tuning noob needs advice

[summerson1]

Hello all and this is my first post on my first day as a member. I am looking for a good starter car and base tune to get into tuning. i am a bit brash with my driving style and dont have a wheel if that matters. my prefered cars to drive are my 09 gtr specV my toyota minolta (birthday present WAY before i got to like the wind) and my lamborghini murcielago lp670-4 SV.

 

[VTiRoj]

Start off with something slow but great to drive. The Mazda MX-5 is a good choice. Don't add power upgrades or racing tyres on it. Just buy the adjustable parts (LSD, suspension, transmission) and experiment with it. Learn what does what and once you've got a good idea and you've made a good improvement to the stock car, then you can start adding power, using better tyres, etc.

Once you've got that down, you can move into Skyline's, Impreza's, etc. Then up to supercars, race cars, etc. etc.

Also check this thread out: The Ultimate GT5 Link Collection for Tuning

 

[bigberry]

Above are some good suggestions also you could try the Toyota AE86 (SS or GT-Apex) , Mini's , Suzuki Swift, Lupo etc

Smaller FF cars , then 4WD etc Stick to lower PP at first 400-450pp and build up as you improve.

 

[sean10mm]

Also check this thread out: The Ultimate GT5 Link Collection for Tuning

I'd warn any new tuner that none of the tuning guides seem to be entirely correct. Neither are the in-game descriptions. The one they all screw up is ride height, which works exactly the opposite of most of the guides when it comes to tuning out understeer. Nobody really seems to know how the LSD works in the game either.

 

[Dragonthing]

I'd definitely stay away from the 4WD cars...the extra effects of having two LSDs and a center diff will make things far too complicated. Hell, I certainly don't completely understand!

 

[savage388]

I'd warn any new tuner that none of the tuning guides seem to be entirely correct. Neither are the in-game descriptions. The one they all screw up is ride height, which works exactly the opposite of most of the guides when it comes to tuning out understeer. Nobody really seems to know how the LSD works in the game either.

The spring rates also work completely opposite of what the in game description gives. Your best bet is to read the tuning guide and just try stuff out.
As for LSD most people tend to be very aggressive with initial torque and the acceleration, while others seem to open the diff by going 5/5/5. Your best bet is to keep initial torque close to 10, set acceleration so both wheels break traction at almost the same time on corner exit(usually around 20). Deceleration has the most freedom because it works as the description states: the higher decel the less the car will turn/slide off the throttle.
Dragonthing: Awd is easy, set center diff to preferred torque distribution, set rear up like regular rwd car, then keep the front as open as possible for best turning characteristics( less entry understeer and exit understeer). It just takes a bit longer to tune the LSD at both ends of the car and dial then in.

 

[Motor City Hami]

The spring rates also work completely opposite of what the in game description gives.

Please add "in your opinion" when making statements like this. Thanks.

 

[savage388]

Please add "in your opinion" when making statements like this. Thanks.

I meant stiffening the front produces oversteer and stiffening the rear produces understeer. It's not just my opinion it has been discussed in other threads.

 

[esoxhntr]

I meant stiffening the front produces oversteer and stiffening the rear produces understeer. It's not just my opinion it has been discussed in other threads.

..and it's wrong.

 

[Motor City Hami]

I meant stiffening the front produces oversteer and stiffening the rear produces understeer. It's not just my opinion it has been discussed in other threads.

Discussed, but not proven and definately not adopted by everyone in the tuning community. By my count it seems about half and half, which means, "in your opinion."

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I meant stiffening the front produces oversteer and stiffening the rear produces understeer. It's not just my opinion it has been discussed in other threads.

Not always.

Depends on a ton of factors but it does work right at times and seems wrong at others.

 

[savage388]

Not always.

Depends on a ton of factors but it does work right at times and seems wrong at others.

IMO(that better?)It does depend on quite a few things. Have done a great deal of testing on mostly FR street cars and it doesnt make the car super free but it does work.also a difference of more than 4kg in the springs front to rear tends to upset most cars, and doesn't loosen the car any more. Also the the anti roll bars really influence this effect, and I tune excessive understeer/oversteer mostly with them because there effects are much greater than changing the spring rate and when set to extreme values they usually don't upset a cars balance as much, but there are always special cases that throw this logic out the window.

 

[summerson1]

Now now set your arguments aside. I'm getting the hang of tuning using my '69 vette. I've been getting into using the Nurburgring 24h track for tuning because it has almost every kind of turn and its such a challenge to drive.