Time Trial Discussion

[Gomario JSP]

Couldn't it be possible that while the game tracks tyre temperature, hence it's available in telemetry data, it simply doesn't use it as an input to its physics engine in time trials? Although, to counter my own point, I would then expect it to work the same way for tyre wear, i.e. you can observe it in telemetry, but it has no effect.

In any case, I am also in the camp of people who restart all the time and often have my fastest lap after a restart 🤷‍♂️

In other news, my internet is back. 🥳

Will reactivate the plug-in after I get home from work.

yes that's prob. what's going on, looking at the temp go higher ( i think the GTR back then went to 79 or something compared to the 58 start if i remember correctly ) didn't make it feel very different tho, i intent to push from lap one, first corner i'm pushing already, i'd rather restart 10 times then have a few 50% laps, it's all or nothing

But still weird temp do change on the dash, in my opinion only rimsize sometimes is a problem and for the rest i should not make a difference right .... or do we also have different sound with another exhaust in trials??

 

[ikon_313]

Couldn't it be possible that while the game tracks tyre temperature, hence it's available in telemetry data, it simply doesn't use it as an input to its physics engine in time trials? Although, to counter my own point, I would then expect it to work the same way for tyre wear, i.e. you can observe it in telemetry, but it has no effect.

In any case, I am also in the camp of people who restart all the time and often have my fastest lap after a restart 🤷‍♂️

In other news, my internet is back. 🥳

Will reactivate the plug-in after I get home from work.

This is not only entirely possible, but at least in Sport Mode Qualifying actually the case, according to @Tidgney's YT video on tyre temps. Unfortunately the video doesn't cover online Time Trials and I don't have anywhere near the same consistency or pace to make anything more than an assumption based on my own observations.

 

[Saargasm]

I don't have anywhere near the same consistency or pace

That's me in a nutshell!! Anytime I want to test something can never decide if better or just me lol

 

[Lomic]

That's me in a nutshell!! Anytime I want to test something can never decide if better or just me lol

I won't throw you a stone 😅

 

[half_sourly]

Couldn't it be possible that while the game tracks tyre temperature, hence it's available in telemetry data, it simply doesn't use it as an input to its physics engine in time trials?

Yes. Just because there is data does not mean the data is used in the game. Maybe a strawman argument, but a non-car physics element is evident at the current Daytona TT. Wind data is 0 mph, but look at the flags around the track; all waving as if there is a stiff breeze.

 

[SPL170db]

Definitely NOT a safe time by a long shot, so I'll be back in later to improve.

 

[newmedia_dev]

But to play devils advocate @half_sourly the concept of dirty tires is used and affects grip, the same with over heating them. Albeit both of these are temporary affects but temperature is a factor in the latter.

🤔

 

[Jules_r]

Definitely NOT a safe time by a long shot, so I'll be back in later to improve.


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Cool livery, I immediately thought 'Competition' when I saw the Red Head!

 

[half_sourly]

But to play devils advocate @half_sourly the concept of dirty tires is used and affects grip, the same with over heating them. Albeit both of these are temporary affects but temperature is a factor in the latter.

🤔

Indeed. We'll never know without seeing the algorithms. A lot of unanswered questions.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Indeed. We'll never know without seeing the algorithms. A lot of unanswered questions.

It's fun to speculate, very much the same thing with engine oil and bop!! I mean in dailies QT/Race and TTs it wears the oil but with bop it's suppose to equalise the cars so why not just freeze the wear & mileage for them

Like you say the mysterious black box that is GT and PD!

Does worn oil slow your car? Do tire temps really matter??

 

[SPL170db]

Cool livery, I immediately thought 'Competition' when I saw the Red Head!

I always like the old school Koenig Ferrari's back in the day. Was happy to find this one in there.

 

[crome]

Alright, plug-in is working again!

Here are some interim statistics for TT125 at Daytona Road Course in the Gr.3.

Spoiler: GTP Scoreboard

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Wow, P6 on the GTP board currently, that's crazy! Also it seems like trying to get my 3rd top 100 in this TT of all things is a foolish effort, seeing that pretty much everyone trails significantly behind their best placements. Well everyone except @A_Higher_Place , and I think we can all agree that there's something fishy going on with this dude recently 😄

Anyway, it's still fun as hell, and placing high on the board is motivation enough with or without the 👽 badge.

Will still try the Testarossa later tonight and, judging from prior experience, probably completely forget about Daytona and focus on the shiny new thing

 

[Gomario JSP]

I quickly did a remote blast around with the Testarossa, not thr most ideal combo to remote, that's funny cause the Focus was VERY good on remote....
I don't know... tomorrow we try a first real session...

What I learned just yet....

• brake early
• brake more early
• A V12 is indeed heavy upfront
• T1 is fire with this thing!

Shall take a while to master this fine line under and oversteer beauty, but come on... ...what's better than a Testa on SH's ?
( I know ...F40 would have been better 🤣 )

Somewhere is the 38.3 ....buy that's not the point .....look at it! ❤️🤣

 

[newmedia_dev]

A V12 is indeed heavy upfront

It's mid engined 🥷

 

[bluealpine]

A bit improvment at brands hatch.
You are right @Gomario JSP , Brake early is the way here. Look outside of the curve is the way too...

 

[Vule]

It's mid engined 🥷

I was going to write this

It's really a delicate car to drive around here, no yeeting, just super precise inputs, cautious and smooth on the throttle and the brake, trailbraking really makes a difference, you need to gently massage it and flow through this beautiful track.

 

[NicoGmbh]

( I know ...F40 would have been better 🤣 )

You’re right.

Sir Lewis Hamilton was not wrong in his first official photo.

He absolutly nailed it.

 

[pcmfocus]

10 laps on Brands was enough don't like the track so i prob not gonna go back 😅

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Wow, P6 on the GTP board currently, that's crazy! Also it seems like trying to get my 3rd top 100 in this TT of all things is a foolish effort, seeing that pretty much everyone trails significantly behind their best placements. Well everyone except @A_Higher_Place , and I think we can all agree that there's something fishy going on with this dude recently 😄

 

[Lomic]

First stint at BH with the Testarossa, I find it more enjoyable than I anticipated it.

Need to pinpoint braking points... other than that nothing to declare.

Spoiler

 

[Gomario JSP]

It's mid engined 🥷

Yeah.... kind of a very bad choise of words, this makes me look rather stupid 🙈🤣🤣

I'll refrase 🤣 the V12 feels kind of heavy under braking 😁🤣

But after a few laps extra I'm beginning to understand it and you can get on the throttle quite early if you are delicate, smoothly sliding around, lot of fun!

 

[NevilleNobody]

I feel this will be a real test of my transition from "brake hard and late, square up the car until you can use full throttle" style to a smoother one.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I feel this will be a real test of my transition from "brake hard and late, square up the car until you can use full throttle" style to a smoother one.

Honestly just let the car float between or through corners, Tidgney said it well when he said the car wants to be doing something so just a gentle throttle prod or tease the brake.

Keep the car as best you can under some sort of load.

Edit: transition to smoother braking you can adjust how much you are braking so hard and late is fine if you can really lean on modulating them and coming off them as you turn in

 

[manou]

Really really great combo, the Ferrari works so nicely on Brand Hatch !! Highly recommanded TT for all !

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Is sveryone using counter steering and ASM for the Brands Hatch TT? I'm finding ASM is also preventing some slide... but perhaps I just haven't gotten to grips with it yet. Road cars aren't my forte.