The Stockholm riots.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909

In all honesty, after hearing about this stuff, I'm utterly shocked, but also pissed off. So, the cops shot a threatening man to death, and as a result, the local youth, comprising of immigrants, began rioting all over the place.

This is only my opinion, but news like this only prove why it's a complete mistake to ever take that many refugees into civilized countries. They get offended more easily than any person I've ever seen and are clearly not afraid to show their violent nature. Apparently the cops should've allowed the man to stab them so these animals could've been happy. Or maybe they would've just found another excuse to riot. Who knows.

And some of you still wonder why I'm intolerant towards foreign cultures? Yeah yeah, there'll be people who get offended at me now. I admit I'm not a saint, but I'm also not even a generalizer, I welcome every hard-working, rationally thinking immigrant to my country without second thoughts. As for rapists, rioters and stabbers, there's plenty of space for them in northern/eastern Russia. :)
 
I more or less agree.. Sadly, current policies of EU forces them upon us with their regulations, completely disregarding the clash of cultures. That is why we get news like this more regularly.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909
Rioters have lit fires and stoned emergency services in the suburbs of Stockholm for the third night in a row after a man was shot dead by police.

Incidents were reported in at least nine suburbs of the Swedish capital and police made eight arrests.

On Sunday night, more than 100 cars were set alight, Swedish media report.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22622909

In all honesty, after hearing about this stuff, I'm utterly shocked, but also pissed off. So, the cops shot a threatening man to death, and as a result, the local youth, comprising of immigrants, began rioting all over the place.

This is only my opinion, but news like this only prove why it's a complete mistake to ever take that many refugees into civilized countries. They get offended more easily than any person I've ever seen and are clearly not afraid to show their violent nature. Apparently the cops should've allowed the man to stab them so these animals could've been happy. Or maybe they would've just found another excuse to riot. Who knows.

And some of you still wonder why I'm intolerant towards foreign cultures? Yeah yeah, there'll be people who get offended at me now. I admit I'm not a saint, but I'm also not even a generalizer, I welcome every hard-working, rationally thinking immigrant to my country without second thoughts. As for rapists, rioters and stabbers, there's plenty of space for them in northern/eastern Russia. :)
It's funny because the same thing - literally exactly the same thing - happened in London a year ago and there wasn't exactly a shortage of pasty-faced WASP youths setting fire to things and nicking stuff from shops.

Being a 🤬 moron knows no boundaries of race, creed, ethnicity, colour, nationality or religion. I don't know why you prefer to think it does.
 
All this rioting and commotion, and the police have arrested only 8 people? Uh, Sweden...what were you doing with all that tax revenue?
 
Wait I don't get it, so what exactly are they mad about? Is it their culture isn't easily received, because if so...they do realize that the natives born were their first?
 
It's probably no different to the London riots, they're rioting because they can.
 
Police brutality, that one never gets old.

It's so weird that no one I know ever gets manhandled by cops, you know? We must be like the luckiest people, ever. Of course, now that I just jinxed myself, I'll probably get beat up for driving to work, or grocery shopping, because you know, these cops are always just driving around, looking for people to shoot at. :lol:
 
Poverty perhaps has a hand?

No.

People thinking they're entitled to more than they have for no other reason than other people having more than them has a hand, though.

More than a few people caught on cameras and eventually arrested in the London riots came from middle-class backgrounds. They just saw riots as an excuse to act up, and an excuse to gain the things in life they believe they're "entitled" to.

Immigrants aren't a disease. People of any culture feeling the world owes them something is a disease.
 
People of any culture feeling the world owes them something is a disease.
Welcome to America. I won't point any fingers but if you've ever lived in or studied American society you probably know about our generations-old emotional...issues...that are not only kept alive by stubborn hillbillies but also by the same people who preach about ending it. Oh, but that's not enough, no. Now they're spreading it to other cultures, to the point where any immigrant coming to the US who isn't white as toothpaste should either be killed, deported, or put to work in a cotton field. And while we're at it, let's close our borders like North Korea because Jesus was white and that's what he would've done.

Merica.
 
The notion of Sweden as a safe, peaceful and orderly place is being shattered.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22656657#
The BBC's Stephen Evans in Stockholm: "The whole policy of immigration and integration is being questioned"

Sweden riots spread beyond Stockholm despite extra police

There has been a sixth night of rioting in Sweden's capital, Stockholm, despite police reinforcements being deployed.

Cars were set alight in poor suburbs inhabited largely by immigrants, although the unrest was reportedly not as serious as on previous nights.

The rioting also spread outside the capital for the first time on Friday, with youths torching vehicles and buildings in two towns.


The US and UK meanwhile warned their citizens to avoid affected areas.
 
Maybe they should let the good people have guns so they can defend themselves against this stuff. From what I understand, shotguns are legal in the UK, I don't know about other parts of Europe. I have a cousin who is living in Sweden, hope she is safe.
 
You are gonna stir up the anti's. :lol:

It does remind me of this though:

nydailynews.com
As the fierce London riots head into their fourth day, it seems locals are stocking up - on baseball bats.

Sales of the Rucanor Aluminum Baseball Bat shot up 5,149% on the United Kingdom's Amazon.com website.
The bats, which cost about $27, are the 125th most popular item in the sports and leisure section of the website.

Out of the top 10 movers and shakers in that section, seven were baseball bats.
Sales for Bronx 32" Wooden Baseball bats rose 3,664% to rank 186th on the sports and leisure website and Midwest Adult Slugger Wood Bats rose 3,505% to be the 158th most popular item.
Military police telescope sales also went up 5,010%


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...ach-fourth-day-article-1.947741#ixzz2UKcKd7H9

I hope I'd never have to go through something like that.
 
Cricket bats are where it's at

shaun-of-the-dead-cricket-bat.jpg
 
Rioters in those situations slow though & they can't throw. :lol:

I keep a kid's aluminum baseball bat in my car. Also a busted up gear shift lever, which happens to be a foot & half long & very heavy. I'm evil.
 
Welcome to America. I won't point any fingers but if you've ever lived in or studied American society you probably know about our generations-old emotional...issues...that are not only kept alive by stubborn hillbillies but also by the same people who preach about ending it. Oh, but that's not enough, no. Now they're spreading it to other cultures, to the point where any immigrant coming to the US who isn't white as toothpaste should either be killed, deported, or put to work in a cotton field. And while we're at it, let's close our borders like North Korea because Jesus was white and that's what he would've done.
Merica.

You always have your far left and far right elements in any Country but to paint anything close to the majority in the light of, "any immigrant coming to the US who isn't white as toothpaste should either be killed, deported, or put to work in a cotton field" is baloney pure and simple. The vast, vast majority of Americans and Canadians are much closer to the political centre and don't give a crap about where immigrants come from, so long as they are willing to work hard and obey the law.

You'll always have looney tunes on both sides of the issue, some who don't want borders and some who want walls put up. The vast majority of people are right in the middle.
 
you always have your far left and far right elements in any country but to paint anything close to the majority in the light of, "any immigrant coming to the us who isn't white as toothpaste should either be killed, deported, or put to work in a cotton field" is baloney pure and simple. The vast, vast majority of americans and canadians are much closer to the political centre and don't give a crap about where immigrants come from, so long as they are willing to work hard and obey the law.

You'll always have looney tunes on both sides of the issue, some who don't want borders and some who want walls put up. The vast majority of people are right in the middle.

+1
 
In all honesty, after hearing about this stuff, I'm utterly shocked, but also pissed off. So, the cops shot a threatening man to death, and as a result, the local youth, comprising of immigrants, began rioting all over the place.

This is only my opinion, but news like this only prove why it's a complete mistake to ever take that many refugees into civilized countries. They get offended more easily than any person I've ever seen and are clearly not afraid to show their violent nature.

Way to be racist, dude. If you spent all your life being treated like a second class citizen by the police and the authorities, always suspected, always controlled, then rest assured that you would be just as "easily offended".
And what do you mean by "their violent nature"? Are you saying that native swedes (or finns) are peaceful by nature?

Apparently the cops should've allowed the man to stab them so these animals could've been happy. Or maybe they would've just found another excuse to riot. Who knows.

The investigation will show how many shots were fired and if the used force was justified by the situation or not. Until then you're only assuming that the police did nothing wrong - although a man was killed.
About the "animals", do yourself a favor and shut up.

And some of you still wonder why I'm intolerant towards foreign cultures?

At least you've got the guts to admit it. Admission is the first step towards recovery.

Maybe they should let the good people have guns so they can defend themselves against this stuff. From what I understand, shotguns are legal in the UK, I don't know about other parts of Europe. I have a cousin who is living in Sweden, hope she is safe.

So setting a car on fire is now punishable by death without prosecution or any involvement of the justice system or the police? Sounds like a great system. What could possibly go wrong?

I more or less agree.. Sadly, current policies of EU forces them upon us with their regulations, completely disregarding the clash of cultures. That is why we get news like this more regularly.

It's funny how people always complain that there is a clash between cultures. I've never seen that clash. And yet I'm living in what's often portrayed as an "immigrant infested, violent neighborhood". The only "clash" I've witnessed was when my residential area had a spring cleaning day of the outdoor areas and for snack the board had forgotten to make sandwiches without pork for my next door neighbor from Iraq and her little son (who by the way is an excellent gardener). And that wasn't even a clash, that was "oh, didn't think of that, sorry".

Regarding violence, at least in my city the most violence happens in the city center around midnight when people are drunk. It would be more reasonable to argue for a ban of alcohol than to argue for a ban of immigration.
 
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The investigation will show how many shots were fired and if the used force was justified by the situation or not. Until then you're only assuming that the police did nothing wrong - although a man was killed.

I don't know how things are in Sweden, but in my homeland it's made pretty clear that if you're too :censored:ing stupid to not do what the police say, and even worse, attempt to attack them, then you're just digging your own grave. Them cops can't be held responsible for the man's death - it was his own dumbness that got him. Better to use lethal force on the perpetrator than face death or serious injury yourself, isn't that right?
 
I don't know how things are in Sweden, but in my homeland it's made pretty clear that if you're too :censored:ing stupid to not do what the police say, and even worse, attempt to attack them, then you're just digging your own grave. Them cops can't be held responsible for the man's death - it was his own dumbness that got him. Better to use lethal force on the perpetrator than face death or serious injury yourself, isn't that right?

In Sweden, the use of police force must be in proportion to the situation. There's an investigation going on, as always when things like this happens, which will deal with that question. The police are responsible for everything they do and they have a responsibility to resolve a situation with as little violence as possible. The police has a monopoly on the right to use violence, and in order to maintain the respect and trust for the police, these things must always be reviewed in a critical manner. And I know that it's the same in Finland and in most other countries too. Justice should be done by respect of the law, not by fear of the law. The best way to get the respect of the people is to show the people respect.

Edit: The police officer who shot the man is now suspected of manslaughter. That doesn't mean he's guilty, but there seems to be reason to look deeper into what happened that evening.

What's important to understand is also that this event is not what caused the riots, it's simply a catalyst. The roots to the problem have been growing for several years and now it reached a point where it erupted. It's important to recognize that the riots in themselves are not the conflict - if you strike down the riots the problem is not solved, it will just erupt again some other time in some other place. What's important is to look at the roots to the problem and apply the fix there. The key question is: How do we make sure that young men becomes a part of the society? And that goes not only for youth with roots in other countries, but to native swedes as well, because a young, unemployed native swede will get radicalized in the same manner as an immigrant if he doesn't feel like he's a part of the society (just look at how our parliament now have a neo-fascist party, for instance - a direct result of the unemployment and alienation of primarily young and low-educated men. Anders Bering Breivik in Norway is another extreme example of how natives can become radicalized too).

Give the guys some connections, make them a part of the society that we share together, make them feel like they have a purpose and that they play an important part and you will solve many problems. If not, they will find themselves a purpose where they can play an important part (because everyone has a need to feel important, no one wants to be useless) and more often than not those purposes can be found in criminal gangs, extreme movements etc.

Releasing the dogs on them may work as a temporary "damage control" method but in the long run it will just throw more fire on the flames.
 
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