	911 GT1 Strassenversion	10,000,000	10,000,000	0	0.00%
1966​	Renault	R8 Gordini	32,500	32,500	0	0.00%
1964​	Shelby	Cobra Daytona Coupe	20,000,000	20,000,000	0	0.00%
1965​	Shelby	G.T.350	460,000	469,000	9,000	1.96%
1966​	Shelby	Cobra 427	2,400,000	2,500,000	100,000	4.17%
1998​	Suzuki	V6 Escudo Pikes Peak Special	1,700,000	1,700,000	0	0.00%
1967​	Toyota	2000GT	936,000	992,000	56,000	5.98%
1995​	Toyota	Celica GT-FOUR Rally Car (ST205)	250,000	250,000	0	0.00%
1997​	Toyota	Supra GT500	1,800,000	1,800,000	0	0.00%
1999​	Toyota	GT-One (TS020)	2,500,000	UNAVAILABLE	UNAVAILABLE

 

[Draugnimir]

1955 Porsche Spyder Type 550/1500RS - 4,850,000 Cr. (+350,000 Cr.)

Another purchase I shouldn't have been delaying... 😅

As always - great job with the list!

 

[HarVee]

Some good, some bad, but it doesn't look like too many are raised enough to be a deal-breaker. Great list, keep it up!

 

[Eggstor]

OP updated with the returns of the 1995 McLaren McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (which did not change in price) and the 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car (which went up by 6,000,000 Cr. to become the latest 20,000,000-Cr. unicorn). That leaves 8 cars to reprice, including one that will have a decrease.

Of note, because the F1 longtail is a "Special Pick", there is no up-arrow to signify that it did have its price gouged.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Thank goodness I bought a few before this price hike.

 

[KAlex122]

F1 1997 - one less car to worry about. 🙄

I just ignore the 20M cars for now.

 

[DapperDan07]

• 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car - 20,000,000 Cr. (+6,000,000 Cr.)

This is just ridiculous

 

[GTboyz]

We're gonna get every LCD cars to 20 million by the end of the game life aren't we lol

 

[tankuroded]

OP updated with the returns of the 1995 McLaren McLaren F1 GTR - BMW (which did not change in price) and the 1997 BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car (which went up by 6,000,000 Cr. to become the latest 20,000,000-Cr. unicorn). That leaves 8 cars to reprice, including one that will have a decrease.

Of note, because the F1 longtail is a "Special Pick", there is no up-arrow to signify that it did have its price gouged.

Suprised to find the Long Tail become the first 20-million grouped race car before the short tail one.

 

[Talon16]

I can't believe the McLaren longtail is now 20mil. Just in time for it to be the new TT. What a load. Thanks, Kaz.

Glad I bought mine a long time ago when it was half that. For those who didn't buy it - and want it - that really sucks.

 

[Eggstor]

I can't believe the McLaren longtail is now 20mil. Just in time for it to be the new TT. What a load. Thanks, Kaz.

Glad I bought mine a long time ago when it was half that. For those who didn't buy it - and want it - that really sucks.

You can "rent" it for free for the time trial, if you don't mind the default livery.

 

[OldandSlow]

You can "rent" it for free for the time trial, if you don't mind the default livery.

I'll use the loaner and beat on that one, instead of mine.

 

[Talon16]

You can "rent" it for free for the time trial, if you don't mind the default livery.

Of course. For me, I like to buy the cars and seeing one as a TT (or Weekly Challenge event) is a good reason to buy a car I don't already have. I don't feel I am alone here.

The fact PD put this car in the LCD right as the TT dropped tells me that's what they're offering for people to do... albeit at almost 150% price hike on a car that was already overpriced.

I'll use the loaner and beat on that one, instead of mine.

You know the cars aren't real, right?

 

[Tommy_D]

So this latest price increase on the '97 McLaren Longtail is quite dubious on Hagerty's part. I already own the car and will say... meh... on it's performance when rated against it's direct competition. It's really not that amazing of a car and it collects dust in my garage. That said, I want to see some actual data from Hagerty's that justifies a 6 million credit price increase for it. Show me the recent sales of these cars that shows its value has increased this much in the real world.

This is the only record I can find of one of these cars ever selling back in 2014 at ~$5.3M: https://www.goodingco.com/lot/1997-mclaren-f1-gtr-longtail/

 

[mercgoat]

The show hate to the fans simulator at it again

 

[Revengel]

So this latest price increase on the '97 McLaren Longtail is quite dubious on Hagerty's part.

This is the only record I can find of one of these cars ever selling back in 2014 at ~$5.3M: https://www.goodingco.com/lot/1997-mclaren-f1-gtr-longtail/

Understood, and I know this is just a game in the end.

However, there were only 3 ever made and with that in mind I can understand the price hike to that level.

As usual, it's just my opinion which may be wrong.

 

[Tommy_D]

Understood, and I know this is just a game in the end.

However, there were only 3 ever made and with that in mind I can understand the price hike to that level.

As usual, it's just my opinion which may be wrong.

I don't really care since I already own the car, but the idea behind having Hagerty as part of the game was to being a level of real life to the pricing of the vehicles in the LCD. If there is only one sale on recent record of the car (2014), then that's what it is worth. Until another goes on sale and is purchased, no one can say what the car is worth. It is just speculation at this time. But, it's only worth what someone will pay for it. So far only one person has paid ~$5.3M in the last decade.

This is why I had no problem with signing up for Hagerty's "service", get the code to download the 917 for free, then cancel the Hagerty service before I have to pay for it. I have no issues doing that considering how they speculate the pricing and make the game more ridiculous for the player base.

 

[Revengel]

I don't really care since I already own the car,

Ditto. It was the last car I needed to complete the Haggerty collection.

but the idea behind having Hagerty as part of the game was to being a level of real life to the pricing of the vehicles in the LCD.

Agreed, however speculation is part of real life. Vehicles of this type - much like a rare piece of art - are valued on estimated worth. It is absolutely speculation.

If there is only one sale on recent record of the car (2014), then that's what it is worth. Until another goes on sale and is purchased, no one can say what the car is worth. It is just speculation at this time. But, it's only worth what someone will pay for it. So far only one person has paid ~$5.3M in the last decade.

Spot on, especially the part I bolded. I would say that 5.3-5.8mil is what it was worth in 2014, rather than that's what it's worth now . . . but I get the principle and respect it.

This is why I had no problem with signing up for Hagerty's "service", get the code to download the 917 for free, then cancel the Hagerty service before I have to pay for it. I have no issues doing that considering how they speculate the pricing and make the game more ridiculous for the player base.

Not quite with you here, but let me ask a brief question (yes . . . all of this is with the understanding this is a game where we earn credits by playing)

If a car in real life has a tag of over 20 million dollars, should that also be true in Gran Turismo 7? E.G. a Ferrari 250 GTO going for north of $51 Million?



Just a thought; hopeful to learn from your views.

 

[Tommy_D]

If a car in real life has a tag of over 20 million dollars, should that also be true in Gran Turismo 7? E.G. a Ferrari 250 GTO going for north of $51 Million?

I believe the idea was to tie the LCD valuations to real life, however it looks like PD has put some limitations on the maximum credit valuation so it doesn't go insane. As of now, 20M credits seems to be the max. Will that change in the future? I do not know. Maybe it will change in GT8 if they keep the collaboration with Hagerty going.

Here's the thing about all this "speculation" pricing and using that speculation to set values in the LCD: unless the vehicle is actually purchased and a new "paid for" value is set, the value could be anything. Case in point, a Gr.C Porsche 962 went up for auction at Sothebys last year:

1985 Porsche 962 | Le Mans | RM Sotheby's

1985 Porsche 962 for sale at RM Sotheby's Le Mans

rmsothebys.com

The price was speculated to go between €6-9M euros (~$6.5M-10M US dollars). The car did not sell, and no price change was made for the Porsche 962 in the game. That makes sense to me. However, Hagerty could have raised the price of the vehicle to 7M credits (on the lower end of the price speculation scale) and there is nothing us gamers could do to stop them. That seems to be the case for this '97 McLaren Longtail. Hagerty speculates, sets a new price, and the players just have to take it.

I don't think there is an economy problem in GT7, at least not for your ability to "beat" the game or to buy really great driving vehicles (787b or R92CP are relatively cheap for what they deliver), but these 20M credit cars just are not worth the effort, IMO, and I already own them all.

 

[OldandSlow]

Of course. For me, I like to buy the cars and seeing one as a TT (or Weekly Challenge event) is a good reason to buy a car I don't already have. I don't feel I am alone here.

The fact PD put this car in the LCD right as the TT dropped tells me that's what they're offering for people to do... albeit at almost 150% price hike on a car that was already overpriced.


You know the cars aren't real, right?

Jut to make it a little more fun.

 

[Majorlazer]

To think when we first bought the game we thought the prices were eye-watering.

 

[Eggstor]

To think when we first bought the game we thought the prices were eye-watering.

Funny you mention that. We don't have all the post-1.48 prices, so I'll go back to the 1.43 price adjustments. Of the 82 Hagerty's cars that were in the game prior to 1.43, 40 of them cost more than their initial price after that 1.43 adjustment, with 30 the same price and 12 costing less. The net 54,285,100 Cr. increase over initial prices was 18.80%.

Further, one of the cars introduced on or after the 1.43 update had its price increased for 1.48, while the other can't have its post-1.48 price calculated.

 

[Tommy_D]

Of course. For me, I like to buy the cars and seeing one as a TT (or Weekly Challenge event) is a good reason to buy a car I don't already have. I don't feel I am alone here.

The fact PD put this car in the LCD right as the TT dropped tells me that's what they're offering for people to do... albeit at almost 150% price hike on a car that was already overpriced.

At least people can drive the car for free in the TT and see if it is even worth buying. Lots of people have wanted the option of “try before you buy” on these expensive LCD cars. Well, PD is giving you that option.

 

[ItsHim]

But, it's only worth what someone will pay for it. So far only one person has paid ~$5.3M in the last decade.

Yes and no. Theory says there’s the “willingness to offer” and the “willingness to pay”, and humans can value departing with something they already own higher than acquire something new. And the market price doesn’t necessarily reflect the intrinsic worth.

Where the illusion falls apart is that GT isn’t selling 3 cars worldwide to all players, I bet if they did the prices would be in the billion CRs 😉

 

[sswishbone]

You have to remember that 20m credits was the initial maximum a player could hold and only changed post backlash. The Ferrari GTO will hit minimum 50m credits before end of life

 

[AlexWilmot]

You have to remember that 20m credits was the initial maximum a player could hold and only changed post backlash. The Ferrari GTO will hit minimum 50m credits before end of life

and since the credit limit increase 2 years ago, have any car gone over the 20million credit cost? no have any of the 20million credit cars gone over 20million credits? no...

Stop fear mongering

 

[Talon16]

At least people can drive the car for free in the TT and see if it is even worth buying. Lots of people have wanted the option of “try before you buy” on these expensive LCD cars. Well, PD is giving you that option.

Gr2 is used in Sport Mode on occasion, so one's opportunity to try this car has been present many times before this TT.

A test drive option would be cool though. Regardless, not giving PD a pass for upping the price 6mil. I love this car so I bought it way back when it was 10mil. Feel bad for those that didn't, though.

 

[Boxster]

So the entire increase is due to the hike to the F1 GTR.
I do hope PD leaves the Group C prices alone 😱

 

[Eggstor]

So the entire increase is due to the hike to the F1 GTR.
I do hope PD leaves the Group C prices alone 😱

Essentially yes. Except for the Porsche, which will have an indeterminate decrease, and the Sauber Mercedes (for which we have no clue on its post-1.48 price), Group C has been left alone.

 

[OldandSlow]

Essentially yes. Except for the Porsche, which will have an indeterminate decrease, and the Sauber Mercedes (for which we have no clue on its post-1.48 price), Group C has been left alone.

The Group C cars are the bargains in the game. I run most of my Custom races with them. Wish they'd add more.