Tire opinions wanted !

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I've noticed that a lot of the pro drifters on this forum swear by the simulation tires/low horsepower drift style. But the video clips I've seen seem to show the cars drifting at high speeds.

To achive high speed drifts, I go with a high grip/high horsepower combo.

Example - S13 (fully tuned)

* Stage 4 turbo
* Racing tires - Medium - slick

It works well for me, but I do have trouble breaking the tires loose at will. The sim tires are great at this, but can't handle the HP. I'd spend all my time "grandma'ing" the gas pedal, as to not smoke the tires in the straits.


Should I ditch my style, and re-learn to drift with the sim tires/ low HP ? Or do some of you guys set up your cars similar to mine ?
 
I go with a semi high HP...not fully tuned with high traction.....
ex. my RX-7 Type RZ has 475 HP and super softs on front and back(sometimes Ill go with a medium soft front and medium slick back if I just wanna screw around)...and I have no problem getting the tires to spin on command........it all depends on your driving style and how you set up your car......the low HP and simulation tires is not as fast as the high HP and high traction
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Ok, good.

Looks like I'm not alone with this tire/power setup. I can't see myself going with anything different.

Oh, and I do use the side brake for line adjustment. But not nearly as much as I probably should.
 
I never use the e-brake.................I just use the gas to adjust
the angle.........if you set the gear ratio to really sporty you will have the power to get the tires to spin on command to help with the angle of the drift.......hope this helps
 
Originally posted by mindless_dude
all my drift cars have between 200-600 hp and i always use sim tires its is just throttle control.

I drift two kinds of cars:

- ~300HP RWD cars, little to no weight reduction, anywhere from 1300-1500KG, sim tires...I stay sideways through medium sweepers mostly.

- ~600HP RWD cars, all kinds of weight reduction, better tires. On Free Run I can usually get a little tail-swing action in any car with the ASC and TCS turned off and still get nice lap times. And in the RUF RGT, with 700+HP and sim tires I can drift all the way through both turns in Super Speedway...:eek:

But yeah, unless I'm going for that Japanese drift video look, I don't use the e-brake. If you have to use it your car isn't powerful enough or set up right.

-get perp.
 
I drift with the low-hp sim tires style. It works fine for me, even thought the drifts aren't at high speeds. I'm thinking about trying the high hp racing tire style.
 
I use high hp, and racing slicks, with ASC, and TCS turned off, my cars drift just fine for me with that combination, and I can make full drifts around big turns.
 
i drift super soft tires with TCS 2 and ASM 1, grips good while drifting and very fast drift on turnings over 75 mph on the big turn on Trial Mountain but on the 240 fastback, with TCS 1 and ASM 0, drifts good!!!
 
i know i am no expert when it comes to GT drifting because i just learned about it about a month ago but my S15 Silvia used to have about 300hp and sims but i have since changed over to 400hp and norms. i can now drift way better than before without spinning out halfway through the turn. and now that i have a bit more hp i can drift longer turns wth more speed. so in conclusion i love norms and may never drift with anything else...keword may;)
 
All those people who claim going with simulation tires is the best dont know true control. I use a highly tuned RX-7 running well over 700 hp. And the tires I use are medium soft. I have so much control in the drift it would amaze you. Like the driver of the Signal S15 said: kids these days buy tires with extremely low grip and think they can drift with them but really, skilled drivers know that high grip tires give much more control. I think you oughta tune your car up high and just use high grip tires. If it has enough HP and tcs and smc is turned off you should have now trouble drifting and in fact will notice the extreme diffrence in handling
 
by the way... only crappy drivers use the e brake to start a drift. it is by far one of the worst ways to start a drift. it should only be used in a drift to keep it going... and even then it makes for less control.
 
Originally posted by superb doriftoo
by the way... only crappy drivers use the e brake to start a drift. it is by far one of the worst ways to start a drift. it should only be used in a drift to keep it going... and even then it makes for less control.

Then how would you drift a FF car?
 
Technically its not "drifting". It is just power sliding or tail whipping. I can power slide and tail whip just fine with most of the ff cars on GT3, but its not actually drifting.
 
funny you should ask :lol: i drift my FF car. i own a '98 Prelude VTEC. in order to drift it...i have to use the handbrake to swing the rear around, then release the hand brake, and by this time i've already downshift to 2nd or whichever gear is necessary, pop the clutch, the front tires begin to spin and pull the car around the turn with the rear end at a slight angle. to control understeer i use my left foot for the brake(not e-brake, but normal) the whole time with the gas floored.
 
i dont get you guys, wasnt the topic was tire not how to drift, comeon people, anyways i dont know why u guys still drift so slow, for me, i drift maximun powers and super soft tires, faster drifting, its not that it dont drift good, its because the setting, and plus u must be good at full speed into a corner, because if u cant go full speed then u cant drift all the way o the corner, but make sure u have enough breaking too, plus when u drift dont just push the accelerator all the way, thast gonna make ur car oversteer and spin out, you have to let go of the gas and push it fast to accelerate in a turn, but u have to be good like me to do it with max power and super soft tire, if u need some more techniques then just ask me or email me dont forget to check my TWIN DRIFTING PICs
 
i know how to drift thank you very much. I know that only idiots drift cars with slick tires in real life. And for the guy in the prelude... that would be a "power slide"... ask any real drifter.
 
First of all, if you guys are going to argue about what drifting is then first you have to define it. I posted this in a previous thread about 4 wheel drifting; maybe it can shed some light on the situation.

“Drifting is that fine line of control just before an uncontrolled skid. In racing, a car is usually considered to be drifting when all of its wheels are slipping, but the front wheels are still more-or-less pointed in the direction of the corner, or at least straight. Beyond that, when the car gets more sideways and even harder to control, it’s sliding. Drifting is the fastest way through a corner, and makes full use of the tire’s capabilities. But sliding is not the fastest way. Although sliding sideways, with the tail of the car hanging out and the steering in full opposite lock, looks spectacular, it’s slow. And it causes excessive tire wear.” (Taken from the GT2 manual and can be found here http://www.geocities.com/go2initiald/main.html )

This is real race drifting. The stuff that we do here, where there is a very large drift angle is just sliding, but I still refer to it is as “drifting”.

i know how to drift thank you very much. I know that only idiots drift cars with slick tires in real life. And for the guy in the prelude... that would be a "power slide"... ask any real drifter.

No, that is not a power slide. A power slide is when you use the power of the engine to cause a loss of traction at the rear wheels, hence the "power". In an FF car you cannot do a power slide unless you want to understeer into a wall or curb. Pulling the E-brake has a very similar effect as a power slide but it is not the same thing. Drifting with an FF car is possible. At race speed it is possible to cause oversteer by lifting off the throttle. This will lift weight off the rear wheels and cause them to lose traction slightly; the drift or slip angle can then be adjusted by adding gas or not. Left foot braking can also be used to cause oversteer and control understeer like LanEvo mentioned. Hitting the E-brake and counter steering, or just flooring it, will put you into a slide or an exhibition drift, that’s the stuff we talk about here; most of the time.

As for idiots with slick tires, well did it ever occur to you that maybe they don't want to change their tires every day? A harder tire will provide less traction but it will last a lot longer than a soft sticky one, not to mention that each tire will be significantly less expensive. The only difference in the drift will be that the car with harder tires will be moving slower, thus making it safer and maybe a little easier to control. Also it will be much easier to drift a lower powered car with lower grip tires.

Now that we are getting back on the subject of tires, I myself prefer sim tires since they simulate real life tires best. In fact they probably simulate high grip tires in real life not low grip one like you are thinking superb doriftoo. The sticky tiers in the game have much more traction than in real life, more than is physically possible, making that type of drifting unrealistic, but fun since it’s a lot faster. I often like to drive a 700 hp Rx-7 with medium tires; actually I drift so much I can’t really grip drive anymore, so in races I often end up drifting many of the corners, which usually slows me down but it’s still faster than the AI.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19103&highlight=wheel+drift

Here is the thread about 4 wheel drifting and drifting in general there is some more good info in there.
 
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