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- Rallywgn81
Hello everyone. I'm Rallywagon, and this is my first shot at a little informative thread. A little background. I've been racing the GT series since the beginning. I started drifting in game about 3 months after the release of the game, a little while after that I found the GTP community. I've since become a member and now race steward in the GTP S.N.A.I.L. series. I have raced , rallyed and drifted with the ds3, then a 270* Logitech Momo wheel, and have recently started using a Logitech G27. I struggled with the transition between the wheels, and I though I would put some tips out there that I found while making my transition. I still have further to improve, and will update this as I do so with more tips.
Im going to go about this post as if you already know how to drift. I'm going to assume you know about inertia drifting, flicks, all of that. The point of this post is to help people transition from a controller or 270* wheel to a 900* wheel. So lets begin.
Wheel Control:
Set up you wheel to your liking. get on a track you love and a car your familiar drifting with and go do a couple of laps. If your like me, your first corner, your going to dive bomb into the inside wall/ off the track. then the next time your going to snap back and fling yourself to the outside wall/off the track. Then the rest of the time you will be doing any number of random things like the above but not actually getting a good drift. Don't lose heart. Here is what I've worked on during my transition (Im not as good yet as I was, but I am getting back up there);
First, wheel work: it was hard for me to let the force feedback spin the wheel. with a 270* you can turn from lock to lock without walking the wheel. I think this has been the biggest hurdle for me. practice first letting the wheel spin to counter steer as you start your drift, learn where to stop it at what angle you want. once you get used to that you will notice you can finally hold a drift and not dive bomb into the inside of the track. try "bouncing" the wheel left and right about 40-50* to keep the car sideways, until you start to get everything working smoothly.
Now your going to find as you exit the corner, if you try and let the wheel spin itself back to center, or if going to link into the next corner, spin to counter steer, you will either spin into a 180, or keep snapping back and forth, either is bad. I have found that its better for you to walk the wheel to center, rather then wait for the force feedback. Timing is critical on this front. To soon and you will exit the drift to soon, to late, and its snap city.
As you practice, this will start to get easier. Also, little changes to wheel input is better than large ones. I try to keep my wheel as straight as possible when I drift and race if that makes sense. When I race I never walk my wheel and usually am able to keep a 200* wheel angle. While drifting you will use more, but try to keep it to a minimum.
Throttle control:
This is the Second key aspect. This is only slightly less important then steering. In my old wheel and with a ds3, going full throttle wasn't an issue. Counter steering didn't require so much turning and was super quick. With my g27, throttle control has taken on a new meaning. To maintain a drift, doesn't take much gas. you will want to work on staying between 20, and 70% throttle. Work on moving smoothly with your foot. See how your input effects the cars attitude. outside of this, there's not much to say that you shouldn't already know on this subject.
Brake control:
Ahhh, the brakes, so often over looked. To me, even these now work different. To me, they feel like they work better. Before I would set the bias up on cars. 6 or 7 front, 6 or 7 rear. Now I'm finding that turning the bias down is more beneficial. this is true not only in drift but in racing since the transition. Before I could trail brake into a corner fairly hard and be able maintain control. Now everything locks up with comfort tires, even with the abs set to 1. again, like the throttle, when applying the brakes its best to be smooth about it, and not just stab at them. and gradually work your way up to pressing them faster and faster.
General thoughts:
To often (and in this case, myself too) I see people trying to go to fast. This more than anything else I feel is the reason people have a hard time drifting (and racing). Remember, slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Slow down your speed some. Drifting isn't racing. Drifting is style and poise, flow and balance, sometimes mixed with competition. Be smooth my friends.
Disclaimers:
I am not an English major, and I'm a touch lazy. If you find some bad grammar, good for you.
I am in no way a pro, I drift in a video game. Please remember this when reading. What I have transcribed is what I have found has helped me. Over time I will try and edit and add as I learn, and may take this little guide a little further.
Im going to go about this post as if you already know how to drift. I'm going to assume you know about inertia drifting, flicks, all of that. The point of this post is to help people transition from a controller or 270* wheel to a 900* wheel. So lets begin.
Wheel Control:
Set up you wheel to your liking. get on a track you love and a car your familiar drifting with and go do a couple of laps. If your like me, your first corner, your going to dive bomb into the inside wall/ off the track. then the next time your going to snap back and fling yourself to the outside wall/off the track. Then the rest of the time you will be doing any number of random things like the above but not actually getting a good drift. Don't lose heart. Here is what I've worked on during my transition (Im not as good yet as I was, but I am getting back up there);
First, wheel work: it was hard for me to let the force feedback spin the wheel. with a 270* you can turn from lock to lock without walking the wheel. I think this has been the biggest hurdle for me. practice first letting the wheel spin to counter steer as you start your drift, learn where to stop it at what angle you want. once you get used to that you will notice you can finally hold a drift and not dive bomb into the inside of the track. try "bouncing" the wheel left and right about 40-50* to keep the car sideways, until you start to get everything working smoothly.
Now your going to find as you exit the corner, if you try and let the wheel spin itself back to center, or if going to link into the next corner, spin to counter steer, you will either spin into a 180, or keep snapping back and forth, either is bad. I have found that its better for you to walk the wheel to center, rather then wait for the force feedback. Timing is critical on this front. To soon and you will exit the drift to soon, to late, and its snap city.
As you practice, this will start to get easier. Also, little changes to wheel input is better than large ones. I try to keep my wheel as straight as possible when I drift and race if that makes sense. When I race I never walk my wheel and usually am able to keep a 200* wheel angle. While drifting you will use more, but try to keep it to a minimum.
Throttle control:
This is the Second key aspect. This is only slightly less important then steering. In my old wheel and with a ds3, going full throttle wasn't an issue. Counter steering didn't require so much turning and was super quick. With my g27, throttle control has taken on a new meaning. To maintain a drift, doesn't take much gas. you will want to work on staying between 20, and 70% throttle. Work on moving smoothly with your foot. See how your input effects the cars attitude. outside of this, there's not much to say that you shouldn't already know on this subject.
Brake control:
Ahhh, the brakes, so often over looked. To me, even these now work different. To me, they feel like they work better. Before I would set the bias up on cars. 6 or 7 front, 6 or 7 rear. Now I'm finding that turning the bias down is more beneficial. this is true not only in drift but in racing since the transition. Before I could trail brake into a corner fairly hard and be able maintain control. Now everything locks up with comfort tires, even with the abs set to 1. again, like the throttle, when applying the brakes its best to be smooth about it, and not just stab at them. and gradually work your way up to pressing them faster and faster.
General thoughts:
To often (and in this case, myself too) I see people trying to go to fast. This more than anything else I feel is the reason people have a hard time drifting (and racing). Remember, slow is smooth and smooth is fast. Slow down your speed some. Drifting isn't racing. Drifting is style and poise, flow and balance, sometimes mixed with competition. Be smooth my friends.
Disclaimers:
I am not an English major, and I'm a touch lazy. If you find some bad grammar, good for you.
I am in no way a pro, I drift in a video game. Please remember this when reading. What I have transcribed is what I have found has helped me. Over time I will try and edit and add as I learn, and may take this little guide a little further.
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