Toyota Sprinter SS version Setup Please!

[smltwnzer0]

I can't seem to get the settings right for the 86 SS version. The thing doesn't have a very good turn in... it understeers like no other. The only way i can get it to turn is to slide the tail, but i'd rather not resort to that, in fact, i feel that i shouldn't have to. It wasn't so dang hard to tune in GT3, but eh... oh well.

i switch my spring rates from (F/R) 7/6 and 10/8.5
dampener rates are (F/R) [Bound] 4/6 and [rebound] 6/8
camber at 2.2/1.3
stabilizers at something like 3/6


I'm open to almost anything, only I dont like TCS or ASM and I'd rather not resort to changing the toe from 0... I've been thinking that it's my LSD and my dampener rates that have been causing problems, but eh.. i'd help me a lot if i could see how you all set your SS 86's.

thanks!

 

[jtc+racer]

wich of kind of tyres do you use?

 

[smltwnzer0]

sport soft. both Front and Rear.

 

[GTer]

When I tuned mine up in GT3, I found it likes more camber in the rear than the front. Also, your stabilizers are set up for having a loose car, and your shock settings indicate a push condition, which isn't helped by the stabilizers.

I'd run the springs at the middle settings for both (I don't have my PS2 with me right now, so I don't know the numbers), then put the ride height at least 10mm over minimum on the front, the rear about 2 mm higher than the front. Run a 5/6 for front/rear bound, and 3/3 for front/rear rebound. Try running your camber at 2.0 front, 2.2 rear. Put the stabs. at 5/5, or 5/4 if the rear is still loose.

When I get home later, I'll try getting you some specific settings.

 

[canieaturchikn]

My settings are: springs F:10.5 R:7.5, height F: lowest R: 4mm higher than front, bound F: 6 R: 5, rebound F:8 R:7, camber F:2.0 R:2.5, toe F:-4 R:0, stabilizers F:6 R:5, driving aids all at zero, 2-way lsd. these settings work for me and everyone who drives it maybe they'll work for you

 

[smltwnzer0]

Ah... your settings seem to help a litle bit GTer, but i want it to turn in the way, say, an M3 does. Why doesn't this damn thing turn the way the normal '83 AE86 does??? I mean stability is great, and I'm still clocking good times, but i'd like it to be a little more fun to drive.

 

[white_rice]

i suggest a little bit of negative toe in the back
just like negitive one

either that or mess around with your damper

 

[smltwnzer0]

i suggest a little bit of negative toe in the back
just like negitive one

either that or mess around with your damper

hmm, yea, i know toe in the rear helps the rear kick out, but i dont want to have to rely on that to make my car turn in.

... sigh... is anyone else having my problem?

 

[GenkiSpeed]

The only way i can get it to turn is to slide the tail, but i'd rather not resort to that, in fact, i feel that i shouldn't have to.

I'm speechless... that was the most amazing thing I've ever heard... Someone driving the very embodiment of the entire retarded drifting craze, and DOESN'T FEEL THEY SHOULD HAVE TO SLIDE OUT THE TAIL...



I'm sorry, I'm just so used to senseless idiots who play too much Initial D and then try to drift their civics that to hear someone being sensible for once absolutely blows my mind.

Anyway, on to the Fujiwara-mobile... my thoughts......
1) more camber on the rear will cause more rear grip in turns, so I would leave the default settings on... a wee bit of rear camber, but a bit more front camber to help the front tires grip through the turn as the weight shifts to the side.

2) brake more, and earlier... often the biggest thing overlooked in racing isn't the tuning, but how you drive it... if you enter the turns too fast, your front tires will lose grip and you'll understeer. If you brake in a straight line approaching the turn but finish before approaching the turn, you won't be able to take advantage of the forward weight transfer from braking.

ionno... try a little more front camber, brake before entering the turn, downshift to keep your revs high and to use the gearing to decel, and use your braking's forward weight transfer to put added pressure on your front tires as you enter the turn.

 

[Project_D_AE86]

I am just wondering did you guys keep this car N/a or turbo it?

Laterz

 

[GenkiSpeed]

I am just wondering did you guys keep this car N/a or turbo it?

Boost is for sissies who can't take proper racing lines. ^_^

 

[194GVan]

try switching your front and rear stabilizer settings. if you want better turn in with less understeer harder in the front is the way to go. if you are still having trouble try increasing the front camber a little bit. this may or may not work, it depends on the car but since its a trueno I imagine it would help.

 

[Project_D_AE86]

N/a is better anyway. Too bad it isn't like it in the show, that you can shift at 11 thousands. but 10k is close enough.

 

[smltwnzer0]

try switching your front and rear stabilizer settings. if you want better turn in with less understeer harder in the front is the way to go. if you are still having trouble try increasing the front camber a little bit. this may or may not work, it depends on the car but since its a trueno I imagine it would help.

im so confused... i thought stiffer shocks in the rear/softer in the front promote better turn in... :-| I've pretty much found my almost ideal settings, but keep these tips coming, i like to see how other people tune their truenos.

 

[D1 STAR]

just a little tip 4 good turn in.
front stabs all ways a bit higher than the rear.
toe +1 on the rear.
like someone else said its how u drive ur car into the corner.if u know how to break properly, your turn in will be good.once you can break good then play wif ur settings.remember with turn in tunning, you should only touch your STABS,TOE AND CAMBER.the reason i say camber is because once you master good turn in you would naturally want your car to stay on a good line.
hopfully that helps you in some way.This always help me but just try and find somthing that feels good for you.you will always find that your car isnt tuned good enough,so just keep practicing.(spelling on some words?)