The Wing, Spoiler, and haters Poll

[MonGnoM]

This Poll is about Spoilers or Wings on cars.
I saw that there are some haters, for wings, "that would destroy the car..."
I once race in an online Time Attack racing lobby, which is all about fast laptimes, so you need downforce. I raced with a Subaru (with a wing on it...) then someone said:"Take that ugly wing off your car, it's ugly"

I like wings on cars, it gives them a certain "race look".

My question for you GT5ers is:
Spoilers or wings on cars: Are you a fan or a hater?

 

[JBF1MSC]

Fan if it's for purpose and not looks. For looks the rest of the car should be suitably modified elsewhere.

It looks rubbish when someone takes a box standard car and sticks a huge wing on the back.

 

[analog]

Depends on which car and which wing/spoiler regarding looks (not talking about purpose now).
In general I like roadcars without wings but there are exceptions, some look good with a wings as well, some look even better with a wing or form such an important aspect of the visuals that it would look odd without.
So I'm neither a fan nor a hater, it's more complicated than that (as most things are).

 

[Morgoth_666]

While as a rule the non-unique wings in GT5 look rather icky in and of themselves, I find that I'm a lot less disturbed by seeing a huge wing on a car that I'm used to seeing in real-world race car form. So I guess it's a case-by-case basis for me aesthetically - some cars I'm not used to seeing wings on look ok too, some don't.

Of course if you get into the performance value side of things there are a number of people who do believe that with a properly tuned suspension and LSD, you will get higher performance from the extra power that not having a wing affords you. Sadly, my setup skills mean I usually need a wing, although it varies by the car's handling characteristics.

What bugs me more is just the fact that all the other custom body parts have no impact on aerodynamics. It almost makes me not want to use them unless adding the wing makes the car look odd without them. Maybe they did that because they couldn't add such parts to standards? Still, it annoys me because I'm of the opinion that I don't mind if parts look a little funky as long as they have performance value.

 

[RReed43]

Wings are really useful particularly at high speeds. They make the car more stable and provide extra down force to increase cornering speed.

Whether I use them is based on restrictions and the trade off in PP. For example in the very difficult 550pp Lambo Seasonal Challenge on the Ring I found my times were lower without the Wiing because the extra HP produced needed acceleration and top speed.

On other courses and other cars I will use maximum wing for the improved cornering speed.

 

[mrkevans]

It's quite subjective and depends on the car

 

[Davis]

No.

Yes.

Can you tell which one I voted for?

 

[Exorcet]

Wings generate downforce, therefore they look good on anything.

 

[MonGnoM]

No.

Yes.

Can you tell which one I voted for?

for the blue one.
that looks incredible sexy...

 

[Davis]

Yup, all that downforce going to the rear wheels... On an FF is just pure automotive art!

 

[fbccars924]

I won't lie, I have a few box standard cars that I put wings on just to look goofy lol.

 

[MonGnoM]

I won't lie, I have a few box standard cars that I put wings on just to look goofy lol.

*cough* fiat panda *cough*

 

[Lock2Lock]

No.

Yes.

Can you tell which one I voted for?

Yeah i would tell that guy.... YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!

 

[zedextreme8177]

I seriously wish I could put a wing on the Samba Bus

I like wings on certain cars. For example, I'd hate a road-going Italia with a wing, but I don't mind the racing versions

But as far as wings go, this one takes the cake:

 

[Erunanethiel]

No.

Yes.

Can you tell which one I voted for?

Oh my God! The spoiler really goes with that blue one. And BMW M3 GTS is not bad either :/

 

[NjLowrider]

I don't mind a wing, especially if it looks goofy.

That being said, I won't put a wing on a luxury 4 door car. C63 with a huge wing looks awful. Also I think anything under 500pp it's gonna slow you down more than its worth in corners.

My biggest problem with wings in game is you can't remove or nullify them in the settings menu.

I need two identical cars, one winged and one unwinged, so I can bring one into lower pp rooms and the other into higher pp rooms.

I wish the downforce slider went from 0-20.

 

[Samus]

Wings generate downforce, therefore they look good on anything.

Disagree, wings make some cars look awful, mainly older classic cars. An E-Type with a wing would be horrific, for example, no matter how much it helps with downforce.

 

[Lock2Lock]

I seriously wish I could put a wing on the Samba Bus

I like wings on certain cars. For example, I'd hate a road-going Italia with a wing, but I don't mind the racing versions

But as far as wings go, this one takes the cake:

It needs that. It is a Pikes Peak hill clime car. There is a reason they have such big wings on those cars. But who doesn't love the Susuki Escudo. Hahha one bad you know what car.

But if the Escudo wing was on a Ford Escort then it would be completely stupid.

Also I forgot to mention. About six months ago I had seen a Nissan Sentra (around 2003 model) with a Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 wing (yeah the one that is bigger than the stock Eclipse wing sort of bigger than the EVO 9 MR's wing. It was put on in a crappie way and wasn't even center with the car and had a chipping clear coat.

I wanted to rip it off.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Depends on what kind of car its on and how big it is.

 

[Exorcet]

Yup, all that downforce going to the rear wheels... On an FF is just pure automotive art!

That downforce will assist with lift off oversteer as well as limit weight transfer during braking. It also allows for a larger front splitter which would increase accelerative traction, braking, and lateral g.

I wish the downforce slider went from 0-20.

We should be able to choose I think. 0-10 wing for ultra high speed cars that won't do much cornering, 5-20 wing for mild downforce, 15-35 wing for track cars, 30-50 wing for time attack and high powered race cars, 100+ wings for ultra high horsepower and/or low speed/autocross.

Of course, replace the slider with real units of downforce too.

 

[Dolph Drago]

It depends on the car for me. Some look good with a wing, others don't. I just wish there was a larger selection of wings. All the wings look massive to me. If they offered some smaller wings, then I think more cars would look nicer with one.

Now for performance, I'm going to slap the thing on there no matter how it looks.

 

[Ryk]

Wow - I'm part of the tail happy minority here!

Bolt on tea tray wings - Pah
Designed for racing... - Okay... but it does impede close racing. (But they do improve lap times... depends which you prefer, faster cornering and spread out fields, or slower ultimate pace but closer racing.

You can't un-invent Aerodynamics - But Dan "The Man" Bernoulli has alot to answer for!

 

[Dan]

I don't mind spoilers. But putting them on an ugly Civic is bad.

However, the spoiler on the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak is FREAKING BADASS!!!!

 

[The Stig Farmer]

I don't mind spoilers. But putting them on an ugly Civic is bad.

However, the spoiler on the Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak is FREAKING BADASS!!!!

👍

 

[VTiRoj]

I find this sort of spoiler to be acceptable on a FWD car. It may not be functional for racing, but it looks good.

And the wings featured on real FWD racing cars aren't usually such an eyesore either.

But this is wrong. This is just pretending to be a racing wing and looks butt-ugly.

So I guess you can put me in the "I like wings that don't look stupid" category.

 

[iainoflo85]

What's a ricer? I would vote if I knew what this meant because I think this is the deciding factor.

I think certain cars look good, certain cars DO NOT! But street cars trying to be race cars? No, they still look like a street car, but worse.

 

[Davis]

What's a ricer? I would vote if I knew what this meant because I think this is the deciding factor.

I think certain cars look good, certain cars DO NOT! But street cars trying to be race cars? No, they still look like a street car, but worse.

Taken from Urban Dictionary:

A person who makes unecessary modifications to their most often import car (hence the term "rice") to make it (mostly make it look) faster. The most common modifications are (but not limited to):

- Huge exhaust that serves no purpose but to make the car louder
- Large spoiler on the back that looks like something Boeing made for the 747
- Lots of after-market company stickers they don't have parts from, but must be cool
- Expensive rims that usually cost more than the car itself
- Bodykit to make the car appear lower, usually accented with chicken wire
- Clear tail lights and corner signals
- A "performace intake"
- Most of these riced cars (a.k.a. rice rockets or rice burners) are imports; Honda Civics, Accords, Integras, CRXs, RSXs, Del Sols Mitsubishi Eclipses, Lancers, Subaru Imprezas, however there are some domestics such as Chevrolet Caviliers, Dodge Neons, Ford Focus; small, slow, economy cars designed specifically to go slow. Please note that some Supras, Skylines, WRX's and other higher performance imports are designed to go fast, and are therfore not always considered rice. It really depends on the severity of the case.

The "ricer" attempts to make their car "performance" by adding the modifications listed above. These ricers are not confined...

That's basically the most comprehensive definition.

 

[Welsh-Fury]

When it comes to car spoilers, I can't deny I like them, but never to a degree of looking like it doesn't belong.

When I do find myself with a car, 99% of the time I run the car around a few tracks to judge wither or not the car needs the spoiler (And most usually don't). I realized that adding a spoiler to many of these street cars ends up taking away their turning performance at higher speeds. You all may know of this through the "Wheelie" some cars do at insane speeds and/or with the Veyron/Enzo. The same effect is applied.

I don't always have the rear spoilers on my cars for the sake of higher top speeds or looks, but for being able to make the most of my machines. Many cars already struggle in planting the front tires on the ground and they don't need more of that taken away from them. The Veyron would an amazing track "Dream Machine" if it wasn't for the pop-up spoiler adding an insane amount of down force to the rear of the car.

 

[Davis]

Nevermind, delete this.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Fan if it's for purpose and not looks.

This.

I never do wings for appearances, and I'm not quick to mount one on there, but if I think it'll make a meaningful improvement to my performance I'm happy to run wings. I don't go around taping wings onto just anything.