- 2,102
- United Kingdom
- half_sourly
Interim Results for the Special TT Honda Racing eMS - GT Fastest Attack 2024 - Challenge Class at Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps in the Honda RA272 '65.
Soooo... what's up with this? Another TT available? I've nnot turned my PS5 on yet so just going by the website:
![]()
![]()
Also of note, according to the website the two RA272 TTs expire on 9/15 but within the game it says they expire on 9/1. I trust the game, but if you're not paying close attention just know you have less time than what the site says (I assume).
As I mentioned last week, there was likely to be a few more Summer events.And Suzuka for the young'uns. There were also some regionals last summer (3 US for the Porsche Esports Challenge; 7 in Japan - 6 as a series of Bridgestone tie-ins and a "All Japan Prefectural eSports Championship 2023 KAGOSHIMA") so I'm expecting more to roll in. A couple more followed in Autumn for GB and Japan. You can link to results for all those (not U17s) from here if interested.
I think we can all agree that it's time for everyone to stop trying on RBR and go to something other, like... Anything?Interim Results for TT93 at Red Bull Ring in Gr.3 cars. At this interim stage it is the 19th most difficult TT to date on my difficulty-o-meter.
View attachment 1379258
View attachment 1379257View attachment 1379256
It's impressive how many manufacturers PD are getting to run competitions in GT now. You've got the Toyota Cup, the Mazda Spirit Racing competition in Japan, the Porsche competitions in the US, the Honda eSports cup and now Mercedes.Soooo... what's up with this? Another TT available? I've nnot turned my PS5 on yet so just going by the website:
![]()
![]()
Also of note, according to the website the two RA272 TTs expire on 9/15 but within the game it says they expire on 9/1. I trust the game, but if you're not paying close attention just know you have less time than what the site says (I assume).
Well, that's it. No more Eiger TT's, I don't care what car it is. Almost 200 laps and nothing much, you can see I made one more effort with the MT and you see how that went, down south. Good, another HSR TT, I did gold the LM55 one back a year ago.
My placement was not the best, i was ranked 77,946th at Eiger, so a majority of players were faster than me,
I swear!...
I've taken a screenshot of that - I won't be in position 57 again! 🤣🤣🤣Interim Results for the Special TT Honda Racing eMS - GT Fastest Attack 2024 - Challenge Class at Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps in the Honda RA272 '65.
View attachment 1379270 View attachment 1379272
Majority of us will just grab the gold and runProbably won't touch it again
So, super very easy for 99% of us.
Grazie, but I'm sure you can do it tooStop putting pressure, it's not fair!
View attachment 1379281
😜
Btw, great stuff with your times!!!!
I'm not talking about getting your best lap, but getting an idea of what your best lap could be.First of all, not everyone of us can drive constantly in all sectors of a track in 10 laps, some of us need more. And until you achieve that it can last 10 laps yes, but on some tracks it can go way higher. Even after around 40 laps in Eiger, I couldnt get the lap I wanted on every corner.
I don't entirely know how to comment on this and this isn't a go at you, Famine. However, your post here does highlight where I think I'm trying to go with it.I'm not talking about getting your best lap, but getting an idea of what your best lap could be.
As for the frustration expressed by others, we've all tried helping this individual out. It's never heeded and we get dozens of posts repeating the same cycle of baselessly optimistic targets, waffle, dozens of replies (to posts he's barely read) which now include bizarre anecdotes about pets not paying attention to the Green Cross Code, promises of going to do the event, more waffle about family life and food, annoyance with how far off he is (after ignoring all advice), and then complaints about the car or track before the cycle starts again on the next TT.
It's little surprise that members get annoyed with reading the same things over and over again while their advice and help is being ignored. He made half a dozen comments about how great @Tidgney and his videos are (which is fair enough), but then we get a video of his Eiger lap showing... he didn't heed any of the advice contained in it.
Like, short-shifting was the number one way of gaining gobs of time; Tidgney literally says "this is a short-shifting car" and you can see him shifting at barely 6k throughout, but guess what our hero doesn't do?
not a nothing post at all. I was about to post something similar. It seems pretty apparent that Chris's autism plays a role in this for sure. There's a disconnect between the information we are sending and the message he's receiving at times. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is. But yes, a difficult thing to moderate in a general sense.I don't entirely know how to comment on this and this isn't a go at you, Famine. However, your post here does highlight where I think I'm trying to go with it.
Perhaps the frustration others are experiencing comes from a lack of ability for this member to apply what is being said to their execution of a task due to being on the autistic spectrum. I believe they have mentioned it various times (I've been PM'd by them about it, too) and it explains why there is a type of repetition to their posts. You really can't expect someone with neurodivergence to understand the social atmosphere in the way others do. Their reality doesn't sync the same way. When they've openly shared their condition, I think the community could show more leniency.
Though we're all given the same agreement when we sign up for GTPlanet, we all perceive things a bit differently. And, though this may seem all social-justice-y, I can appreciate the complexity this creates when trying to moderate a forum. "How long can this behaviour be accommodated?" is a question I have wondered for more than half a year or so now. And, slowly over time, it seems that the frustration has been building. As a Moderator, you obviously can't ignore the behaviour, but others seem to pick apart this member's behaviour rather than ignore it.
I think, based on writing this passage alone, I'm leaning more toward tolerance than anything else and would suggest others do as well. Are they causing harm, or merely frustrating you? Because, bluntly put, your frustration is a "you" problem. There is a solution for it through ignoring posts or members entirely.
I'm of two minds. This may be a 'nothing' post.
But the most troublesome part is, how often we have to deal with these miscommunications.not a nothing post at all. I was about to post something similar. It seems pretty apparent that Chris's autism plays a role in this for sure. There's a disconnect between the information we are sending and the message he's receiving at times. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just the way it is. But yes, a difficult thing to moderate in a general sense.
It's worth noting at this point that the rate of neurodivergency (in particular the autistic spectrum) is much higher among both people who play games (and particularly racing games) and use internet forums than it is in the background population - and one should not assume that either the people responding or the staff of a racing game forum are excluded from this.Perhaps the frustration others are experiencing comes from a lack of ability for this member to apply what is being said to their execution of a task due to being on the autistic spectrum. I believe they have mentioned it various times (I've been PM'd by them about it, too) and it explains why there is a type of repetition to their posts. You really can't expect someone with neurodivergence to understand the social atmosphere in the way others do. Their reality doesn't sync the same way. When they've openly shared their condition, I think the community could show more leniency.
For most people, this is the case (and for some it has been the solution). For others (like the staff) it is not; we cannot (for very obvious reasons) ignore any member.There is a solution for it through ignoring posts or members entirely.
That's interesting! Without sounding prude, can you share where this has been found? I might end up going down another research rabbit hole.It's worth noting at this point that the rate of neurodivergency (in particular the autistic spectrum) is much higher among both people who play games (and particularly racing games) and use internet forums than it is in the background population - and one should not assume that either the people responding or the staff of a racing game forum are excluded from this.
I don't know your position on this forum. Are you staff? If you have to deal with them, then you have my understanding. Otherwise, why wouldn't you ignore it?But the most troublesome part is, how often we have to deal with these miscommunications.
Well disagree. I race against my own ghost and after spending enough km (even around 500) on it Im more often gold than silver and almost always start from bronze time (sometimes not even that). So for me racing against own ghost and watching fastest drivers laps works.I know that I've said this before, because you're not one for actually heeding advice*, but what exactly are you learning by doing 200 laps with only yourself to compare your laps to?
You don't get faster just by spending more time, and you don't get better if you don't know where to improve. All you're doing is following yourself... for four hours.
Five or ten laps is enough to know where you are. Anything beyond that is a waste of time if you're not clear where you can improve and you don't get there by following yourself or by looking at other people's leaderboard times.
Find a ghost on your friends list that's faster than you by only a little bit. Set the ghost to reset at each sector and with a +0.3 or +0.4s offset. Follow it, to find out where it's gaining time on you, and improve until you're faster than it. Then find a new ghost that's a little faster than you and repeat.
And stop setting yourself unrealistic goals. You're not going to get three seconds faster on a 90-second lap. Especially not if you keep wasting time by not employing methods that will help you improve, or spending several hours a day posting inanities here and replying to posts without actually reading them*.
*For an example of both of these things, there's a dozen people telling you (and videos showing you) in this thread to short-shift the Impreza at Eiger. Did you do that? Nope, your video shows you revving it right out...
It's been a while since I was involved in proper science, but there's definitely been research into it. From my recollection, autistic spectrum is overrepresented among gamers defined as those other than casual (games' appeal is they generally have clear structure and a defined action-reward loop), people who describe themselves as car enthusiasts, motorsports fans, and heavy internet users (not so much those whose internet use consists of Facebook).That's interesting! Without sounding prude, can you share where this has been found? I might end up going down another research rabbit hole.
Disagreeing by agreeing, it seems?Well disagree.
So for me racing against own ghost and watching fastest drivers laps works.
no current golds for me either. I take a small amount of solace in the fact that it seems these recent TTs have been on the "difficult" end of the scale and I have managed decent silvers in all except the RBR one (which is a very tenuous silver so far.) I have hopes for gold in the new one at HSR though...I had a third try at Eiger last night to see if I could get out of silver. 40 minutes later I had completely failed. Mostly laps were within thousandths of a second so I was consistent at least. So I set my fastest lap on the very first try and then ingrained bad habits on how to drive the track and was never able to match that pace again. The best I ever got was within .1s of my PB. So I ended up something like 3.67% (I think).
I do not have a single TT in the gold zone currently. I'm going backwards....
Are you still switching back and forth between VR and flat? If so, how do the times compare?I do not have a single TT in the gold zone currently. I'm going backwards....
you can't wall ride. Touching a wall invalidates the lap.I haven't watched any guides for this one, but is it wall-riding bonanza?
Never mind, just saw thisAre you still switching back and forth between VR and flat? If so, how do the times compare?