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Time Trial Discussion
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- double_rating7
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- schlafhund
If I recall correctly, about .580. Far away already there, despite the long outside run, riding on the snow wall. And pretty decent grip on the inside of T1 prior. Clearly not fast enough though. But getting through there consistently is a struggle.
Lol.Just hope you aren't turning human.
Seriously, many of us can sympathize.
Sometimes there is just a combination that is more elusive than others.
I just put the results in the closet with the rest of the things I would rather forget about and go on.
Honestly, lately it's beginning to feel like everyone else is catching up and/or overtaking and I'm falling behind more and more. It's tough and not what I'd drive if I could choose but I should at least be able to be closer to some other people I usually more or less match.Hi,
I have been using the “try before you buy” method here for almost two weeks now. I am still a country mile off bronze.
I think I would have more fun stripping naked, tying a Rottweiler and some pork chops to my backside and then throwing myself down the cellar steps to be honest!!!
Best regards to all here.
Ian.
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- Highlanderlast
I feel your pain. I have 1:00.7 in OPT but can not stich it together... when S1 is .2 then last turn is in snow barrier....
@NAXEHT I never thought I woulds say that since you are literally in 100% of TTs faster than me... but ... do you want to share your lap if you want some guidelines ?
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- Danger_Dan986
Hi folks! To avoid falling into @NAXEHT ’s trap of feeling very inadequate in the Toyota I am continuing to avoid it now I’m back.
Out at Willow Springs in the 4C; nice trial. Seems like a boring combo but nice to be in a different Gr4 car and the 4C is fun round here, pointy and adjustable! Some slightly weird kerb physics aside it’s a lot of fun but I think it will get old relatively quickly.. maybe two tenths to find here
Out at Willow Springs in the 4C; nice trial. Seems like a boring combo but nice to be in a different Gr4 car and the 4C is fun round here, pointy and adjustable! Some slightly weird kerb physics aside it’s a lot of fun but I think it will get old relatively quickly.. maybe two tenths to find here
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Indeed lots to gain on S1, and like @Barareklam mentioned.... you are always faster than the both of us so maby there is something off?.... rental? Changed rimsize?If I recall correctly, about .580. Far away already there, despite the long outside run, riding on the snow wall. And pretty decent grip on the inside of T1 prior. Clearly not fast enough though. But getting through there consistently is a struggle.
Lol.
Are you running the outside line on exit T1?
@Dan_Tes .....you prick.... 🤣🤣❤️
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I should've shared it last night, unfortunately I don't really have time today but thanks. Perhaps I might be able to make a quick jump over home before going out.
Three more hours of work, then after work and later tonight a dinner out. A few beers. Some preparation!
Something feels off but no. People speak of rentals yet the top 10 is filled with liveries so there's no case to be had there. I had 20" at first but switched back to 18", didn't notice any obvious difference there. The width offset I never mess with on TT cars. Yeah, I'm up on the snow wall.
No, no assists. 01.648 is the current time.
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- Turismo_Valoroso
In this economy, you’re doing just fine hahahaI should've shared it last night, unfortunately I don't really have time today but thanks. Perhaps I might be able to make a quick jump over home before going out.
Three more hours of work, then after work and later tonight a dinner out. A few beers. Some preparation!
Something feels off but no. People speak of rentals yet the top 10 is filled with liveries so there's no case to be had there. I had 20" at first but switched back to 18", didn't notice any obvious difference there. The width offset I never mess with on TT cars. Yeah, I'm up on the snow wall.
No, no assists. 01.648 is the current time.
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You can check here how I am handling T1 for fast S1 time (.3 sometimes .2), you really need to hug that apex, come close to it as close as it is possible and you are hugging it until the very apex and then you straighten up steering. You can start pumping throttle way before apex, (EDIT* you SHOULD pump throttle so you carry speed) study my T1 and you got it champion I am sure!I should've shared it last night, unfortunately I don't really have time today but thanks. Perhaps I might be able to make a quick jump over home before going out.
Three more hours of work, then after work and later tonight a dinner out. A few beers. Some preparation!
Something feels off but no. People speak of rentals yet the top 10 is filled with liveries so there's no case to be had there. I had 20" at first but switched back to 18", didn't notice any obvious difference there. The width offset I never mess with on TT cars. Yeah, I'm up on the snow wall.
No, no assists. 01.648 is the current time.
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- GTP_CarlosF
While my time at Lake Louise is safe, I had a quick run at Willow Springs, switching from the NSX back into the 4C. The NSX front axle is a little more planted, but the car doesn't quite have the torque of the 4C. I can go faster in both cars, but best so far is a tenth up.
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True indeed and should not make any difference ofcourse but we all know rimsize has been tricky in the past , but I admit that it's a weird one, I did a .177 in the first few days, them had about 4 sessions were I absolutely s*cked and only ran .5' and 6's ...left the TT for a few days to hunt your hometown and went back this morning beeing consistent in the .1's out of the blue, no idea why but it seems to be all in T1 for me.
Im positive you'll find your snowjo 😁🤣
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Damn i really like Willow Springs, very fast and flowing track one of my favorite since it was introduced in GT6
And a simply lovely lap 🏁
And a simply lovely lap 🏁
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- cosmic-minster
The main factor between those and this one is that it is a shorter lap and due to this, there is less room to find time. The last turn determines your lap time is what I got from this combo, it doesn't matter how good your sector 1 time is, if you do the last turn too slow then no improvement at all. You need to stay in 4th gear and throw the car in around the outside and pray it doesn't tap the wall. It's risky but it's the required line to take to get a good time. You can use the blue rectangle markers as a braking point for the last turn, I can show you a rough example of what I mean (don't mind my bad drawing)
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Purty much. All is gained and lost in that final, hail-mary corner. I've done an S1 in the 28.2s, only to amount to nothing cause of the second half.
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I’m not good at these lose grip ones, so is it my 3rd right molar that needs the filling or is it the incisor on the left?
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Mm.... hard to spot the difference for me in this view but T1 seems rather fine.... do you notice getting some sort of grip on the banking after you pass the bollards?, I try to straighten the steering input sometimes even before i pass them and let the banking do the job, for my feeling that is were the exitspeed lies.,and you clearly notice that grip boost if you get it right, then I'm a little bit earlier to 5th to line up for the next part , if I stay in 4th to long I only seem to have wheelspin downhill and sooner to 5th gets that tiny grippoint before you yeet it in 4th.
Last turn seems grippy too
Could well be a low 1.01 lap if you look at it 🤔, @Barareklam you gotta work your plit magic on this one mate 😁
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I think I see where you can improve. I think you can start turning in in turns slightly earlier than you do right now. That way you will not need to give so much input into turns and car will not rotate so much but be more pointing to next turn and with that keep more speed through corners. To shorten it down, you are rotating car more than needed in general through whole circuit. Less rotation will carry more speed.
Can you check my post on Facebook so I don't need to repost everything again? Gran Turismo 7 group, there are few but you see icon which one in the image here below. There you can see two videos in slow down speed for easier watching, plus two normal speed replays.
Hope this helps, good luck, you got it!
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I may have missed it early on, but if you're not using a new or rental Corolla do yourself a favor and give it a shot. I don't know if it's wheel size or whatever else, but it's easy to give it a shot if you haven't already.
As I said in my earlier post I was watching everyone I normally compare to leave me in the dust. Even though my garage car has only ever had suspension and wheels done to it I hopped in a brand new car and was immediately about a second faster. I hit my current 1:01.7 after a few laps, whereas before I did like 70 laps in the 1:02-3s range. The top time cars do have liveries on them, but have probably never had any other modifications.
I have optimals in the low 1:01s now, but haven't had time to get back in there. What I will say is entering turn one with barely any oversteer has me gaining time as opposed to the huge scandi-flicks I was doing before. I can reel in the WR ghost there and through the esses, it's just that turn-one exit against the wall and the maximizing exit speed in the final corner that's killing me now.
Go thrash a rental! Good luck!
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I did 2 more sessions at Lake Louise to not much avail 
I did improve .7 seconds (final time: 1:04.158) but no chance for a silver. Still happy with the improvement and especially that on my friend leaderboard I'm the fastest - typically I'm the slowest, so I take this as a win
As far as Willow Springs goes: I like the track and as a self-proclaimed Porsche fan there's no other choice than the Cayman, plus for slow bastards like me, the GT4s, I mean the Gr. 4 cars are kind of the sweet spot. My first session ended with 1:20.741, at that time just .2% outside of the silver range. I felt that the silver is definitely possible, so did another round, ended up at 1:20.274. I'm not sure if it will hold but before giving up I did see that there's at least 2 or 3 tenths I can gain, provided I don't eff it up somewhere - which is around 90% of the laps I do So, my lovely aliens, please stop pushing out the best time further
I did improve .7 seconds (final time: 1:04.158) but no chance for a silver. Still happy with the improvement and especially that on my friend leaderboard I'm the fastest - typically I'm the slowest, so I take this as a win As far as Willow Springs goes: I like the track and as a self-proclaimed Porsche fan there's no other choice than the Cayman, plus for slow bastards like me, the GT4s, I mean the Gr. 4 cars are kind of the sweet spot. My first session ended with 1:20.741, at that time just .2% outside of the silver range. I felt that the silver is definitely possible, so did another round, ended up at 1:20.274. I'm not sure if it will hold but before giving up I did see that there's at least 2 or 3 tenths I can gain, provided I don't eff it up somewhere - which is around 90% of the laps I do
So, my lovely aliens, please stop pushing out the best time further
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Conclusion: what a waste to have driven hundreds of kilometers in a garage car... in half a dozen laps in a rented car, I easily noticed an improvement in time and safety on curves. The difference is noticeable in the listing of invalidated laps and clean laps.
with a T1 of 28,600 and the exit at the last curve at 122km/h you can't reach minute 00
with a T1 of 28,600 and the exit at the last curve at 122km/h you can't reach minute 00
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Two sectors in a row counts for gold, right?
@ Polyphony Digital, let's call it 1.5m and split the difference yeah? A gentleman's gold, if you will?
@ Polyphony Digital, let's call it 1.5m and split the difference yeah? A gentleman's gold, if you will?
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- JoeDaSnow
Last Thursday, I had posted a time of 0:40.638 at the Daytona Tri-Oval, earning me my tenth gold in the LTC. Tomorrow, I will receive bronze for posting a time of 1:05.488 at Lake Louise Short Track Reverse. Today, I had posted a time of 1:19:770 at Big Willow, which means it will warrant me a silver record finish.
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- linksracer
Getting PTSD to the Yaris trial in the snow, which is one of my 2 silvers.
Currently 2.5% off first since I was only able to do one session last night and I just do not understand driving in the snow.
If i see a message today to say L-shooter has improved the time by more than 0.5%, I'm gonna lose it
Currently 2.5% off first since I was only able to do one session last night and I just do not understand driving in the snow.
If i see a message today to say L-shooter has improved the time by more than 0.5%, I'm gonna lose it
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Managed to get some last minute improvements at Lake Louise. Final time of a 1:00.884 which I'm very happy with, could still see a .7 or .6 possible but this is still a satisfying result.
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Cheers for all the help, folks. As I sensed yesterday, something was clearly amiss and in the end I fortunately managed to figure out what, the issue were my wheels. Something I had ruled out earlier since all I had done was switch to a different set, no change in size, width or offset (the culprit earlier, with e.g. the RCR Civic).
When I was driving tonight and seeing no improvements I figure there is certainly something that is messed up, yet I (and some other friends) checked all possible explanations (or so we thought) and still no success. What the hell can I do?! Suddenly the idea comes to me, how about going back to the standard wheels? Said and done, back to driving, same lines, same style yet now somehow it just grips more and I manage to follow the ghost in a way previously impossible. In just a couple of minutes I'm clearly sub 01 and the final puzzle piece falls into place. sighs of relief
That also explains how people were led to believe the rental was faster (which it was, if your Corolla had aftermarket wheels) and at the same time people were setting top times in their own Corollas with liveries (as long as OEM wheels stayed on).
This was the reason, as already explained by @imChris (mad time btw, respect!)
@linksracer Make sure that you have OEM wheels in case you feel strangely far behind here. Shooter can definitely snipe this one but I'd wager by no more than half of or max a tenth.
When I was driving tonight and seeing no improvements I figure there is certainly something that is messed up, yet I (and some other friends) checked all possible explanations (or so we thought) and still no success. What the hell can I do?! Suddenly the idea comes to me, how about going back to the standard wheels? Said and done, back to driving, same lines, same style yet now somehow it just grips more and I manage to follow the ghost in a way previously impossible. In just a couple of minutes I'm clearly sub 01 and the final puzzle piece falls into place. sighs of relief
That also explains how people were led to believe the rental was faster (which it was, if your Corolla had aftermarket wheels) and at the same time people were setting top times in their own Corollas with liveries (as long as OEM wheels stayed on).
This was the reason, as already explained by @imChris (mad time btw, respect!)
@linksracer Make sure that you have OEM wheels in case you feel strangely far behind here. Shooter can definitely snipe this one but I'd wager by no more than half of or max a tenth.
