GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

[911RSR]

I had 3 further sessions at Spa last week. For the first 2 i turned the VR HUD of and just drove. Not much of an improvement with 0,1s.
Yesterday i went a bit more serious and found a small improvment here and there. In the end i finaly reached my sub 2:19 goal:

I can't imagine how you guys do those 2:17 laps! Absolutly alien!

 

[Shah1]

Entered the gold zone at AP 😁 , so close to touch the 04s... kind of miracle lap though because I was doing low 06s.

Following @Vule's ghost as usual lately, he has the good taste of being in my friend's list (he's not responsible for that, sure), but more importantly he logs a top 10 times very often, so it is very convenient to pick a ghost 🙏

Well done, I'm still in silver with .06! Struggling to get any faster.. Question though, I'm seeing peeps using kitted out Bimmers, are we allowed to use cars with tweaked suspension?

 

[zaxs]

After I yesterday improved for 0.007s, I didn't want to even make a video of it.
Today, different story - I cut almost tenth right away...
...and one more even more faster

Direct capture:

 

[Lomic]

Well done, I'm still in silver with .06! Struggling to get any faster.. Question though, I'm seeing peeps using kitted out Bimmers, are we allowed to use cars with tweaked suspension?

Settings = fixed, so no.

 

[KK78]

Well done, I'm still in silver with .06! Struggling to get any faster.. Question though, I'm seeing peeps using kitted out Bimmers, are we allowed to use cars with tweaked suspension?

No, the settings are fixed, but the visuals are not (livery, wings, bodykits etc...) Note though, if you 'wide body' a car, you won't be able to use it in the time trials.

 

[MP81]

Speaking of prizes, anyone in here managed to grab anything from last Hyundai challenge at Nordschleife?

No, but weren't we supposed to get Polestar 5's from that TT that happened months ago?

I had to buy my own for a weekly challenge a few weeks back, so that'd have been nice if we would've already gotten that...assuming I'm not just misremembering, but I swear it was for anyone who participated...

 

[SPDN Stefano]

This is a fun combo, it made me try a lot harder than usual. I think I can get a high 2:02 if I put it all together, but easier said than done obviously.

 

[MIE1992]

In retrospect, when I did the time trial at Spa-Francorchamps with the 911 GT3 R '22, I felt like the first gear was a lot more useful than on most other Gr.3 racers I've driven, especially at the first hairpin as well as the last chicane. I would imagine it's due to a longer first gear ratio?

 

[NevilleNobody]

Porsche's are known for horribly long gearing, drives owners insane. You try to have a bit of fun and you are at 100mph at the top of 3rd.

 

[Dan_Tes]

It’s also got a lot of mechanical grip with the engine in the back and all the power is at the top end so perfect car for 1st and 2nd gear shenanigans!

I didn’t make it into the 2:16s at Spa but I’ve given up.. was a good lap besides a slightly suspect entry into Pouhon (no idea why I found it so difficult) but the rest was pretty pretty good so I’m pleased with this.. hopefully holds for another top 100 whoop whoop!

 

[CosmicMinster]

Got the sub 2:02 and still barely hanging in the top 10! I didn't do my fastest sector 1 on this lap so I think .8 may be possible.

 

[911RSR]

It’s also got a lot of mechanical grip with the engine in the back and all the power is at the top end so perfect car for 1st and 2nd gear shenanigans!

I didn’t make it into the 2:16s at Spa but I’ve given up.. was a good lap besides a slightly suspect entry into Pouhon (no idea why I found it so difficult) but the rest was pretty pretty good so I’m pleased with this.. hopefully holds for another top 100 whoop whoop!

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Crazy fast lap!

At the first intermediate i'm only 0,1s behind. But from there i'm loosing 1,7s!
From the video i can't see how your lap is so much faster than mine. It even looks like you have a little slide into Pouhon, which probably cost you one or two tenth.
Besides that i'm taking the same line like you, but only slower as the clock tells.
Think i have to go again ..

But again: great lap!

 

[Dan_Tes]

Crazy fast lap!

At the first intermediate i'm only 0,1s behind. But from there i'm loosing 1,7s!
From the video i can't see how your lap is so much faster than mine. It even looks like you have a little slide into Pouhon, which probably cost you one or two tenth.
Besides that i'm taking the same line like you, but only slower as the clock tells.
Think i have to go again ..

But again: great lap!

Ahhhhh the mystery of going fast! You’ve got the foundation right if you have that racing line and from there the devil is all in the details! And by ‘devil in the details’ I mean the law of diminishing returns… as you can see in the screenshot I did 350 miles yesterday; mostly on this trial and only gained three tenths of a second. Not a very productive use of time

I spend most trials watching the fastest ghost replays and just being flabbergasted at how fast the truly fast people are; even at Spa where on that lap I feel like I’m right at the limit, I’m losing time on almost every corner to the WR ghost, I never even got close to his S1 split in the whole time I was trying such was the perfection of his entry and exit to La Source. It’s especially difficult to see where you are losing time because S2 is so bloody long!

I can’t give you a hard fast reason as to why you are losing time but for me I analyse every corner; braking points are easy to choose but beyond that there are so many variables that can make you those tiny gains, but added together over a 2 minute+ lap they come to a lot. At Spa for example a lot of the corners are off camber which makes braking and entering tricky and a lot of time is lost there; getting on the power early out of the slower corners too.. the GT3R seems to lose a lot of time whenever it breaks traction so even the slightest slide on corner exit costs a good deal of time!

 

[crome]

I can’t give you a hard fast reason as to why you are losing time but for me I analyse every corner; braking points are easy to choose but beyond that there are so many variables that can make you those tiny gains, but added together over a 2 minute+ lap they come to a lot.

Especially because many corners are followed by long straights that punish you for the tiniest mistakes. As a VR player I don't usually see deltas (the HUD doesn't support them) but the Porsche has a built-in gauge for them, and it's really striking how a slightly missed apex at Pouhon can translate into half a second loss. For that reason I stopped worrying about S1 at some point because the 2 tenths that separated an average from a great lap paled in comparison to what I could gain or lose in S2 / S3.

 

[911RSR]

Ahhhhh the mystery of going fast! You’ve got the foundation right if you have that racing line and from there the devil is all in the details! And by ‘devil in the details’ I mean the law of diminishing returns… as you can see in the screenshot I did 350 miles yesterday; mostly on this trial and only gained three tenths of a second. Not a very productive use of time

I spend most trials watching the fastest ghost replays and just being flabbergasted at how fast the truly fast people are; even at Spa where on that lap I feel like I’m right at the limit, I’m losing time on almost every corner to the WR ghost, I never even got close to his S1 split in the whole time I was trying such was the perfection of his entry and exit to La Source. It’s especially difficult to see where you are losing time because S2 is so bloody long!

I can’t give you a hard fast reason as to why you are losing time but for me I analyse every corner; braking points are easy to choose but beyond that there are so many variables that can make you those tiny gains, but added together over a 2 minute+ lap they come to a lot. At Spa for example a lot of the corners are off camber which makes braking and entering tricky and a lot of time is lost there; getting on the power early out of the slower corners too.. the GT3R seems to lose a lot of time whenever it breaks traction so even the slightest slide on corner exit costs a good deal of time!

Thank you so much for that detailed reply - allthough it wasn't my intention to ask you for support.
My post was more a note of admiration of your lap (and every other GTP-driver in those lap time dimensions)! And a note to myself to get back to this TT and not being satisfied with what i got.

And to your reply - i think it's correct to state it's the s little things that separate an average driver (me, from my point of view) from an excellent one (you).
And while you mention 'off camber corners' - i watched the laps of the current leader and 'D. Chafe' and thought "what a weird line they take through Pouhon". That off camber thing might be the answer. I guess they break while the car is still going straight and avoid breaking while the car leans to the right.
I usually trailbreak into 'Pouhon', should be worth trying something different!

 

[Dan_Tes]

Especially because many corners are followed by long straights that punish you for the tiniest mistakes. As a VR player I don't usually see deltas (the HUD doesn't support them) but the Porsche has a built-in gauge for them, and it's really striking how a slightly missed apex at Pouhon can translate into half a second loss. For that reason I stopped worrying about S1 at some point because the 2 tenths that separated an average from a great lap paled in comparison to what I could gain or lose in S2 / S3.

I’ve got mixed feelings about not having the instant split time constantly in VR, I used to think I would miss it but honestly sometimes having that visual representation of how far you are up can be unnerving towards the end of the lap; I am pretty sure @half_sourly and others have put tape on their tv’s over the instant split display to avoid it putting them off! But like you say it’s a good visual guide to where you are losing time that you miss in VR, as I always chase a ghost I get used to just judging the distances between us as a guide! It is quite satisfying when that little display turns green on the dash of the GT3R though!

Thank you so much for that detailed reply - allthough it wasn't my intention to ask you for support.
My post was more a note of admiration of your lap (and every other GTP-driver in those lap time dimensions)! And a note to myself to get back to this TT and not being satisfied with what i got.

And to your reply - i think it's correct to state it's the s little things that separate an average driver (me, from my point of view) from an excellent one (you).
And while you mention 'off camber corners' - i watched the laps of the current leader and 'D. Chafe' and thought "what a weird line they take through Pouhon". That off camber thing might be the answer. I guess they break while the car is still going straight and avoid breaking while the car leans to the right.
I usually trailbreak into 'Pouhon', should be worth trying something different!

Of course man I just thought I’d give you my thoughts on it unsolicited 😬; sometimes it’s a bit of a mystery how people can be fast; Pouhon is definitely the weirdest corner on this trial because I think the way you’d drive it in real life isn’t the fastest here; the current fastest ghost actually has a crazy steering angle going into the first apex… way more steering angle than is required but it seems to be quicker because of the combination of tyre and downforce physics in GT7. Especially as traditionally Racing tyres are very punishing to understeer in GT7 yet it seems to reward it here!

The fastest drivers are able to completely disconnect from reality to find the fastest way round a corner which separates them from us mere mortals!

Edit: and just for fun here’s me driving Pouhon for real and leaving a bit more on the table than in a computer game 🤣

 

[Gorefast]

Thank you so much for that detailed reply - allthough it wasn't my intention to ask you for support.
My post was more a note of admiration of your lap (and every other GTP-driver in those lap time dimensions)! And a note to myself to get back to this TT and not being satisfied with what i got.

And to your reply - i think it's correct to state it's the s little things that separate an average driver (me, from my point of view) from an excellent one (you).
And while you mention 'off camber corners' - i watched the laps of the current leader and 'D. Chafe' and thought "what a weird line they take through Pouhon". That off camber thing might be the answer. I guess they break while the car is still going straight and avoid breaking while the car leans to the right.
I usually trailbreak into 'Pouhon', should be worth trying something different!

From my Point of View I call myself average and you sit as "fast" right among His excellence @Dan_Tes and me... It is a Porsche so I know you can do better. 😂 I had a first run in this TT yesterday and although I absolutely love Spa I will take silver as there are too many distractions at the moment for me. Good fun to everyone!

 

[Carlos Fandango]

Nothing meaningful to contribute to the above as @Dan_Tes and @crome are both faster than me - great advice though, and agree with both on the difficulty of ‘spotting’ the entry to Pouhon correctly.

The rest of the family were out at a concert last night, so grabbed 30 mins and had another run in the BMW. Picked up a tenth to drop under 2:03. There’s still another tenth to pick up.

 

[Stormbreaker]

Damn the competition in this TT is insane!
I have a cold too in this days 🤧 so it was even more difficult 😂
Anyway under the 2.18 mark for my 180° Gold 🥇
I don't know why but the car felt pretty strange in some corners 🤔

 

[KK78]

Chopped a second off at Autopolis, a fun combo this one.

 

[Barareklam]

 

[Dan_Tes]

It’s just as everybody described!

Shame it’s not a DCT model as the gear ratios are a little bit closer and therefore it has a bit more punch. Sports Hard tyres are a bit ridiculous but they do make it fun to drive!!

 

[MP81]

I'm thinking tonight will likely be my last (so, second, because vacation) attempt to better my lap at Spa. I'm healthily into Gold, but like...4000th, and that simply will not do. I will not likely have enough time tomorrow between ending work early and leaving for dinner before a concert.

Problem is, whatever it is that I ran like a week and a half ago was on a lap I thought was excellent so...where's that extra speed gonna come from, hmmm...

My pedal upgrade parts finally showed up after sitting between being approved by customs in Chicago and getting to the post office's hub...in Chicago...for an entire week. But I won't be installing those until this weekend.

 

[ZEE]

Hey you guys!!! I finally managed to get into the Goldy club, took me about 5 good laps to bash it in but a very rewarding nonetheless!