GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

[TheNormsk]

I went back to the Afeela only to see the time trial was about the time out. So I had a good old go at it. I improved my time and got up to 64th on the leaderboard, 10th fastest American. I’m happy.

 

[Gomario JSP]

Morning folks,

Sunday was a lazy day, no early laps around the windmills with the bulgy Suubawuu
But i couldn't let the monday getting started without some proper yeeeting.
Multiple good S1's were thrown at the Germans amoung us but the curse of the S3 was real.
Fastest S1 was a .803 but painfully invalidated on the slow righthander befoe the last corner... where i never invalidate,
split .280 again... that would have been victory

Changed my colour on the board though, that means PB.
With a bad S1 .944 but fought my way back a little in S2 and had a very descent S3.
Lining up for the last corner is so difficult!, little throttle management did the trick...

Still @crome Cromyfied though.... so close, yet......

 

[crome]

@Gomario JSP I don't suppose there's something I can do to divert your attention to the beautiful TT at the HSR?
I don't think my four thousanths lead survives two more morning sessions of yours ... 🤣

Blistering S3 there, I would kill for one of those. I haven't shared my lap yet, but it was a 1:59.388 with a 1:16.256 S2 split, so do the math ... and that was already one of my fastest S3s ever 🙈

 

[Gomario JSP]

@Gomario JSP I don't suppose there's something I can do to divert your attention to the beautiful TT at the HSR?
I don't think my four thousanths lead survives two more morning sessions of yours ... 🤣

Blistering S3 there, I would kill for one of those. I haven't shared my lap yet, but it was a 1:59.388 with a 1:16.256 S2 split, so do the math ... and that was already one of my fastest S3s ever 🙈

Thanks buddy! ,this was my fastest S3 to until now, very hard to nail and lots of dreams have been crushed here
But your .256 split is faster than i have seen on my own screen
so for now.... your still save

And no...... def. no HSR for me

 

[NicoGmbh]

@crome @Gomario JSP

You guys are amazing 💪

Yesterday, I made another attempt to barely save 0.175 seconds.

My best sectors show 59,600, but that’s another story... I really think that once again, I will fail to join the top 100.

At my level, achieving the perfect lap and winning 0.400 to join you, it remains an Everest.

And I am not talking about the drivers who pulverize the barrier of .59.000 !

 

[MP81]

I went back to the Afeela only to see the time trial was about the time out. So I had a good old go at it. I improved my time and got up to 64th on the leaderboard, 10th fastest American. I’m happy.

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Very nice! Wanted to go back at that one, but with my throttle pedal issues...alas, I was unable to. I think I was in the upper one-hundreds last I checked.

 

[Gomario JSP]

@crome @Gomario JSP

You guys are amazing 💪

Yesterday, I made another attempt to barely save 0.175 seconds.

My best sectors show 59,600, but that’s another story... I really think that once again, I will fail to join the top 100.

View attachment 1520837

At my level, achieving the perfect lap and winning 0.400 to join you, it remains an Everest.

And I am not talking about the drivers who pulverize the barrier of .59.000 !

Thanks mate!

Roaming around in a sub 2 min lap isnt bad buddy!, thats still quick! that deserves some credit! and for what it's worth... getting top 100 on the roadcars is getting harder and harder though, the amount of top players lurking around here is mindblowing and everybody seems to want a piece of the pie, and there ain't enough pie 🤣 and I'm not sure how everybody keeps evolving 🤣

So S3 practice for you it is 😁

You got this!

 

[Lightsider74]

Since the gas pedal was starting to flake again last night, I wanted to swap in the AXC-Sim linear potentiometer for the gas pedal, TruBrake and a new harness.

And I'm glad I did get the harness...because I think this may have been the problem all along.

My next wheel, if I get one, won't be a Logitech. I'm on my 4th at now and had issues with them all. Not straight away after a good few months of heavy use. 3 had pedal issues similar to your problem and one had a paddles fault where occasionally it would do double shift up or down unintentionally.

But what to get instead!?

 

[MP81]

My next wheel, if I get one, won't be a Logitech. I'm on my 4th at now and had issues with them all. Not straight away after a good few months of heavy use. 3 had pedal issues similar to your problem and one had a paddles fault where occasionally it would do double shift up or down unintentionally.

But what to get instead!?

I'd probably stick with Logitech if I replaced, but go straight to the Pro setup, as it should fix any of the common failure points of the G923 (direct drive, load cells/contactless hall-effect sensors, etc). Fantec is obviously out there as well.

I'm not sure what the issue is with this new linear potentiometer - it seems like the scale is off, or it isn't positioned right on the PCB, but I'm waiting to hear back from their customer support on it. If needed (though annoying), I can swap my original potentiometer back in, as I think it was the harness being all mangled, and not the pot itself. But I'm hoping it is a more simple solution...

 

[Lightsider74]

I'd probably stick with Logitech if I replaced, but go straight to the Pro setup, as it should fix any of the common failure points of the G923 (direct drive, load cells/contactless hall-effect sensors, etc). Fantec is obviously out there as well.

I'm not sure what the issue is with this new linear potentiometer - it seems like the scale is off, or it isn't positioned right on the PCB, but I'm waiting to hear back from their customer support on it. If needed (though annoying), I can swap my original potentiometer back in, as I think it was the harness being all mangled, and not the pot itself. But I'm hoping it is a more simple solution...

I've owned an old Fanatec (Porsche Wheel Turbo S) but had issues with that too. It would just disconnect randomly when the car tyres were on the edge of grip esp on long sweeping turns. Replaced the pedals eventually with some CSR Elites and they seemed ok.

Out of all the wheels I've owned the Logitech G25 seemed to be the most reliable. Maybe it's the quality control that's not what it used to be. Logitech customer service seems reasonable too so that's a plus.

 

[TheNormsk]

Since the gas pedal was starting to flake again last night, I wanted to swap in the AXC-Sim linear potentiometer for the gas pedal, TruBrake and a new harness.

My next wheel, if I get one, won't be a Logitech. I'm on my 4th at now and had issues with them all. Not straight away after a good few months of heavy use. 3 had pedal issues similar to your problem and one had a paddles fault where occasionally it would do double shift up or down unintentionally.

I'd probably stick with Logitech if I replaced, but go straight to the Pro setup, as it should fix any of the common failure points of the G923 (direct drive, load cells/contactless hall-effect sensors, etc). Fantec is obviously out there as well.

Not wanting to get off-topic from time trialing, but i'm going off-topic...

I had a Logitech G23 with TruBrake set up. Getting the TruBrake and then properly anchoring my brake pedals to a board significantly improved my driving and propelled me to A rank from mid Bs. However, you still have to deal with the plasticly Logitech products and lack of feel. I ultimately abandoned all of that and got a Fanatec setup. Direct Drive is truly transformative. I'm happy with my 8NM DD with a 330mm RS rim and don't feel compelled to upgrade further on the wheel part. I might replace my pedals (CSL Elite V2) with Podium Pedals when they come out, but wheel is good for now.

If you have the opportunity to do DD, be it Logitech or Fanatec, do it.

 

[MP81]

I've owned an old Fanatec (Porsche Wheel Turbo S) but had issues with that too. It would just disconnect randomly when the car tyres were on the edge of grip esp on long sweeping turns. Replaced the pedals eventually with some CSR Elites and they seemed ok.

Out of all the wheels I've owned the Logitech G25 seemed to be the most reliable. Maybe it's the quality control that's not what it used to be. Logitech customer service seems reasonable too so that's a plus.

I know there's a glitch out there right now with one of the Fantec wheels where it does something different, but similar.

Not wanting to get off-topic from time trialing, but i'm going off-topic...

I had a Logitech G23 with TruBrake set up. Getting the TruBrake and then properly anchoring my brake pedals to a board significantly improved my driving and propelled me to A rank from mid Bs. However, you still have to deal with the plasticly Logitech products and lack of feel. I ultimately abandoned all of that and got a Fanatec setup. Direct Drive is truly transformative. I'm happy with my 8NM DD with a 330mm RS rim and don't feel compelled to upgrade further on the wheel part. I might replace my pedals (CSL Elite V2) with Podium Pedals when they come out, but wheel is good for now.

If you have the opportunity to do DD, be it Logitech or Fanatec, do it.

Yeah, it seems like their Pro line is much more robust in terms of feel. The Pro base has 11Nm of torque, so it's healthy as hell. My pedals are secured to my stand, but my chair is not, so that is the next step, especially with the TruBrake requiring more force overall - gonna have my chair scooting back, and I just lost my Official Chair Location Mitigator (a box with a set of brake pads in it that I finally just installed ), so I'll need to something new to keep me where I want to be in the meantime.

 

[TheNormsk]

a box with a set of brake pads in it that I finally just installed

You don't been brake pads. They just slow you down....

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I know there's a glitch out there right now with one of the Fantec wheels where it does something different, but similar.


Yeah, it seems like their Pro line is much more robust in terms of feel. The Pro base has 11Nm of torque, so it's healthy as hell. My pedals are secured to my stand, but my chair is not, so that is the next step, especially with the TruBrake requiring more force overall - gonna have my chair scooting back, and I just lost my Official Chair Location Mitigator (a box with a set of brake pads in it that I finally just installed ), so I'll need to something new to keep me where I want to be in the meantime.

Is what I used to firm up chair to pedals relations.

 

[LeandroSvSt]

This Camaro is a nice car to drive. Fits perfectly in this track. I want to explore more this car with default tyre, because with RS tyres seems a easy car to drive.

 

[MP81]

I swapped my old pot back into the pedals today (from what I can tell, it looks like the linear "scale" on my new one isn't placed quite properly, and this the pedal goes off it just before the pedal is all the way down) and it seems to be working all right, so, for some reason, I jumped back into that horrible Transmitted Infection and did improve by a little over a tenth, down to a 2:00.376, but my optimum is in the 1:59.8s.

How are ya'll getting this thing to do anything consistently? One lap it slides, and the next lap it doesn't. One lap it won't turn and the next lap you adjust and run into the inside wall because now it will turn. I cannot wrap my mind around it. You need to sometimes trail brake, but sometimes doing that exact same thing causes it to go sliding and blow your lap up.

It is mystifying and infuriating and I do not understand it.

 

[Aiko_Mac]

Yay, I beat my brother!

 

[NicoGmbh]

@MP81

The brakes change everything (weight transfer and grip):

• the timing for taking the pedal,
• the pressure applied,
• the progressivity of the trail.

And this in almost every turn.

 

[zaxs]

I have set pretty much safe gold time few days ago, but I knew I can better, so I pushed hard!

And this morning it happened, a lap with 0.300s cut!

Direct capture, ABS weak only, Dualsense:

Great TT.

 

[ZEE]

Managed to improve my time at the High speed ring with da Camaroooo!! I like this time trial, it may look simple (High power car, Bank straights) but getting the right exits are key here.

 

[MP81]

@MP81

The brakes change everything (weight transfer and grip):

• the timing for taking the pedal,
• the pressure applied,
• the progressivity of the trail.

And this in almost every turn.

It just seems one lap it does one thing, another it is completely different. Makes it so hard to piece together a good, fast, lap.

I meant to post my Potato of a replay last night but I had shut down already.



Turn 2 I, for some reason, downshifted to 2nd, though I did get the rotation I needed to be able to hammer the throttle. Turn 3 I didn't turn quite early enough, but still was able to make it pretty well.

 

[NicoGmbh]

@MP81

If I may say so because I have corrected more or less the same things :

T1: Exploit more width until shaving the barriers.

T2: Downshift faster 4-3 and no 2nd gear

T3: No lift but a slight brake and move to the 5th earlier

T8: Brake too late = skid

This Sub is like a good girlfriend, humbly, one must be virile but also a gentleman.

After to take her to nirvana and make her see stars, see with the aliens 👽


PS: I don’t know why but I already regret having given you this advice 😂

 

[MP81]

@MP81

If I may say so because I have corrected more or less the same things :

T1: Exploit more width until shaving the barriers.

T2: Downshift faster 4-3 and no 2nd gear

T3: No lift but a slight brake and move to the 5th earlier

T8: Brake too late = skid

This Sub is like a good girlfriend, humbly, one must be virile but also a gentleman.

After to take her to nirvana and make her see stars, see with the aliens 👽


PS: I don’t know why but I already regret having given you this advice 😂

Appreciate it - I'll be happy if I even get into the 1:59s.

The downshifts I run into shift-block issues, but I'll try and do that quicker and hope it doesn't lock me out.

So for T3 you actually find braking there instead of lifting works better? The lift works OK for me, I just always turn too late. Sometimes I've gotten it perfect...other times it is either too early, or the car turns better than before and blasts the inside wall, so it messes my timing up on that one.

T8 - which corner is that? It's hard to tell because some turns aren't entirely turns here haha

 

[NicoGmbh]

@MP81
A touch of the brake allows a slight rotation, which allows to shave the barriers. In VR, I feel like I’m going to touch the rails but no (my replay is available in my gallery).
This allows the car to go around earlier because it is calmed down by the 5th gear without risking touching the following rails, on the left
In this way, the ghost of @bliprunner disappears less quickly 😂

Turn 8 is the one just after the end of sector 2 when your stopwatch shows 1.17 whereas you have to go down to at least 1.16.xxx.

 

[MP81]

@MP81
A touch of the brake allows a slight rotation, which allows to shave the barriers. In VR, I feel like I’m going to touch the rails but no (my replay is available in my gallery).
This allows the car to go around earlier because it is calmed down by the 5th gear without risking touching the following rails, on the left
In this way, the ghost of @bliprunner disappears less quickly 😂

Turn 8 is the one just after the end of sector 2 when your stopwatch shows 1.17 whereas you have to go down to at least 1.16.xxx.

Aha...yeah...that one. I always struggle with that one. I usually aim to brake just before the marshal fence, but sometimes that leads me to slowing down too much, and other times, it isn't nearly enough, so it's back to the inconsistency I seem to face. I've switched back to ABS Weak simply due to it prioritizing more to braking force than Default if the vehicle is "turning", and by that I mean off-kilter, in some wacky direction because of the weight transfer. Weak allows me to still brake enough (well...usually), whereas Default thinks I'm turning and brakes less.

So I need to be braking even earlier then?

 

[Moglet]

I'm not really sure why but the Subaru TT is really not clicking with me at all. My first lap was a valid 2:08 and then I spent ages invalidating my laps due to stupid mistakes before eventually getting a 2:04.334. Now I just have to pray that this remains within the silver times.

 

[NicoGmbh]

@MP81

I cannot be more precise because now I play in VR. In 1 year, I moved from the pad, thé a wheel, then to VR... and my benchmarks have changed… a lot.

It’s really a matter of tenths of a second for you, from what I see.

On this combo, I advanced my braking and sometimes less is more.

 

[Stormbreaker]

Weight transfer is the key 🔑

 

[MP81]

@NicoGmbh do not fear, your time is safe, but I thank you for your assistance, as I finally broke into the 1:59s with a 1:59.903, and an optimum of ~.853, so I think I am happy with this time! I wanted into the 1:59s, and I got into them! "Only" took 100 miles tonight...and about 6 valid laps.