The simple setup-guide

[zocker_16]

I think it´s very hard to understand setup-guides (could be my bad english)
So I want to make a threat where settings should be presented very simple.
I dont know what many things in the setup do with the car on track.
For example Camber Angle what can i make with it? I set it on 0 on 5 or 10
i thougt there was no diffrent.

First tip: ride height always high as possible so you can drive faster rounds on tracks because your car doesn´t understear.

 

[revelli]

yea, the same problem with me.
i set up cars damper to maximum bound and rebound, but i dont feel the different with only 6 points on this parts
same goes for toe and almost everything from suspension menu

 

[a112]

Whell,read yourself Scaff's Tuning guides

Clicky

You will learn,believe me,it is easy to understand

 

[the Interceptor]

I know a lot of beginners wish for it, but setting up a car just isn't as simple as turning on the lights. You got to invest some time, read a lot and understand how things work, otherwise you're just guessing. And generalizing things like "the ride height always to the max" is not only wrong, but way too easy.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[viperpilot]

and you can get some hints from watching very good setups like the ones from Duck, i know making your own setup is always better because of the different driving-styles, but so you can get a hint.

viper

 

[guska]

My advice, take the setups from one of the guides in the GT4 Car Tuning & Settings section, and also READ the guides, and not just use the settings, that way you can fine tune then for you own purposes once you have a little bit of understanding about what changes the different settings make.

Scaff's tuning guides are probably a good place to start, as he must have OCD when it comes to detail.

Don't use any one guide as your 'bible', as there are quite a few great quality guide out there, with Duck's Set-Up Workshop being another note-worthy read.

I hope this helps

The REAL gOoSe

 

[sutton.a]

I"m just starting to get into the tuning stage

Know most of the stuff except for camber, toe, rebound, bounce ect.

 

[Ermac26]

I know you guys are in the market for tips and tricks with settings. But there really isn't anything people can say so I'll save them the typing, There really is nothing people can say to help with this portion of the game. what it boils down to is how you drive. EVERYONE on this forum site drives differently. I drive different then you, GT4_Rule, Swiff, etc. They drive different then each other, etc etc. What others are going to say is this, play with the settings until you find a basis that works for you. There is really nothing anyone can say that'll make it easier for you. It is difficult at first but gets easy with time once you realize how each setting affects the car.

So, just try doing trial and error to see what works for you. If you are in need of help, let me or others know and we'll do our best.

thanks for reading and hope this is useful but I doubt it,

 

[a112]

I know you guys are in the market for tips and tricks with settings. But there really isn't anything people can say so I'll save them the typing, There really is nothing people can say to help with this portion of the game. what it boils down to is how you drive. EVERYONE on this forum site drives differently. I drive different then you, GT4_Rule, Swiff, etc. They drive different then each other, etc etc. What others are going to say is this, play with the settings until you find a basis that works for you. There is really nothing anyone can say that'll make it easier for you. It is difficult at first but gets easy with time once you realize how each setting affects the car.

So, just try doing trial and error to see what works for you. If you are in need of help, let me or others know and we'll do our best.

thanks for reading and hope this is useful but I doubt it,

Whell,true is for driving styles,but Scaff's guides can help you at least with explanation what settings do what,ie. what you get when the front camber is set more than stock setup...

 

[Scaff]

There is really nothing anyone can say that'll make it easier for you. It is difficult at first but gets easy with time once you realize how each setting affects the car.

So, just try doing trial and error to see what works for you. If you are in need of help, let me or others know and we'll do our best.

thanks for reading and hope this is useful but I doubt it,

While you are right that it is not possiable to say 'always use bound set to X for track Y', as every driver's style is different.

I would disagree that that means nothing will help, the very reason that I wrote my set-up guides in the way I did was to get over this issue and encourage people to try tuning for themselves. While no fixed setting can ever be used by all driver/car/track combo's, the basic effect that can be achieved is the same and certain basics can be applied on a wider basis (for example lighter cars will require softer springs and dampers to a heavier car.

Whell,true is for driving styles,but Scaff's guides can help you at least with explanation what settings do what,ie. what you get when the front camber is set more than stock setup...

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Exactly, thanks a112 abarth

Regards

Scaff

 

[zocker_16]

I know you guys are in the market for tips and tricks with settings. But there really isn't anything people can say so I'll save them the typing, There really is nothing people can say to help with this portion of the game. what it boils down to is how you drive. EVERYONE on this forum site drives differently. I drive different then you, GT4_Rule, Swiff, etc. They drive different then each other, etc etc. What others are going to say is this, play with the settings until you find a basis that works for you. There is really nothing anyone can say that'll make it easier for you. It is difficult at first but gets easy with time once you realize how each setting affects the car.

So, just try doing trial and error to see what works for you. If you are in need of help, let me or others know and we'll do our best.

thanks for reading and hope this is useful but I doubt it,

Thats right but there are setting which are faster then other ones for example the riding high I had a perfekt round on Apricot with riding high 55 but after swich it on 90 I was 0.5 sec faster because I could drive faster around the curves.
Is there the same effect with spring rate???

 

[Scaff]

Thats right but there are setting which are faster then other ones for example the riding high I had a perfekt round on Apricot with riding high 55 but after swich it on 90 I was 0.5 sec faster because I could drive faster around the curves.
Is there the same effect with spring rate???

Or you could have just driven the lap quicker, I'm sorry but I have carried out hundereds of hours of testing in the GT series (many for writing the GT4 set-up guides) and while it may be better for you I seriously doubt that it will be quicker for everyone.

For a start increasing the ride height will raise the cars centre of gravity, which in turn will increase load transfer and generally result in a quick on-set of understeer.

Increasing ride height does not automatically give quicker laps, tuning is far more complex that that.

AS has already been mentioned, try reading a few of the set-up guides here, mine in particular are used by a number of members who do not use English as a first language, simply because they are written in a way that can be easily understood.

Regards

Scaff

 

[zefff]

As a young tuner with an erratic driving style, what I learnt most from Scaffs guides is how to approach and deal with the relationship between the front and rear halves of the car in GT4.

Even if (like me) you dislike stable setups you will learn loads if you take the time to absorb the knowledge other people have gathered. It really does provide a great basis to generate setups you will be happy with and more in control of.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Tunig is, as being said, very complex when it comes to driving styles. But if you are an inexperienced tuner, guidlines will do perfectly well until you know what part does what, and how to make the setups suit your style better.
Unfortunatly there are several guides here, so you will have to try out a few to see wich ones suit you the best. From what I understand, inexperinced tuners seem to like Ducks setups better, but maybe my understanding comes from their abundance... Either way, Ducks setups are good startingpoints and hints to become better at tuning! And the different guides are of course mandatory!

 

[Ermac26]

Scaff = sorry for my comment. The point I was trying to get accross was that someone can post in this thread a setting for a car that works best for him / her whos posts the setting but doesn't mean it'll work for the original thread starter. I wasn't trying to discourage people from using your tuning guied. in fact, I had forgotten to mention your tuning guide
Next time I post I'll be sure to include the important threads and stuff to make my point a little more clear.

Again, I do appologize for the misunderstanding of my above post.

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[Scaff]

Scaff = sorry for my comment. The point I was trying to get accross was that someone can post in this thread a setting for a car that works best for him / her whos posts the setting but doesn't mean it'll work for the original thread starter. I wasn't trying to discourage people from using your tuning guied. in fact, I had forgotten to mention your tuning guide
Next time I post I'll be sure to include the important threads and stuff to make my point a little more clear.

Again, I do appologize for the misunderstanding of my above post.

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Not a problem at all



Scaff