- 1,193
- United States
- nope_not_here
Last edited:
Time Trial Discussion
- Thread starter seadog777
- 33,844 comments
- 2,247,771 views
I took inspiration from your diligent note taking and tried it as well. Golded the CE somewhat quickly, then did a 10 lap all Civic TC race. The AI takes some insanely terrible lines and I once again invalidated a clean race about ten times, as seems to be my standard per race. Somehow I can't get the time trialist out of me even with other cars on the track.Hello everyone and welcome back on Gran Turismo Time Trail (with @Tidgney 's tone)
As said yesterday, I've tried the @GlockPants method and.... I'm still in silver BUT.
Then, I've opened the TT and started to lap as I've done previously in the custom race.
- created a custom race with similar settings as the LM TT
- won 2 stints of 10 laps with "expert" opponents (thx for the credits) with a PB at 1:29.44x in the 1st and 1:29.45x in the 2nd
- I was able to improve my consistency (mostly in a range of 1:29.7 to 1:30.0)
After 10 laps on the TT, no improvement so far but I feel much more confident, less stressed, less tense on the controller.
I was in the same range (1:29.7 to 1:30.0) with an optimal at 1:29.434.
So, it works for me!! And I strongly encourage everyone who struggle on the TTS to test this method too.
Thanks @GlockPants
I know and I feel it's only a matter of time to regain my seat in the Yellow Club.
I'll keep practising and pushing this way.
Afterwards I did some laps and called it quits while still in silver but the optimum safely in gold territory. Came back later tonight and watched Tidgney's lap guide, then followed his ghost (with sector resets) in game. I think I might stick to this approach, maybe scrapping the part where I stumble around the track without having watched a lap guide first. However I have a hunch that this might be some valuable learning experience that will bear fruit over time.
Congratulations! Great to see guys evolve here over time. With this time the WR would have to drop below 1:26,771 for you to be out of gold. I would hope that its safe. However with the weird drift that is possible at the down hill hairpin it might be possible that someone pulls off some insane speed through that thing and improves a lot. Not sure if that theory makes sense though.FIRST GOLD EVER 😨🙏
Let's see how long this holds up!
Welcome! I thought I was getting old gaming wise getting back into it at 37 years old. But all you old fellas here give me hope. Thank you! :-)I everybody!
Been lurking for a while on this forum, since i bought a new wheel and the "itch" came back
Was around a couple a years ago, on WRS foruns, so it´s nice to see some familiar names.
Glad to see so many "aliens" and the will to help others.
I´m from Portugal, already past 50, but my mind refuses to accept that
I am now officially on livery crack. Will probably never do a TT or online race without one ever again.
- 575
- United Kingdom
- Lord-Jonty
I really can't drive this Civic! Probably the hardest TT I've tried so far for me. 1.29.1 is all I can manage, hopefully it holds for gold, but man, this thing... it understeers like crazy, and I know you get the nose in with the brakes but I'm finding consistency very tricky with that, many crashes have occured. The banked corner is a nightmare but I don't much like the S sequence before either. Not for me this one!
- 4,480
- Indiana
- DolphDrago
I have no explanation for this lap. Sector 1 was awful, but I accidentally yeeted my way through the downhill left and gained everything back and then some. 
Despite moving up quite a few spots overall, I'm still well down my friends leaderboard thanks to all the 👽s here! I think I need to stop adding friends from this thread...
Despite moving up quite a few spots overall, I'm still well down my friends leaderboard thanks to all the 👽s here! I think I need to stop adding friends from this thread...
- 1,193
- United States
- nope_not_here
I have no explanation for this lap. Sector 1 was awful, but I accidentally yeeted my way through the downhill left and gained everything back and then some.
View attachment 1321769
View attachment 1321768
View attachment 1321770
THAT was one hell of a 2nd sector! And OUCH on first corner
It would've been a 1:27.6s for sure.
330_D
Premium
- 1,085
- Upstate NY
I have no explanation for this lap. Sector 1 was awful, but I accidentally yeeted my way through the downhill left and gained everything back and then some.
View attachment 1321769
View attachment 1321768
View attachment 1321770
I knew you'd throw a heavy lap out. This kinda car is your jam!
- 1,224
- South Africa
Easier on the brakes and problem solved. Especially through the sweeping left hander.
For the S curves, brake slightly earlier and get the car all the way to the right for the first part of the S.
- 3,169
- USA
- GTP_CarlosF
Couldn’t quite catch you @Gomario JSP but I did manage to close the gap in a short 30 minute session this evening. Sector three is still a bit of a mystery, but managed to set myself up well with a best ever sector 1 and not binning it in sector 2 😂 - such a fun car to throw around this track!
Lap shared for anyone interested.
Lap shared for anyone interested.
Last edited:
- 4,905
- United States
- rising_glass1
Wow man, how did you do that? I pulled a 1'31.110 only after 5 laps Sunday. Was thrilled about it.I was skeptical at first when I saw the new TT. Lago Maggiore East in reverse is not a track I particularly like. I had never driven it before, so I was all the more surprised that I got into it relatively quickly. That's definitely down to the Civic, which is really wonderful to drive.
The only disadvantage is that you really have to take a lot of shortcuts, which I generally don't like.
Anyway, at the end of my first stint, the fastest time was 1:27.235. That's currently P8 in the world
There are still about 2 tenths to go, let's see if I can get the lap together.
View attachment 1321355
- 2,371
- The Netherlands
- Espanjolicos
You are right, i can't control myself....., and the fact that one of my cats was nipple nibbling at 5 o'clock this morning did help decide to rideIf I may correct:
This is more realistic...
I know the feeling, i'm kind of inconsistent in sectors, but consistent in laptimes, i have waaaayyy more laps into the 8xx's now, but the miracle lap i keep stuffing up..., like for example i ran a 54.950 this morning after the left curve of downhill death, that was the fastst i have ever done and would absolutely end in a low .7xx but it's A a good S1 and a realy bad last sector or the other way around ......,
You mean T1 in 4th and 3 on apex??, that's the fun part in this, there are so many different driving styles that end up in the 8's....,
i'm yeeting it ( not sausing it ) to second and trailbrake al the way to the apex, sometimes even a little longer and exit in 3th..., but i must say that the WR ghost is unstoppable out of T1, so there should be time on the table for me .....maby.....
you prick......
, nice mate, and well deserved on your new setup., i don't like it, but i'll respect it i was close today, but yet so far away.... i tried but it just didn't work today....
I have no explanation for this lap. Sector 1 was awful, but I accidentally yeeted my way through the downhill left and gained everything back and then some.
That was a nice S2 mate!, welcome to the "seperate bazooka sector times club"
you will prob find your miracle lap again on this one, good to see you improve again, i need you in my fight against a certain Muffin, we gotta keep the controller players alive mate!
,Yeah, i have a problem with my leaderboard too, all the people i accept seem to be aliens these days
, maby we are getting old Dolph That is a nice improvement!, and not a bad time on the board!, you became quite fast lately! , stay with us please..... don't fall for the abduction tricks....,
Last edited:
- 43
- Germany
- Ruben_Win94
My routine is actually always the same. I watch the replay of the WR to analyze which technique might be necessary to be fast.
Then I load the ghost of the fastest lap and try to keep up sector by sector. If I succeed, I switch off the ghost and start my run. It usually takes 2-3 hours and then I usually have a time that satisfies me.
- 2,329
- Brittany
- Troglodette
Incredible, we have the exact same routine (except one detail) !!!
It usually takes 2-3 weeks and then I usually have a time that satisfies me...
- 1,217
- ontario, canada
- Slatanic1
Finally got to hit the rx8 tt for a few laps yesterday and was able to hit near gold with little effort which kinda surprised me as i don't really enjoy nor do i feel I'm very good at the track. It is a great combo though and i am really enjoying running it.
Home from work today so back for more laps with my morning coffee and we are down to a 23.475 and i really think i can break 22 with a "perfect" lap.
Not sure i am looking forward to the civic tbh. I do not get along well with fwd.....
Home from work today so back for more laps with my morning coffee and we are down to a 23.475 and i really think i can break 22 with a "perfect" lap.
Not sure i am looking forward to the civic tbh. I do not get along well with fwd.....
330_D
Premium
- 1,085
- Upstate NY
Yes. I used to yeet it into second to slow and rotate but it's faster for me to stay in 4th lightly lightly lightly on the throttle to control balance on the brakes (I find trail braking on acceleration to be faster where you typically spin on exit, as sort of old school rudimentary traction control) and I can nearly stay in @Metalgear9493 ghost out the exit doing that. Ymmv because I don't think there is actually one optimal line in ANY corner here. 😂😂😂You are right, i can't control myself....., and the fact that one of my cats was nipple nibbling at 5 o'clock this morning did help decide to ride
I know the feeling, i'm kind of inconsistent in sectors, but consistent in laptimes, i have waaaayyy more laps into the 8xx's now, but the miracle lap i keep stuffing up..., like for example i ran a 54.950 this morning after the left curve of downhill death, that was the fastst i have ever done and would absolutely end in a low .7xx but it's A a good S1 and a realy bad last sector or the other way around ......,
You mean T1 in 4th and 3 on apex??, that's the fun part in this, there are so many different driving styles that end up in the 8's....,
i'm yeeting it ( not sausing it ) to second and trailbrake al the way to the apex, sometimes even a little longer and exit in 3th..., but i must say that the WR ghost is unstoppable out of T1, so there should be time on the table for me .....maby.....
you prick......
i was close today, but yet so far away.... i tried but it just didn't work today....
View attachment 1321806
That was a nice S2 mate!, welcome to the "seperate bazooka sector times club"
you will prob find your miracle lap again on this one, good to see you improve again, i need you in my fight against a certain Muffin, we gotta keep the controller players alive mate!
Yeah, i have a problem with my leaderboard too, all the people i accept seem to be aliens these days
That is a nice improvement!, and not a bad time on the board!, you became quite fast lately! , stay with us please..... don't fall for the abduction tricks....,
- 4,905
- United States
- rising_glass1
Wow, awesome setup, when did you receive it? I am sticking with my controllers. Nice cat btw!
- 1,193
- United States
- nope_not_here
- 2,371
- The Netherlands
- Espanjolicos
, it's a weird one indeed with the Civic, but i will surely give 4th a try then!, thanks for the inside,. these things make this forum so damn good and competitive!@Chris30 read the above as "i did not have the right gear since last year and was still high on the leaderboard, now i do have the right gear............goodbye... i am officially abducted.... see ya! "
But Chris, sticking with the controller is fine!, i am a controller user and sometimes i can give him kind of a hard time, or more.... keep him sharp
, so just keep practising on the controller and you will become faster every step of the way 👍
GlockPants
Premium
- 1,102
- United States
- GlockPants
@Evilmuffin has the same gear I do now, if I'm proof that gear doesn't make you alien all of a sudden. Takes me almost the entire two weeks to find my best lap and still not be as quick as them or @Gomario JSP on the pad.
Maybe one day I will ascend
Maybe one day I will ascend
Last edited:
- 4,905
- United States
- rising_glass1
Yeah, the controller has it's own mind. I trust it so I'll never stop using it. I think the wheel would be more complex, see if you get your foot hung in the pedals, that would be bad. If you know what I mean.
@Chris30 read the above as "i did not have the right gear since last year and was still high on the leaderboard, now i do have the right gear............goodbye... i am officially abducted.... see ya! "
But Chris, sticking with the controller is fine!, i am a controller user and sometimes i can give him kind of a hard time, or more.... keep him sharp
- 1,193
- United States
- nope_not_here
In before one of you put in a miracle lap....
Still somewhat messy....may chase for .5s....wil see how I feel.
- 2,371
- The Netherlands
- Espanjolicos
- 3,169
- USA
- GTP_CarlosF
You made that look effortless, whereas I feel like I’m controlling the car while preventing a swarm of bees inside from stinging me - nicely done 👽
Last edited:
- 2,371
- The Netherlands
- Espanjolicos
Yeah i have no idea how he makes it looks so easy, if you look at this lap, i swear he can still find like 2 tenths.....You made that look effortless, whereas I feel like I’m controlling the car while preventing a swarm of bees inside the car from stinging me - nicely done 👽
The only thing i'm interesting in is the staying in 5th... i'm going to 4th at the end on the S' es and the staying in 4th in the corner after the deadly downhill left hander..... looks so much more smooth, i'm fighting it all the way......
we shall see!
Last edited:
- 3,794
- Ustaritz
- Jejechris
New test today in Lake Maggiore and improve my time by a few seconds at 1'28'623 with optimal time at 1'28'357 😡😡😡.
My problem is that I can't be consistent in my braking but I think I'll get there and why not get closer to 1'28'000.
As for Nurburgring GP, I am very happy with my ranking of 869th place. Even though I am 200 places away from my record, my goal of being in the top 1000 has been achieved. and this is my goal this year, to be more consistent in my rankings (even if this will be my 9th consecutive gold medal out of a total of 29 medal gold obtained).
My problem is that I can't be consistent in my braking but I think I'll get there and why not get closer to 1'28'000.
As for Nurburgring GP, I am very happy with my ranking of 869th place. Even though I am 200 places away from my record, my goal of being in the top 1000 has been achieved. and this is my goal this year, to be more consistent in my rankings (even if this will be my 9th consecutive gold medal out of a total of 29 medal gold obtained).
Last edited:
- 3,169
- USA
- GTP_CarlosF
Yeah I tried the 5th gear out of the esses and 4th gear out of the last corner early on (as per @Tidgney), but it seemed quicker in the lower gear in both cases for me. That said, my apex speeds are faster and more consistent now, so I may revisit. I can definitely see the benefit of 5th in the esses to remove the power-on understeer, and 4th out of the last corner would stop me hitting the rev limiter in 3rd (as I’ve done an infuriating number of times 😂)
