the media kills your brain

[Mopar Muscle]

i hate the news, whenever i watch it i want to laugh and vomit at the same time. it is not news, it is a cheap form of entertainment. think about it, would all those 'hard working' newscasters be there to 'work for you' if they didn't make money? no, they wouldn't give a s***. and since theres more than one, they compete to give you what you want, like "look at this new ketchup! it's green!" or "ben and jlo are getting married" is this really what we neet to know to make informed decisions in our lives? think back for a minute to the veit nam war, raw footage of u.s. soliders blown to peices and all burned up. you don't see that any more! and why not? because they are trying to conform to what you would want to see because that equals $$$$$$$!!! the war on iraq is still going on because america has not yet seen the raw video footage of the war on iraq. and if they did, the american public would stop the war on iraq like they did with the viet nam war. the news is not news, it is entertainment. keep your eyes open.....

 

[Talentless]

What you present is an exaggeration of the celebrity story issue, all for the purpose of complaining not solely about the lack of indepth reporting, which is a just criticism, but about the lack of the kind of reporting which you believe would result in the outcome your comments imply you prefer, an end to the war. You don't want news, you want propoganda for your own agenda. Had you not said what you believe to be the result of changing the media's presentation of news, you might be viewed as someone honestly interested in objective and complete news, where irrelevancies are not allowed. The commentary in your location also indicates your agenda. Please do not insult our intelligence, and just say you want the war over with instead of poorly attempting to use a non partisan issue to push a partisan agenda.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Mopar Muscle
i hate the news, whenever i watch it i want to laugh and vomit at the same time. it is not news, it is a cheap form of entertainment. think about it, would all those 'hard working' newscasters be there to 'work for you' if they didn't make money? no, they wouldn't give a s***.

Would lawyers? Mechanics? Car salesmen? Gas station attendants? Insurance salesmen? Consultants? Teachers? In fact - I can't think of a SINGLE JOB that a person would work that they would do if they didn't make money. Period.

keep your eyes open.....

...for people like you with strange misconceptions of the world!

 

[Mopar Muscle]

the news is already a propoganda machine. the whole war thing was just an example. what i mean is that the media is simply entertainment and is made to make money and they don't even tell you about what is happening in the world, people need to know certain things that are going on in the world, because if they did problems could be identified soon after they are presented. people would know the circumstances and consequences of a war. i think most people rely on the media for their information on the world and they are not getting the full picture, which forms biast views on the rest of the world (bad!)
forget the whole war on iraq thing, i didn't mean for you to get hung up on that. but what i said before still flies. the media forms a barrier around us that shields us from the rest of the world, telling us what is happening within our own country, state, etc.. i don't know where you guys are from, but the news in southern california, u.s.a. is based around stuf like moviestars, police pursuits, sports, new trends, and stuff like that, after that they maybe throw in some "oh ya, north korea has a few nukes and they violated some pact but guess what celebrity just got caught stealing!" in your reigon, the news may be different and thats why you think that i am an idiot. I just want the media to start informing the public about what really matters, the kind of stuff that can change their life, or their child's life. people can't make informed decisions of they don't know wht the hell is going on.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Mopar Muscle
the news is already a propoganda machine. the whole war thing was just an example. what i mean is that the media is simply entertainment and is made to make money and they don't even tell you about what is happening in the world, people need to know certain things that are going on in the world, because if they did problems could be identified soon after they are presented. people would know the circumstances and consequences of a war. i think most people rely on the media for their information on the world and they are not getting the full picture, which forms biast views on the rest of the world (bad!)
forget the whole war on iraq thing, i didn't mean for you to get hung up on that. but what i said before still flies. the media forms a barrier around us that shields us from the rest of the world, telling us what is happening within our own country, state, etc.. i don't know where you guys are from, but the news in southern california, u.s.a. is based around stuf like moviestars, police pursuits, sports, new trends, and stuff like that, after that they maybe throw in some "oh ya, north korea has a few nukes and they violated some pact but guess what celebrity just got caught stealing!" in your reigon, the news may be different and thats why you think that i am an idiot. I just want the media to start informing the public about what really matters, the kind of stuff that can change their life, or their child's life. people can't make informed decisions of they don't know wht the hell is going on.

Haven't we heard all this before from other radical conspiracy theorists who use vague words like "they" and "the media" and talk about what we 'need' to know? I'm glad we live in a free society, but people like this are an obvious and gaping downside. Can't you move to Canada or something? Or maybe 'the media' can turn off your Internet...

 

[boombexus]

Sounds like you are more upset about your local news stations. I don't know if you are aware that there are other sources to get your news from. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, BBC, McNeil Lerher just to name a few. Definately better sources for news that most of your local channels will offer. You just need to know where to look. Of course your local news is going to report "local" phenomenon and interests. That's why you, living in the SoCal area, hear more about celebrities. Because Hollywood is your "local" area. Duh!

If you chose not to look for a better source of news, then that's your problem. But you speaking for the rest of the public, how the hell do you know? Maybe they are happy seeing their local news. Don't blame the media for giving the consumer what they want.


I remember waking up the morning of September 11th 2001 and seeing planes crash into buildings and burning bodies falling from the WTC. Maybe that's just not enough horrific "raw footage" (as you put it.) for you. I however know, and most of the public know, what happens to people in the wars that followed that dreadful day. I don't want, nor need to see the disfigured bodies displayed for me while I'm trying to eat my dinner, and I certainly don't think anyone else does either. We all know what happens in a war we don't need to have it shoved in our faces and I think the media realizes that.

I think that the media does a rather good job of informing the general public, and there are ton's of places to get our news from and I think that you aren't looking for it, nor do you really want to find it.

 

[Mopar Muscle]

Originally posted by M5Power
Haven't we heard all this before from other radical conspiracy theorists who use vague words like "they" and "the media" and talk about what we 'need' to know? I'm glad we live in a free society, but people like this are an obvious and gaping downside. Can't you move to Canada or something? Or maybe 'the media' can turn off your Internet...

it's not like i wear a tinfoil hat and stuf like that i just don't like the media. i'm not some hermit crab that;s afraid of the world. i'm just a normal guy who doesnt watch the news

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by boombexus
Sounds like you are more upset about your local news stations. I don't know if you are aware that there are other sources to get your news from. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, BBC, McNeil Lerher just to name a few. Definately better sources for news that most of your local channels will offer. You just need to know where look. Of course your local news is going to report "local" phenomenon and interests. That's why you, living in the SoCal area hear more about celebrities. Because Hollywood is your "local" area. Duh!

I was sort of thinking the same thing, but I didn't say it because I'm not a Lexus owner and don't feel worthy.

I think that the media does a rather good job of informing the general public, and there are ton's of places to get our news from and I think that you aren't looking for it, nor do you really want to find it.

Yeah - my point - he just wants to sit around and forumlate conspiracy theories. That location and signature aren't ones for a moderate, clear-thinking American.

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by Mopar Muscle
i'm just a normal guy who doesnt watch the news

How do you stay informed then? Where do you get your news from?

 

[boombexus]

Originally posted by M5Power


I was sort of thinking the same thing, but I didn't say it because I'm not a Lexus owner and don't feel worthy.


[/B]

I'm glad that you know your place Doug. Now go get me a cup of coffee.

Lousy BMW owners. pfft.

 

[Talentless]

If you meant differently than the impression I got, then I apologize. I will assume you did, and as such, I am sorry.

Now, regarding raw and complete footage. There is a misnomer that bias is the complete, unedited airing of every view that can be fit in 3-7 minute segments before commercials begin.

Such a story, as the fictional one I describe below, is an example of the kind of reporting that serves more to try to engender the emotions of guilt, regret and self-loathing, than of trying to present a news story without the seeming intent to portray one side as callous and the other as wholly innocent.

Desk Anchor: "Welcome to INN (Insight News Network), I'm Hal Joran.

It's been three months after the disputed war in She-Lahna, and Boru officials are under international criticism for not giving more attention and aid to the suffering of the innocents in its bombing campaign. Cheif Correspondent Johnathan Sutie has more."

"Thank, Hal. Earlier I visited the northern town of Decra, where Boru fighters mistakenly bombed a village.

*Cut to footage*

"Decra, an ancient city full of proud, yet poor people. No one here expected their proclaimed liberators to do this to them, yet that is exactly what they did. What did they do? Local resident Jamani will tell you."

Translator: "I was sitting in my living room, trying to keep up with the news when I heard this roar. Suddenly there was an explosion. I saw a lot of blood, but I heard the screaming first."

Sutrie: "That screaming would go on for days, as mothers clung to hope that their children weren't one of the unlucky victims of such a tragic mistake.

It's been three months and no form of reparation has yet to come to any of the victims.

The worst hit of all, say town elders, is this man, Gormala.

Translator: "I saw my children asleep, they looked so peaceful. I'd only stepped out for a minute, and then they were gone. Before I could turn one last time to see them, a bomb had dropped. Shrapnel blew in, and then there was silence (crying)."

*Man slowly displays images of his dead children as camera follows at his pace*

Sutrie: "Gormala is a widow, his wife died 4 years ago of breast cancer. He has no one left but his fellow villagers, and his memories, memories that were hard under the former ruler, Sham-Ali, and now still hard under the Boru/Gahsan occupation.

Boru officials say they regret the error and are working on solving the issue, but for many here, it's too little, too late."

*End footage*

Sutrie: "Hal, back to you."

Joran: "Johnathan, thanks for the report."

Now, why is this story biased, and why should it not be in a mainstream, general news broadcast?

 

[Mopar Muscle]

Originally posted by boombexus
How do you stay informed then? Where do you get your news from?

if you study history you can predict the future. i'm not saying i am a psycic because i don't even believe in that chit, people repeat history. it's human nature

 

[Mopar Muscle]

Originally posted by Talentless

Now, why is this story biased, and why should it not be in a mainstream, general news broadcast?

if you are asking me, it's not biased, and it should be in the news.
if people know what is going on now then they can know what to expect in the future. i'm not exactly a historian, but if you ask any historian he will tell you that the key to the future is in the past.

"study history, study history!" -Winston Churchill

 

[Mopar Muscle]

Originally posted by M5Power

Yeah - my point - he just wants to sit around and forumlate conspiracy theories. That location and signature aren't ones for a moderate, clear-thinking American. [/B]

ya, your right i live in a cave in the woods and fear everyone. oh, and i also i sleep under a metal blanket to shield myself from 'their' radiowaves that try to take away my mind.

and the location is an inside joke kinda thing. disredard it.

 

[Talentless]

Under the believe that all information that need not be kept secret is good, I suppose the story is news, but under what context should it be in? Does it belong in a general news broadcast, like BBC World News (aired on some PBS stations and BBCAmerica) or on specialty programs, such as CNN Presents? I believe the latter. Delving into and exposing the kind of detail in the fictional example I gave would serve to reflect even more negatively on one side, and only details what could be said and understood well enough ith a simle adjective. The story could easily be presented by saying there is a village, which Bogru claimed to have bombed by mistake, the people of that village, some say, need help and are owed it by the Bogru. Then the time in the village would simply look at the damage, and get a few statements from the villagers. But it would not use slow camera pans and close ups on emotional scenes with exaggerated displays.

 

[Timmotheus]

Most of the time, I don't mind "the media," except the obvious bias towards the left during elections kind of gets on my nerves.

What did bug me was the asteroid story that was publicized, where there was a 1/990,000 chance that an asteroid would hit the Earth some number of years from now. It rated a danger level of 1 on a 0-10 scale of celestial threat. It seems to me like somebody was bored in some media company's office somewhere, so they went digging for a nonexistant story, which was picked up by nearly every news station in my area, and, possibly, the country.

That is probably riddled with spelling errors that I am too tired to correct. I went rock climbing this morning, it takes a lot out of you.

 

[milefile]

It depends what news you watch. A lot of it is sensationalistic crap, like you say, cheap entertainment. So watch other news. Don't you have cable?

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Makes you wonder what kind of impact a ratings system would have on the media.

The public goes nuts over puttin ratings on violent video games and racy music,... why not dis-allow the media from broadcasting reports of violence before the 11 o'clock session?

 

[Danoff]

Yea, the media sucks.

But don't hate the playa hate the game.

It's the people who sit and watch the news that are the reason you see what you see. They do what gets the most viewers. What you really hate is that people will watch that crap. That's not the newscaster's fault or even the broadcasting company's, they're trying to make a buck.