TT 37: 450pp @ Madrid City/ 550pp @ Toscana Reverse! Tunes In Post 1.

[GTP_CargoRatt]

If it makes any sense i cant find the grip in the 205 i tried that tune that borowillow posted and sruggled with understeer. i only bested a 1:41,xxx with it which was nearly a full .900 off my 03 Lutecia's 1:40.2 and i feel that still has close to a .300 to find yet.

I'm in the same boat as you. Struggleing to find any grip with this car. It either wants to plow straight ahead or it gets tail happy. Can't find a happy medium.

 

[Gendou]

I've done the Madrid TT with an Alpine A110S it was too fun

 

[vivalafeng]

not the ideal car, butive been running the 03 wrx wrc car basic suspension, apart from ride height set to +20/+20
transmission set to lowest possible default setting.
40/60 torque
lsd front 5/5/5
lsd rear default
good for 82nd at mo, with plenty of driver improvement.
hopefully this may help someone

 

[Lou8ball]

Hey, I had a question about tuning for the Madrid tt. Im using the 205 turbo with borrowwillow's tune, but was wandering if it is better to add some ballast to get the weight balance at 50/50 over front and rear wheels and then raise the power to reach 450pp.

Or is 0 ballast better so that the car is lighter when its at 450pp? I've tried a few different ballast amounts but cannot really adapt or make the most of it - is it likely to need changes in the suspension as well when ballast is used?

Im currently 25th and struggling to find anymore pace. Hopefully a few more runs over the next couple of days might help me shave off a few tenths.

 

[Peasantslayer]

Hey, I had a question about tuning for the Madrid tt. Im using the 205 turbo with borrowwillow's tune, but was wandering if it is better to add some ballast to get the weight balance at 50/50 over front and rear wheels and then raise the power to reach 450pp.

Or is 0 ballast better so that the car is lighter when its at 450pp? I've tried a few different ballast amounts but cannot really adapt or make the most of it - is it likely to need changes in the suspension as well when ballast is used?

Im currently 25th and struggling to find anymore pace. Hopefully a few more runs over the next couple of days might help me shave off a few tenths.

If you need more straight line speed then add ballast but try and maintain a similar weight distribution and with the free PP increase the power. I personally like to have more weight over the back of the car unless it's an FF.

 

[Lou8ball]

If you need more straight line speed then add ballast but try and maintain a similar weight distribution and with the free PP increase the power. I personally like to have more weight over the back of the car unless it's an FF.

Thanks, I'll give it a try, Cheers. I might play around with increasing the front ride height as well.

Also I noticed that with the exhaust and racing filter mods, you can run higher torque, but you end up with a few bhp's less. I might see if this makes any difference to the lap time. Im guessing more torque will help through sector 2, but will compromise straight line speed on the start/finish and other straights.

Not sure though, I've never been that good at understanding how to tune on gt - will use some trial and error. I'll post if I find anything that works.
Cheers

 

[Peasantslayer]

Thanks, I'll give it a try, Cheers. I might play around with increasing the front ride height as well.

Also I noticed that with the exhaust and racing filter mods, you can run higher torque, but you end up with a few bhp's less. I might see if this makes any difference to the lap time. Im guessing more torque will help through sector 2, but will compromise straight line speed on the start/finish and other straights.

Not sure though, I've never been that good at understanding how to tune on gt - will use some trial and error. I'll post if I find anything that works.
Cheers

No problem, I don't understand a lot about tuning either but perhaps you could also install a high rpm turbo because you spend a lot of time flat out on madrid. If you keep checking the thread you may find yinato has posted his setup because when he does a TT he usually shares his setup with us.

 

[Tyger]

I've done the Madrid TT with an Alpine A110S it was too fun

Was it stock or tuned? I could only get silver untuned. I like the Alpines though, I remembered them as being a real handful but they aren't really, they also feel super light.

 

[phil_75]

Why does the time go red when i take the jump on the Rally stage? 45th on 450pp.

 

[USARMYCOMBATVET]

Why does the time go red when i take the jump on the Rally stage? 45th on 450pp.

Car bottoms out?

 

[numbnuts70]

Yeah,I had trouble with 2nd, bigger, jump.
I changed the ballast so it was more of a 50/50 distribution and started having trouble with 1st jump

Its just about finding the right line,speed,weight distribution and take off attitude of the car.
I found that brushing the brakes slightly before take-off gave a better percentage of good landings but its still a bit hit and miss

 

[Johnnypenso]

Thanks, I'll give it a try, Cheers. I might play around with increasing the front ride height as well.

Also I noticed that with the exhaust and racing filter mods, you can run higher torque, but you end up with a few bhp's less. I might see if this makes any difference to the lap time. Im guessing more torque will help through sector 2, but will compromise straight line speed on the start/finish and other straights.

Not sure though, I've never been that good at understanding how to tune on gt - will use some trial and error. I'll post if I find anything that works.
Cheers

Go with the HP.

Why does the time go red when i take the jump on the Rally stage? 45th on 450pp.

Same here. Ruined a few good laps because of that. I never noticed if the red comes on as you hit the ground or not, have to keep an eye on it next time. Regardless, it's a glitch of some kind. Wouldn't it be great if PD had some interns, who normally work for free, you know, college or even high school kids, and they said,

"Hey kids this is the next TT, go nuts for a few days and see if you can find some glitches, loopholes etc".

You know, run it like a normal business that actually tests it's product before it goes public, not one that operates as if it has a captive audience, aka a monopoly, and can do whatever the heck it wants and get away with it.

 

[themartlab]

Second that. The rally cars don't seem to have a good feel, they slide around and the engine bogs. Spinning wheels and gravel aren't modelled well at all. This one at least seems to allow more offroad stuff without the red DQ times.

Exactly! The feeling of the car is horrendous.

 

[Borowillow]

Thanks for posting the set-up--got into the 37.4s in about 5 laps.

Still feels a bit too neutral for me so I'll give it another go with the front ride height up a bit and change the rear diff settings to give a bit more 'steer with the rear'

I didnt lighten the car (for more power) but might tweak with that as well.

No probs glad it helps only had one session on it so i will tweak it a bit myself.Im quite new at tuning myself ive learnt a lot off you guys on here so its good to hear that it works for others.

 

[Borowillow]

Hey, I had a question about tuning for the Madrid tt. Im using the 205 turbo with borrowwillow's tune, but was wandering if it is better to add some ballast to get the weight balance at 50/50 over front and rear wheels and then raise the power to reach 450pp.

Or is 0 ballast better so that the car is lighter when its at 450pp? I've tried a few different ballast amounts but cannot really adapt or make the most of it - is it likely to need changes in the suspension as well when ballast is used?

Im currently 25th and struggling to find anymore pace. Hopefully a few more runs over the next couple of days might help me shave off a few tenths.

Im gonna have a go at adding ballast later and upping the power with a few tweaks to the suspention will let you know if i can find any improvement.

 

[jamiebeech]

ok my 205 is fully tuned, pp lowered to 450, ballst plus 200, gear ratios final gear-4.395
and thats all ive done to it.. currently at 15th .... hope this helps

no aero either

 

[Transformers]

ok my 205 is fully tuned, pp lowered to 450, ballst plus 200, gear ratios final gear-4.395
and thats all ive done to it.. currently at 15th .... hope this helps

no aero either

What horse power are you getting dude?

 

[jamiebeech]

What horse power are you getting dude?

282 mate, not sure when the last oil change was for it.... changed 4wd differential to 60-40 and got up to 13th

 

[numbnuts70]

282 mate, not sure when the last oil change was for it.... changed 4wd differential to 60-40 and got up to 13th

Are you getting 282bhp at 450PP with the 200kg ballast?
My 205s done 50000miles,282bhp with no engine stage upgrade and no ballast-I didn't lighten it and no aero.
Might give that 60/40 diff split a try

 

[jamiebeech]

Are you getting 282bhp at 450PP with the 200kg ballast?
My 205s done 50000miles,282bhp with no engine stage upgrade and no ballast-I didn't lighten it and no aero.
Might give that 60/40 diff split a try

yes numbnuts my 205's fully done up though! not sure how many miles ive done in it to be honest? still on the tt

 

[randoloid]

I played around with the 205 last night and found that (for me anyway) that the suspension rigidity helped immensely. I immediately shaved almost a second. Most notable was on entry it wasn't so squirrelly. Your results may vary, but thought I'd share my experience.

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

I give up for now, Cant find a setup that will match Yinato's for top speed,
Its just frustrating to lose time on straights in a Time trial

 

[roncthegreat]

i tweaked the suspension, lsd, and torque sensing center diff on my land rover range stormer concept to get the gold on the toscana tt with a time of 1:55.323. i know it's not a top time, but it was kind of satisfying to place with a 2090 kg suv as opposed to a 1200 kg rally car.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I give up for now, Cant find a setup that will match Yinato's for top speed,
Its just frustrating to lose time on straights in a Time trial

I'm gonna sit down tonight and give it a serious go and see what I can come up with. Gonna use what you gave me and go from there. I have a feeling I know what his "secret" is, just gotta test it out first. Gonna get some "medicated" brownies, lol, and get down to buissiness, lol. I'll let ya know any findings. Peace.

 

[Borowillow]

I give up for now, Cant find a setup that will match Yinato's for top speed,
Its just frustrating to lose time on straights in a Time trial

i can keep up with him on the first straight he takes the corner better if you want to send me a friend request you can borrow my car i dont fall behind in a straight line

 

[PR1VATEJ0KER]

I'm gonna sit down tonight and give it a serious go and see what I can come up with. Gonna use what you gave me and go from there. I have a feeling I know what his "secret" is, just gotta test it out first. Gonna get some "medicated" brownies, lol, and get down to buissiness, lol. I'll let ya know any findings. Peace.

lol, good luck KB 👍

i can keep up with him on the first straight he takes the corner better if you want to send me a friend request you can borrow my car i dont fall behind in a straight line

Can you really keep with him until the first corner?


Even when I get a near perfect exit from the chicane before the Start/Finish Im about 2-3 car lengths behind coming into T1, which must be nearly 2 tenths.

 

[numbnuts70]

I give up for now, Cant find a setup that will match Yinato's for top speed,
Its just frustrating to lose time on straights in a Time trial

I find if I can cross the line at 97mph I only lose a half a cars length by the first hairpin.
He must use the handbrake in turn 1 and thats where I drop 3/10s to him,then 7 tenths by the 2nd split.
Im losing all my time(probably 0.5secs)in the 360 hairpin before the final chicane.
I think his extra pace is on his diff settings(and his skill of course )
Ive got into the 36s so I'll probably leave it at that.

 

[Borowillow]

lol, good luck KB 👍


Can you really keep with him until the first corner?


Even when I get a near perfect exit from the chicane before the Start/Finish Im about 2-3 car lengths behind coming into T1, which must be nearly 2 tenths.

yes the closest ive been at first checkpoint is .365 at first checkpoint but that is because he takes the corner better than me im not using any ballast you can borrow my car if you want

 

[Borowillow]

ive tweaked the toe and camber slightly from the tune i posted and raised the front end slightly and beat my time a little but my car will be better in the hands of better drivers

 

[Peasantslayer]

I find if I can cross the line at 97mph I only lose a half a cars length by the first hairpin.
He must use the handbrake in turn 1 and thats where I drop 3/10s to him,then 7 tenths by the 2nd split.
Im losing all my time(probably 0.5secs)in the 360 hairpin before the final chicane.
I think his extra pace is on his diff settings(and his skill of course )
Ive got into the 36s so I'll probably leave it at that.

Keep going, it took me about 3 or 4 days of grinding just to temporarily get into the top 20 on the last TT, I ended up 4th in the end. If you spend an hour a day until the TT ends you will look back and think how was I that slow? You'll find little techinques which make you faster and you'll develop your setup. Just remember your 100th attempt will be better than your first.