Trail braking on pedals v controller

[flying-chick]

Good day racers.

I would like to hear your views on whether you find trail braking easier with pedals than a controler, and the reasons why 🙂.

I have a PS5 controler that just says dual sense wireless controller on the back ? but is there a difference between this controller and a dual sense (edge) wireless controller is my first question.

As in the accessories controller settings on the ps5 there is not and option for me to set dead zones on the wireless controller brake trigger, or am I missing something ?.

Is this option only available on the the dual sense edge wireless controller,

I'm sure a lot of you will be aware that the best lap times.come from being able to do a slower release of the brake when exiting a corner, and as must as two seconds sometimes with that release , and regardless of how good of a driver you are it does not matter how well you can do a track, your times will never get as fast as they could do unless your trail braking is being nailed on every corner

For me having a controler where I can adjust the dead zones works best for me, but with this controller I have at present, it's something I'm not fully use to but on average my slow release are too quick at the first stage of release of the brake trigger, but normally ok at the end of the release.

This is why I need to set dead zones.

I'm interested to know if anyone is finding trail braking better when adjusting dead zones ? On a Ps5 dual edge controller

I'll use grand valley highway 1 as an example, gold experience sector 1

World records are set at 33.5 seconds. I'm only getting 34 secs flat at present on my controller,

On my wheel and pedals I haven't had time to test it yet, as there still in the process of beeng set up and I'm away from home untill next week.

Thanks for reading and any advice given.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

Edge user here!

I don't recommend adjusting the deadzone on the triggers unless;

1 - You have a tense grip naturally and may be applying pressure to the triggers unconsciously.

2 - The triggers are faulty and registering input when there is no pressure physically applied to the trigger.

The trigger has a range of motion, with the trigger registering 0% input when resting and 100% when fully depressed. If you adjust the deadzone, you're effectively reducing the range of motion by moving 0% input further up, meaning there is less distance between 0% input registered and 100%, and that reduction in distance results in less finesse/accuracy (as you have less travel to play with). This is also why pedals, which have substantially more play/travel distance, are seen as the superior option.

With regards to trail braking, it really is a game of practice, practice, practice. And remember that it's different between cars.

 

[flying-chick]

Edge user here!

I don't recommend adjusting the deadzone on the triggers unless;

1 - You have a tense grip naturally and may be applying pressure to the triggers unconsciously.

2 - The triggers are faulty and registering input when there is no pressure physically applied to the trigger.

The trigger has a range of motion, with the trigger registering 0% input when resting and 100% when fully depressed. If you adjust the deadzone, you're effectively reducing the range of motion by moving 0% input further up, meaning there is less distance between 0% input registered and 100%, and that reduction in distance results in less finesse/accuracy (as you have less travel to play with). This is also why pedals, which have substantially more play/travel distance, are seen as the superior option.

With regards to trail braking, it really is a game of practice, practice, practice. And remember that it's different between cars.

You have the edge controller, so is there an option for you under accessories to set dead zones ?


I know you don't recommend it which is fine, but I'm needing to buy a new controller anyhow.

Trust me I've done all the practicing in the world with racing. Maybe not so much on Gt7, I prefer to use fr cars and set less brake pressure on the front tyres,

But I'm unsure which brake pressure balance works better for trail braking in other cars such as Mr cars or 4wd cars or the other type, as I'm new to ps5 and I haven't played about with it much yet, but i would like to hear what brake pressure balance works best for others cars from members here 🙂.

I know with the pedals it can be down to preference for setting dead zones, but I would also like to hear from members there preference technique and why it works best for them with pedals for trail braking.

 

[Zero2Oblivion]

You have the edge controller, so is there an option for you under accessories to set dead zones ?


I know you don't recommend it which is fine, but I'm needing to buy a new controller anyhow.

Trust me I've done all the practicing in the world with racing. Maybe not so much on Gt7, I prefer to use fr cars and set less brake pressure on the front tyres,

But I'm unsure which brake pressure balance works better for trail braking in other cars such as Mr cars or 4wd cars or the other type, as I'm new to ps5 and I haven't played about with it much yet, but i would like to hear what brake pressure balance works best for others cars from members here 🙂.

I know with the pedals it can be down to preference for setting dead zones, but I would also like to hear from members there preference technique and why it works best for them with pedals for trail braking.

Yes, the deadzone on the triggers is adjustable. See Sony's guide for the Edge controller for details.

 

[Abarth_71]

I know with the pedals it can be down to preference for setting dead zones, but I would also like to hear from members there preference technique and why it works best for them with pedals for trail braking.

TBH I only set a deadzone on my brake pedal so I can rest my foot on it without it registering any input. I still use the rest of the full range, such as it is on a loadcell, as it's easier to modulate and trail brake with a bit more travel.
As for the brake balance in game I tend to have it set on 1 to the rear, but it depends on the car. I find it helps me on turn in when trail braking.

 

[flying-chick]

Yes, the deadzone on the triggers is adjustable. See Sony's guide for the Edge controller for details.

It's probably best if I show a clip and go into detail more, with the issue I've been having.

So this is an attempt of daily races grand valley highway 1.

I've just uploaded sector 1 only, as you can see its 7 tenths of world record pace, but I have been only 2 tenths off, but I don't have time to practice much at present, this is on a friends ps5 with trigger stiffness turned off and the same type of controller as mine ( not an edge) If you notice sometimes im either not hitting full brake or letting go to quickly,.

I'm still trail braking but it's up and down on different corners.



May I ask do you or anyone here find trail braking best with the stiffness of or on the adapter triggers or week or strong ?.