The REAL ASHAMING EXPERIENCE for the moment *IMO*

[Sven_csm]

Hello everyone,



I would like to post this threat regarding GT Sport to share opinions and clarify if I'm the problem here, or others players share my opinion and position.



I've played the game since the very first day *demo included* and driven more than 35000Kms in-game, half of them with pad, the other with a wheel.



My first overall experience with the game has been very positive, nice graphics, and I've been enjoying a lot the experience, and still at some point. Having waited for the game for a long time like everyone, I really was excited to put my hands on it.

At that points, many GT purists were complaining about the offline content being not good enough, opinion that I didn't share really believing that GT crossed a gap, decided to focus on online racing, idea who attracted me a lot more, having already experienced the super bad IA in game who deserve huge 0, literally. Ununderstandable

But I thought... Well, online racing, online competition, that's the points, I will stick to that because I find it more enjoyable.



The point is, now that I've been advancing much more in the game, I founded a lot, and when I say a lot, its really too many weaknesses in this game though to be a competitive game...

and a lot of them are frankly unacceptable because they're easily fixable, coming from a powerhouse like PoligonyDigital, after I don't remember how many years of development...

Looks like these guys took vacations and stayed more than planned.



First of all, of course, the cars, limited for the moment to ... 200ish cars, many road cars etc... that are good, but really nothing from another world. Even the Gr.3 models are delayed to this year (Ex. Ferrari 488, Huracan Performante, New Mclarens, BMWs etc..) and a lot of cool cars missing. But that just a details cant complain about because we all know about the DLCs etc.. but COME ONN... all these years... for 200 cars...

Vacations were good anyway though... Because they could have done much more, 4k isnt a excuse.



At the other side, what do we get? SURPRISE, we find that in many cases and in the majority of the reduced offered circuits, the fastest cars are generally inexisting and invented cars, like in Gr.3 where the Beetle and the Golf VGT dominated the lap times records, same happens in Gr.1 etc etc...

No doubt that with BOP ON, those are the easiest and fastest cars to drive, being... INEXISTING cars men... COME on ... *****.



Other than this second details, because this is just details, no big deal, let's talk about what really matters ...

This game, as PD has repeated many times, is based on online racing.

There are 2 ways of racing, in Sport mode (Races delayed by 30 or 60 minutes every time lol, so you need to be playing 2 hours)

The second is the Lobby section, where everyone can create its own Lobby and be joined by random players.

The funny thing is, there's no player matching in any way present in this area, and its pretty hard to find nice full Lobby where it would be so easy to include a player matching knowing that in many cases, you find 10 Lobbys with 2 or 3 up to 5 people in them racing the same circuit... In all different lobbys, where the fun is to be the maximum possible... Easy Thing... Why not ?? So easy...



The result of that is always having trouble with playing in a full lobby when a lot of players are available but there no organization. Thanks PD



Like I said, Sports races are just too delayed and not optimised at all, and usually, you wait for more than you race.

Of course, the races are always similar, no pit stops, no strategy, no nothing.

Instead of fixing that, now they switch circuits every day... I mean ... F, No way to be competitive IMO.



So at the end, and like always, we finish up dealing with a huge game with a lot of potentials, but that really is not developed as it should, far away beyond its limits,

I don't care its recent, I paid for it and had 10% of a game and I know it. That is really disapointing.



And what about the number of circuits? The most mithyc one's aren't present, unacceptable for what its pretend to be. Spa... Hello?



I see that this is being too long but the problems are a lot more on the list, without entering into details, but a few of them would be the super glitches who where corrected recently but way too late (they were existing in GT5 or 6 apparently), tons of level 50 glitchers (Tumbs up for them, no problem with that) and Lobby Glitch, without talking about that the game destroys the R2 buttons on DS4 within a months, and no possibility to switch gas pedal to X and brake with R2, of course. genius ? I bough a wheel when I understood that I would end saving up a lot of money.



Last but not least, and really the detail that made me step out of the game for PC2, no telemetry ingame ? I know it would be a details just for a few of us, but weve the right, since this should be the best racing game.

I mean, this is a joke?

Online FIA competitions, online stuff, racing ... And no telemetry? This is not about competition,this is about a bit of driving and that's it.

You've to be using the screen to see your shifter knowing that you can use just 1 screen PS4 ? Competition ? Whaat ? Telemetry ? The banalest things, present in every sim game out there since 2002... And missing here F

I found this a for PD, putting GT for me practically to the level of Need for Speed... And no joking...

And that's abusive because we've been getting used to the best,

after all, I decided to step away from the game while these guys work on the game...



This is a good arcade racing, but nothing more for the moment, even F1 2015 as telemetry, I would love to know the average age of players (in all respects)



Of course, I didn't mention the PS Plus membership, I understand that normal, Okay for me.



Thanks everyone for taking time reading my post and hope to have your feedback, sorry for my English guys,

but what are your thoughts, I'm I crazy or you the game is way lower from his capabilities?



Best regards from Spain.

Posted here too: http://community.eu.playstation.com...NG-EXPERIENCE-for-the-moment-IMO/m-p/25417565

 

[JacksHerer]

I read that, mostly because I'm pretending to be working lol
I find that you can play the game as arcadey or as close to console sim as you choose, eg drive in 3rd person view with aids on, vs drive in cockpit view with no aids on. Drive the cobra in PSVR with a wheel and no aids, on stock tires and it doesn't feel arcadey at all.
As far as telemetry, its fine to be looking at your own data, but looking at a competitors data in the current season? Maybe its something that will later get added, but my experience of the racing on such few laps in traffic means its pointless as no two laps can be compared.
As for age of competitors, I would think playing during school hours or after say 10pm should reduce the number of kids. But I think its peoples mental age that matters rather than physical age.

 

[Sven_csm]

Hello Jack and thanks for replying.

I really maintain everything ive said and heres why,

When writing the post I felt this was going too long, so tried to be brief. I cannot understand how you are so forgiving for a game that has not a lot mythics circuits (and cars) that already were before, like Laguna Seca, Le Mans, Spa, Monza, and a lot more. I never said that the game was bad, I insisted in the fact that the game for me a huge game but in a DEMO stage actually, with a lot of DLCs coming probably but... what about now...

I mean without talking about all the stuff about car physics, car winning system (LOOL), car prices, miles rewards, glitchers, etc... etc... even some Thropies are bad traduced and impossible to understand (In Spanish and French, once I found them in English I understand them)
Reminds me when GTA V Online went out, and that not a good thing.

Playing in cockpit view and without aids its obviously more sensitive and hard, but im sorry, thats far away from being close to a sim or the reality.
For myself I play with no aids (only ABS LOW) 90% of the time and every single time when BOP is on.
For most of Aids, they help you forgiving you doing more mistakes without losing your car, but they make you a lot slower (only exeption are ABS and Counterstreer assitance) but once your driving lines a smooth enough, playing without aids its just a matter of time and practice, and end up being normal.

Regardless the telemetry, circuit telemetry is important and usefull when understanding tracks and racing in general.
Also, and most importantly, I was referring to live telemetry, who gives you the possibility of displaying a lot of data during driving and racing, as for example fuel, position, speed, gear, rev limiter, tire info etc...

In PC2 as an example, as many other racing games (a loot, since 2015) with a simple APP available on the APP Store and Google Play, you can have enable your live telemetry and show many usefull information, displayed on your phone or tablet screen, that will help you a lot improving your driving skills, learning faster lines, better shifts, etc... and also much info during races, very helpful IMO.

Best Redards,
again, excuse my English, probably a ton of bad spelling up there

 

[qwbufp]

Always vote yes to this question lol

 

[uMayBeSeated]

Fyi, I play using X and Square on the DS4 and I have several top 10 leaderboard times in Driving School and I have just shy of a 50% win ratio in Sport Mode... I will say it’s less efficient but it can still be done at a very high level of play.

As for the book you wrote... yeah this game currently blows we all know it. Aspects of it are great but the Sport Mode (the mode this game is based around) is the most boring thing I have ever done in my life. Often I sit on my phone for 15 min and then do a 5 min race and repeat. It’s demoralizing and once I complete 45 more races I’ll be finished with the trophy and I will stick to Lobby Racing with friends for sure. Sport Mode will be dead to me soon enough.

 

[LBDN123]

Fyi, I play using X and Square on the DS4 and I have several top 10 leaderboard times in Driving School and I have just shy of a 50% win ratio in Sport Mode... I will say it’s less efficient but it can still be done at a very high level of play.

As for the book you wrote... yeah this game currently blows we all know it. Aspects of it are great but the Sport Mode (the mode this game is based around) is the most boring thing I have ever done in my life. Often I sit on my phone for 15 min and then do a 5 min race and repeat. It’s demoralizing and once I complete 45 more races I’ll be finished with the trophy and I will stick to Lobby Racing with friends for sure. Sport Mode will be dead to me soon enough.

I suppose it comes down to what appeals to you and what you want from a game.

Personally for me i would rather wait a bit for a race online than race against the AI which is incredibly dull to me.

I can't comment on the lack of enjoyment people suffer from single player mode as i have only ever touched this once with the exception of the odd time trial so it would be unfair of me to really comment on anything in that area but the game was purposely designed with the main intention being online racing and from that perspective it's very good.

 

[uMayBeSeated]

I suppose it comes down to what appeals to you and what you want from a game.

Personally for me i would rather wait a bit for a race online than race against the AI which is incredibly dull to me.

I can't comment on the lack of enjoyment people suffer from single player mode as i have only ever touched this once with the exception of the odd time trial so it would be unfair of me to really comment on anything in that area but the game was purposely designed with the main intention being online racing and from that perspective it's very good.

I enjoy online racing far more than Campaign. I just think the online is in a bad place right now and dying off. Every night I race against a lot of the same people. Shows how little people are playing it if you see the same faces on a regular basis. I’m very optimistic about the future of the game though. I want nothing more than to see this game succeed.

 

[GTWelsh]

I enjoy online racing far more than Campaign. I just think the online is in a bad place right now and dying off. Every night I race against a lot of the same people. Shows how little people are playing it if you see the same faces on a regular basis. I’m very optimistic about the future of the game though. I want nothing more than to see this game succeed.

Lobby or Sport? I stay away from Sport really, did really well in series 3 and it's still testing so I can't be bothered until setups are unlocked (if they do get unlocked).

 

[JacksHerer]

I'm used to not getting every thing I want in life, I'm able to compromise and that extends to games. I make the best of whats available. I have other driving games that meet different needs, but I've neglected them since day 1 on GT Sport. If I could have all these games merged into one, I would never need to buy another game on the current console.
I'm ready for more real world tracks and I'm in no doubt that they are coming.
I had two suzuka races back to back last night with a smoke and cup of tea during the break. Both races more than 10 cars split by 1 second in qualifying, yes my viper was surrounded by meganes and scirrocos, but I knew where to defend and where to attack because I know the track very well. I loved it, but it was intense. I didn't think my heart could handle another race so intense, so I chilled and studied the replays from other drivers perspective.
For me, there is so much right about GTS that it seems petty worrying about what could be better, just drive at your best and spend time on a qualifying lap and you will have the most intense races - IF you can handle the car and know the track of course!

 

[mirial]

Surprising that 84% chose yes on a forum that claims to be liberal for a guy who has made a sincere effort that is not in his first language with a number of perfectly legit ongoing issues that we do all indeed know about. It would have been much easier to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might not be quite just as familiar with it as most, culture differences, some isolation perhaps, but many took this is an opportunity to boost their self esteem.

 

[Sven_csm]

I think I clearly made the point explaining well enough (best i could) that I dont believe that the game is bad ... in overall note its a fun good game,
but just not what I (personally) was expecting for the first PS4 GT in 4k, FIA I dont know what, blablabla...
GT Sport is for the moment a banal normal racing game with nice graphics.

What im trying to say is that the game is not optimised at all for its capabilities.

I will stick to the example of comparing it with the case of GTA V Online.
In 2014 (When launched in PS4) the game was a total unplayable mess, with to many problems and no content. Nowadays its a amazing game, one of the most played ones (Best year sales was 2016 I think) so within a 2 year delay after launch of the game.

Im just sad to see that PD is taking the same way that Rockstar with a DLC system after 4 years of doing it (lol)

Ps. People who are talking about doing the carrer in gold and stuff like that, were not playing racing games in the same optic.
Doing carrer, circuits experiences etc.. in gold is easy as **** once youre a smooth driving (I speak of course if you use a wheel, all my props and respects for ones that use with Pad)
Im referring to more competitive competition (that why telemetry, as other racing simulator) at the end, I understand that finally GT Sport its just not a simulator, good to know.
Funny enough, with the last update they changed the rules and times for many many races and missions. What should we do? drivers who have done it before the update, when touching a wall or idiot IA car will cost you 2 a seconds penalty?
For me gold carrer, trophies and stuff, pictures are inexisting for me.

Im talking about racing, Tunes, positive competition and laptimes, ending in good fun.

Surprising that 84% chose yes on a forum that claims to be liberal for a guy who has made a sincere effort that is not in his first language with a number of perfectly legit ongoing issues that we do all indeed know about. It would have been much easier to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might not be quite just as familiar with it as most, culture differences, some isolation perhaps, but many took this is an opportunity to boost their self esteem.

Thanks for your message mate ! Really apreciate it.

Its true that in French or Spanish it would easier for me but its a good way to practice my english

Im also very happy with getting feedbacks, knowing what people think is really a positive think. Not being in the majority has never molested me .

At the end I really believe that switching platforms to PC would be the best solution,
I will keep the PS4 as a media centre and for friends kids on occasions when they come home.

 

[Sven_csm]

Fyi, I play using X and Square on the DS4 and I have several top 10 leaderboard times in Driving School and I have just shy of a 50% win ratio in Sport Mode... I will say it’s less efficient but it can still be done at a very high level of play.

As for the book you wrote... yeah this game currently blows we all know it. Aspects of it are great but the Sport Mode (the mode this game is based around) is the most boring thing I have ever done in my life. Often I sit on my phone for 15 min and then do a 5 min race and repeat. It’s demoralizing and once I complete 45 more races I’ll be finished with the trophy and I will stick to Lobby Racing with friends for sure. Sport Mode will be dead to me soon enough.

50% Win ratio in Sport Mode ? Really?

So you win 1 race out of 2 ?

I mean... What do you mean by 50% Win Ratio ? You consider winning crossing the line first or simply crossing the line ?

Youre talking speaking about high end times and use your leaderboard as reference ? Using X for the gas paddle ? Are you serious ?

Ahaha, anyway, thanks for reading the "Book I Wrote" and thanks for replying.

.. OR, maybe they are people who see beneath the pretty surface and numbers in games. Game are sold like women's magazine these days - yelling 100 of this, 30 of that, 57 ways of things, 45 stuff..

Very true.

Game sold pretty well but... only within the 2 first weeks, after that the decrease huge, with BlackFryday approaching.
now second hand market is floaded of GT Sport for sell under 20 euros.

The game was available during Black Fryday here in Spain for about 22 euros for the basic and 35 new for the Deluxe Version in a ton of stores, where the initial prices were about 59 and 69 I think, for a 1 month old game.

No other racing game depreciated as this one, after 1 month launch... even super old games old some more value.
Theres more Gt Sport Games today in 2 hand market in Spain than practically any other, thats scaring.

Lobby or Sport? I stay away from Sport really, did really well in series 3 and it's still testing so I can't be bothered until setups are unlocked (if they do get unlocked).

I play Lobby mostly when Im with 5 or 6 friends and know well the drivers, so we can stick up and have a fun race.

Otherwise in Lobby Mode most people will not follow the rhythm, so you race a lot alone vs the clock.
Someones will follow and youll have some fun, but hard to find clean drivers, but theyre many of them (Ive 65 friends on my list profile that are all good fast and clean drivers)

I mostly play on Sport Mode when im alone and are fast enough to compete well.
Of course, when driving smooth, you SR and DR increase very fast so you really always play with clean and fast guys.
Once your DR or SR decrease for some reason, you race then with much slower players, so its easier to win races and your marks go up again.

If I dont like the circuit or dont know it perfectly, I stay in Lobby mode learning the track.

 

[Spurgy 777]

Surprising that 84% chose yes on a forum that claims to be liberal for a guy who has made a sincere effort that is not in his first language with a number of perfectly legit ongoing issues that we do all indeed know about. It would have been much easier to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might not be quite just as familiar with it as most, culture differences, some isolation perhaps, but many took this is an opportunity to boost their self esteem.

I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the people that voted yes just did it simply because he asked the question regardless of what he was actually saying, it is the typical response after all when asking the internet if you’re crazy, so I wouldn’t take it too seriously

 

[Johnnypenso]

Third post in a row. ...

Just a heads up Sven, you should try and avoid double and triple posting. Use the little "+ Quote" button below each post you want to respond to by clicking it and then at the bottom of the page click on "Insert Quotes" and each post you want to respond to will automatically appear in your post. Double and triple posting (making posts one after the other without other people responding in between) is frowned upon at GTP.

 

[Sven_csm]

I wouldn’t be surprised if most of the people that voted yes just did it simply because he asked the question regardless of what he was actually saying, it is the typical response after all when asking the internet if you’re crazy, so I wouldn’t take it too seriously

I dont mind if peoples answer yes, I really dont. But like to see what people think and expect while playing.

Just a heads up Sven, you should try and avoid double and triple posting. Use the little "+ Quote" button below each post you want to respond to by clicking it and then at the bottom of the page click on "Insert Quotes" and each post you want to respond to will automatically appear in your post. Double and triple posting (making posts one after the other without other people responding in between) is frowned upon at GTP.

Thanks Johnny, I was looking for how to do it.

Thanks for your answers.

 

[MrTwo192]

You aren't crazy. I make the same complaints about fake cars and lack of variety of tracks, especially real ones. Also, the jump from 1.05 to 1.06 update is a complete mess, screwed up BoP badly and makes the game far less rewarding to drive. Hopefully 1.07 dials back the grip changes a bit and fixes the Gr4 BoP so the FF cars aren't so much faster.

I was surprised as much as you were that someone can run top 10 times with a controller. But then I started seeing it first hand, especially people who have been driving GT with a controller for nearly 2 decades now since the 1st one came out. There are things this series does and has historically done to make this game much more approachable than other "console sims", and it gives the controller driver a much better possibility to be competitive.

As far as the price dropping so rapidly and so many already available second hand, this really goes back to I think many GT series loyalists bought it without paying attention that this game was not like the rest of the series, and quit without giving it a chance. Amazon and other online marketplace reviews show this. I don't think it's too crazy though, PCars2 has been on sale at discounted prices since black Friday as well. I think those people will be disappointed they quit so early when 1.07 brings back a more full campaign mode, personally I have no interest in that.

I think if you go into the game with an open mind the game is a lot of fun despite all of the issues. Sport mode has gone through a few changes, and hopefully they keep making adjustments to find a setup that is good. I liked it a few weeks ago when the race start times were set up to jump right from one race to start the next within 10 minutes, there is just too much queue time right now. Also the one make races with the Mazda6 are terrible. that car is just not good, the racing is just a parade at WOT.

I quit the GT franchise many years ago after GT4 because I didn't see the game progressing as I expected. This is the first title I came back to, I bought a PS4 specifically in anticipation for it over 2 years ago and was very excited for the new direction. I don't want to go back to Assetto Corsa or PCars2 now because it lacks the organized online competitive element sport mode provides.

 

[Sven_csm]

You aren't crazy. I make the same complaints about fake cars and lack of variety of tracks, especially real ones. Also, the jump from 1.05 to 1.06 update is a complete mess, screwed up BoP badly and makes the game far less rewarding to drive. Hopefully 1.07 dials back the grip changes a bit and fixes the Gr4 BoP so the FF cars aren't so much faster.

I was surprised as much as you were that someone can run top 10 times with a controller. But then I started seeing it first hand, especially people who have been driving GT with a controller for nearly 2 decades now since the 1st one came out. There are things this series does and has historically done to make this game much more approachable than other "console sims", and it gives the controller driver a much better possibility to be competitive.

As far as the price dropping so rapidly and so many already available second hand, this really goes back to I think many GT series loyalists bought it without paying attention that this game was not like the rest of the series, and quit without giving it a chance. Amazon and other online marketplace reviews show this. I don't think it's too crazy though, PCars2 has been on sale at discounted prices since black Friday as well. I think those people will be disappointed they quit so early when 1.07 brings back a more full campaign mode, personally I have no interest in that.

I think if you go into the game with an open mind the game is a lot of fun despite all of the issues. Sport mode has gone through a few changes, and hopefully they keep making adjustments to find a setup that is good. I liked it a few weeks ago when the race start times were set up to jump right from one race to start the next within 10 minutes, there is just too much queue time right now. Also the one make races with the Mazda6 are terrible. that car is just not good, the racing is just a parade at WOT.

I quit the GT franchise many years ago after GT4 because I didn't see the game progressing as I expected. This is the first title I came back to, I bought a PS4 specifically in anticipation for it over 2 years ago and was very excited for the new direction. I don't want to go back to Assetto Corsa or PCars2 now because it lacks the organized online competitive element sport mode provides.

Thanks for taking time to read and add your experience and feelings.

For sure many of those little details can be fixed (so I dont understand why do they take so long to improve them) regarding cars and the rest.
The reason why im probably stopping GT and PS4 is simply because i feel that PD doesnt take the direction simulation for a more open arcadey attack.

Also after patch 1.06 that I like and enjoy, the physics changes went to easy up to very easy... So I dont know what to expect for the future.
Maybe a very very very easy mode upcoming ?
I mean, when I saw that they readjusted the for TS 3 and more... I though it was a joke. (Because that means that most people play with the TS on 3 or more)
I would understood that they work the physics for TS in 0 1 and 2, doing something for drivers and pushing them to decrease the TS level for better learning and ending up having better skills at the end.

The offline content with the campaign sounds good but with this IA Ill not be that enthousiaste.
In the picture of the upcoming DLCS, seems like 1st place in some championship pays 20 MILLIONS, haha.

Funny fact, I the period where I most enjoyed playing was with the 10 minutes delayed Sport Races.

In the morning I was doing a Quali time and racing the rest of the time, that was super nice.

 

[LBDN123]

I enjoy online racing far more than Campaign. I just think the online is in a bad place right now and dying off. Every night I race against a lot of the same people. Shows how little people are playing it if you see the same faces on a regular basis. I’m very optimistic about the future of the game though. I want nothing more than to see this game succeed.

Give it time. The game has not long been out. I imagine once more people have done the single player items then more people will gravitate towards sport mode.

 

[MrTwo192]

I think it's funny the way the update release was worded. They say TC3+ was updated, but TC0-2 were definitely impacted by the other changes they made to grip levels. I think TC2 is now useless in 1.06, as it seems to be lag a lot and allow wheel flare, then when it does kick in it becomes very intrusive, pulling power and it's very slow. I thought was a good safety net in 1.05 without aggressively slowing the car down, now that is lost and I only drive in TCS0. They may not have changed the TCS0-2 logic directly, but the other changes they made definitely had an effect.

 

[Sven_csm]

I think it's funny the way the update release was worded. They say TC3+ was updated, but TC0-2 were definitely impacted by the other changes they made to grip levels. I think TC2 is now useless in 1.06, as it seems to be lag a lot and allow wheel flare, then when it does kick in it becomes very intrusive, pulling power and it's very slow. I thought was a good safety net in 1.05 without aggressively slowing the car down, now that is lost and I only drive in TCS0. They may not have changed the TCS0-2 logic directly, but the other changes they made definitely had an effect.

Absolutely yes, but like they didnt mention nothing about it, I understand the physics changes were enough to control wheel spin.

Before patch I was playing between 2 and 1, but never on 0.
Now I play between 0 and 1, depending on car and track of course.
Im talking about BOP cars of course, for non BOP its another other story.

 

[uMayBeSeated]

Surprising that 84% chose yes on a forum that claims to be liberal for a guy who has made a sincere effort that is not in his first language with a number of perfectly legit ongoing issues that we do all indeed know about. It would have been much easier to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might not be quite just as familiar with it as most, culture differences, some isolation perhaps, but many took this is an opportunity to boost their self esteem.

I chose yes simply because the poll was irrelevant to the post

 

[Deadheadbill]

Surprising that 84% chose yes on a forum that claims to be liberal for a guy who has made a sincere effort that is not in his first language with a number of perfectly legit ongoing issues that we do all indeed know about. It would have been much easier to give him the benefit of the doubt and consider that he might not be quite just as familiar with it as most, culture differences, some isolation perhaps, but many took this is an opportunity to boost their self esteem.

I think maybe you are reading too much into this.

 

[uMayBeSeated]

50% Win ratio in Sport Mode ? Really?

So you win 1 race out of 2 ?

I mean... What do you mean by 50% Win Ratio ? You consider winning crossing the line first or simply crossing the line ?

Youre talking speaking about high end times and use your leaderboard as reference ? Using X for the gas paddle ? Are you serious ?

Ahaha, anyway, thanks for reading the "Book I Wrote" and thanks for replying.

I do mean 50% first place ratio lol yes... I have done like 277 Races or something like that and won 137.

Also dead serious about using X as the gas haha I don’t feel comfortable using/breaking R2. I don’t like the hand position for the triggers and honestly I have heard that R2 can’t held being mashed down constantly without breaking in someway in like 2-3 months time.

You’re welcome btw

 

[Sven_csm]

I do mean 50% first place ratio lol yes... I have done like 277 Races or something like that and won 137.

Also dead serious about using X as the gas haha I don’t feel comfortable using/breaking R2. I don’t like the hand position for the triggers and honestly I have heard that R2 can’t held being mashed down constantly without breaking in someway in like 2-3 months time.

You’re welcome btw

So your ratio is pretty impressive, would like to learn some tips from you
How did you manage to know how much races have you done and have you win ?
So then you have the PSN trophees of wining I dont know how much poles and races in Sport Mode (I think Ayrton Senna en Michal Schumacher, not sure)

 

[MrTwo192]

The achievements screen under your profile. It's also available on the Gran Turismo website when you log into the community site and go to your profile.

 

[uMayBeSeated]

So your ratio is pretty impressive, would like to learn some tips from you
How did you manage to know how much races have you done and have you win ?
So then you have the PSN trophees of wining I dont know how much poles and races in Sport Mode (I think Ayrton Senna en Michal Schumacher, not sure)

When you are looking at your profile or anyone’s profile in the game you can go to the Achievements tab and the pink section has 4 Sport Mode in game Achievements you can view. Clean Race Streak, Pole Positions, Races Completed, and Wins.

 

[Spurgy 777]

I enjoy online racing far more than Campaign. I just think the online is in a bad place right now and dying off. Every night I race against a lot of the same people. Shows how little people are playing it if you see the same faces on a regular basis. I’m very optimistic about the future of the game though. I want nothing more than to see this game succeed.

If you're winning most of your races and getting into the top 10 on the leaderboards, then realistically there aren't many people for you to be matched against so it has no reflection on how many people are playing. A better indication is the quality of the field you're racing against as if the number of people playing starts to drop then the matchmaking will get worse and worse as there's less people of the same speed for you to be matched against. Personally I haven't seen any drop in the quality of the field. Granted I'm also usually in or near the top 10 so the players I get put against probably play more than most people, so we're the less likely to notice, but just a couple of hours ago, a time of day where you wouldn't expect to see many people on, I was put in with 4 other people from the top 10 in the leaderboard with the top 4 separated by just 0.15 seconds. And ever since I got to A rank I'm pretty much guaranteed to have someone from the top 10 in my lobby no matter when I search for a race, it seems the only way I can start on pole is to have the fastest time in Europe.

 

[Sven_csm]

Personally im not even close to the top 10 leaderboard times yet, normally always 1s up to 2s seconds slower... depending on tracks.

 

[Spurgy 777]

Personally im not even close to the top 10 leaderboard times yet, normally always 1s up to 2s seconds slower... depending on tracks.

How consistent is the matchmaking for you though? Are the gaps in lap times between the drivers in your races normally quite close, have they been getting bigger or smaller?

 

[uMayBeSeated]

If you're winning most of your races and getting into the top 10 on the leaderboards, then realistically there aren't many people for you to be matched against so it has no reflection on how many people are playing. A better indication is the quality of the field you're racing against as if the number of people playing starts to drop then the matchmaking will get worse and worse as there's less people of the same speed for you to be matched against. Personally I haven't seen any drop in the quality of the field. Granted I'm also usually in or near the top 10 so the players I get put against probably play more than most people, so we're the less likely to notice, but just a couple of hours ago, a time of day where you wouldn't expect to see many people on, I was put in with 4 other people from the top 10 in the leaderboard with the top 4 separated by just 0.15 seconds. And ever since I got to A rank I'm pretty much guaranteed to have someone from the top 10 in my lobby no matter when I search for a race, it seems the only way I can start on pole is to have the fastest time in Europe.

I’m typically on right when the server resets the daily race and I usually battle for the number 1 Top 10 Spot for a little which helps but by mid day I’m probably closer to Top 25 at that point. I am on the NA servers though.