Time Trial Discussion

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After about 500km and several late nights, I have finally cracked the top 300 for the Civic around Maggiore.

Managed a 1:27.862 which places me 271st currently. The optimum was a 27.6XX but I was never going to achieve that with the way I was driving. It took me about 15 laps to get below a 28.000 and the. Another 25 laps to get into the 28.8XXs. so many laps lost to track limits or nudging the wall and getting invalidated. However my least favourite was misshifting after T1 leading to a loss of 0.15 down the rest of the sector.

Trying to nail sector 2 was borderline impossible for me as the corners in reverse just feel strange to try and take quickly, not to mention the extreme use of track limits.

This lap may actually be the closest I've been to the number 1 time being within a second, however I was surprised to be so far down the leaderboards at 271st. Clearly many aliens have already mastered hitting vtec.

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Don't think I'll be doing any more of this trial as I've done far too much of it as is, although the civic was an enjoyable car to drive.

The genesis around Monza does not fill me with interest either, so I'll likely grab gold and move on with that one.
 
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I knew the Genesis X VGT is God awful to drive simply by looking at it, and it did not disappoint. Yet 200 miles later, can this potentially be my best Time trial ever (result wise)?

1:37.969 is what I managed. Can’t see myself going back to improve it at all 😂

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Absolutely no Genesis X VGT was damaged in the process 😏
 
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AdxRE
Yet 200 miles later, can this potentially be my best Time trial ever (result wise)?
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Not suggesting this to minimize your accomplishment, but maybe there are much less players partaking in this TT, and among those who did, they may have not insisted that much to get a good result.

@half_sourly's data will tell in the end but I would not be surprised if player base is less invested in this TT.
 
Lomic
Not suggesting this to minimize your accomplishment, but maybe there are much less players partaking in this TT, and among those who did, they may have not insisted that much to get a good result.

@half_sourly's data will tell in the end but I would not be surprised if player base is less invested in this TT.
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I don't know about the others...but this is my take on this TT.

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Lomic
Not suggesting this to minimize your accomplishment, but maybe there are much less players partaking in this TT, and among those who did, they may have not insisted that much to get a good result.

@half_sourly's data will tell in the end but I would not be surprised if player base is less invested in this TT.
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It's certainly a possibility. It was the same for me at Lake Louise. Just going off the sentiment here, the Genesis doesn't seem to be making many fans.
 
Hi,

Judging on previous comments and a very, very quick practice at Monza - I am going to sit this one out and spend more time at Lago Maggiore. I have quite a decent time there and I know where I can improve... Improve quite some.

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Dragonwhisky
I'd bet if that Genesis had braking capacity commensurate with its tearing your head off, melting rubber acceleration, it'd be better liked. As others are, I'm a bit befuddled how a designer would make a car capable of 300mph and 8 gears and not give it outstanding binders.
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If you can lock the brakes/activate ABS, it's a tire issue and not a brake issue. It may also be as heavy as a barge (but I haven't checked), which would lengthen braking distances (especially from ~200mph)
 
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I'm just going to say it: I really don't like Monza. It exposes all of my weaknesses. :nervous: I am not sure what pisses me off more, the Monza Track limits or this "car / setup". 233 miles today and I sit at +2.96% (1:39.468). :banghead:

I tried a variety of settings including all of the assists ON - ended up with TC:2 ABS: Default - I have been using ABS: Weak a lot recently with much success but have gone back to Default for this TT. I would be lost without the @Tidgney track guide and ghost. This week I have the Ghost Offset set to .1 as I need the visual reference to get the corner entry right to have any chance of keeping the car going in the direction I want it to!

If there is a Racing GOD, I need to request no more improvement at the top of the leaderboard! :D

Thanks to everyone here for all of the advice and encouragement.
 
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If you can lock the brakes/activate ABS, it's a tire issue and not a brake issue. It may also be as heavy as a barge (but I haven't checked), which would lengthen braking distances (especially from ~200mph)
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Oh, I fully admitted already there's a tire issue. And a downforce issue. And a hideously slow orange paint job issue.
 
Hello friends!

I am running out of time for both TT’s! Back at LM today in the skiddy Civic, it’s a challenge to eke out every last second and a lot of patience. I’ve set a time I’m happy with but migghhhtttt just revisit just to terrorize @Evilmuffin and @Boabdulrahman who both sit slightly ahead of me on the leaderboard :mad:

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The VGT at Monza.. no laps today but I did buy the car to customise the paint, what a waste of money that’ll be as this car is hateful.. I know nobody liked the Lambo VGT either but I used it on racing soft tyres in the Monza Vision GT race and it is so much more fun than this heap of…
 
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Have not been enjoying Monza TT. Spent much more time with the jimny at Lake Lousie treating that as my time trial. Have my time down to 1:16.459 there.
Spent some more time this afternoon and got my time at Monza into gold and will be leaving it alone.
 
So from what I can see, some of our resident fast drivers (who are normally well over 1.5 second clear of the gold target) are posting times at Monza with that car that are only within a few tenths or within a second of the gold target.....That doesn't bode too well for the rest of us humans 😱.

I watched some videos while I'm at work and If I had more time to play I might have considered giving that TT a go but I think I might sit that one out. With limited time to have fun in this game, I don't need that TT to turn those hours into a raging nightmare. I have yet to work on the civic at LM, so when I do have some time to play this weekend, I'm going to focus my energy on that and trying to gold a few leftover CEs and master licenses.

Hats off to everyone who managed to tame that Genesis.
 
zjn
What's the difference between abs weak and default (generally and in this specific)? They look quite the same to me
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As far as I can tell....stability. I don't think one brakes better than the other, but during trail braking, abs weak allows more rotation and normal keeps the car more stable. It is mostly a preference...personally I opt for weak, but there are tracks that I will change to normal...like...daytona (killer turn one).
 
zjn
What's the difference between abs weak and default (generally and in this specific)? They look quite the same to me
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Some understeery cars likes abs weak becuz minor locking rotates the car. But weak abs requires different approach for trail braking. Generally default abs is better for trail braking, and weak is better if you want to induce sudden rotation to the car when you release the brakes
 
It's been a while since I did any of these but I couldn't pass up an opportunity to drive the Genesis VGT without spending any credits. I wish we could do this with every car in the game but whatever. I knew that it would be fun after seeing all the comments about how difficult the car is to drive and the terrible braking performance. If you ask me, the braking capability is perfectly adequate for this sort of car. Don't forget you're hitting some seriously high speeds so don't expect it to pull up quickly. The biggest issue was drive traction on corner exit, because the amount of torque being generated by the hybrid unit is very high compared to the grip level available from the tyres. Sure, it wasn't great but it can be managed if you exercise a bit of patience. For a while there I was just pussyfooting around and not really paying attention, however after a quick break I quit stuffing around and actually started focusing on my lap time. The result was a 1:38.803 which puts me firmly in the gold bracket.
 
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Okay. I never use aids other than ABS, but watching some videos made me go with TC1. And 5th gear. Lots of 5th gear. Even 6th gear coming out of Parabolica. The traction control saved me coming out of Ascari. I put my foot down and didn't let off, which led to some tire spin but thankfully no CAR spin. :lol:
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It's early days I know, but this is the highest I've been up the friends leaderboard in some time. @Gomario JSP and @Evilmuffin, you've got solid gold. No need to go again. ;)
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Just scraped into bronze this morning at Monza, but had to put all the assists on to do it. I don't think this VGT is doing Genesis any favours, especially when comparing with the Ferrari or Lambo!
Also scraped into top 40,000 - but according to the GT site there are only about 49,000 trying..... 🤣

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Just one of those days! I shaved off two tenths at Maggiore but it should have been six tenths.
Nothing felt right, no consistency, but managed my best lap somehow. LOL (was a couple days ago now)
Might try one more time at Maggiore.

I somehow got a silver on my first clean lap of that Monza monstrosity today with a controller using traction control.
RH tires would have been nice on that VGT, that thing is a pig! 🐷 Gonna try with my wheel soon.


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Rough session... Was messing with FF, wheel rotation, brake pedal travel, etc.. Never quite got it dialed in.



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