The trans flip. But not what you think.

[rosckolove]

There's a few things I want to go over in this thread. First of all, I wont be educating you if thats what you gathered from the title. You will be educating me.

I'm a circuit racer. I don't really have an interest in drag racing in gt6. However I do have an interest in learning everything I can about going faster.

So this brings me to my first question...

If I can aquire all of my desired gear ratios and achieve all of my desired shift points, do I actually gain anything from the trans flip? Will it make my car launch better? Or pull harder throughout the gears?

 

[levitt1991]

There's a few things I want to go over in this thread. First of all, I wont be educating you if thats what you gathered from the title. You will be educating me.

I'm a circuit racer. I don't really have an interest in drag racing in gt6. However I do have an interest in learning everything I can about going faster.

So this brings me to my first question...

If I can aquire all of my desired gear ratios and achieve all of my desired shift points, do I actually gain anything from the trans flip? Will it make my car launch better? Or pull harder throughout the gears?

The lower the gear box you use the less gear lag you will get. Using a 149 box will make your shifts smoother than using a 168 box. The longer the distance the higher you want to go up the box as it stretches your gears further and makes them longer. (I'm referring to drag because I've never tuned gears for circuit). Flipping a transmission means you can have your final gear all the way left which (I could be wrong) but I think it makes it smoother than having your final gear half way down. I've always flipped my transmission when tuning.

 

[rosckolove]

Lower the gearbox as in the final drive number?

Or are you referring to the location of the gears (blue lines) being as far left and as close together as possible while still utilizing the powerband?

 

[ryzno]

He means the final. The top speed should be set to the lowest setting (the very low HP cars this doesn't apply).
You then find a final that will give you enough Gear to be at red in a draft on the longest straight.
Move the top speed selector one click to the right then back to the original top speed. You'll notice that the individual gear ratios have changed.
Now set the final to the lowest setting.
Adjust individual gears for wheel spin and to keep them in the power curve.
The idea of the flip is to make for clean shifts, tighter gears and full use of the power curve.
Edit. It takes some trial and error to find a good final to use for the first part of the flip. I've heard 3km Drag transmissions are a good place to start.

 

[Mikeybc]

A flipped transmission will usually result in less shift lag, shift lag can be seen when racing side by side with someone with a non flipped tranny.

To answer your question, with all else being equal that half car length or so pull you gain accelerating out of a corner and down a straight can add up significantly over the course of a lap or two.

 

[rosckolove]

But if I am able to set first gear as long as possible while still getting a good launch. And 6th gear as short as possible while remaining in the desired rpm range down the longest straight without doing the trans flip (which is possible) THEN what do I gain from flipping the trans?

It's the spacing of the gears that determines shift lag right? Let's say my desired ratios are achievable both ways (with, and without the flip) would the flipped trans be faster? If so.... Why?

 

[Mikeybc]

If you can get the desired ratios with and without flipping then I don't see the point, the point if a flip is to get a tighter gearset that normally cannot be achieved without going through the flip process.

In the past using 2 very similar transmissions (but flipped vs non flipped) would require using the speed test to determine the difference with the flipped version usually yielding the better result. In gt6 though I don't know and haven't compared.