Turkey returns fire after Syria shelling (Friday Shelling)

[terminator363]

BBC Report: BBC Link

I'm really curious as to what these engagements will bring to the existing conflicts in Syria. What do you guys think?

 

[nk4e]

I wonder in the mist of the November election. How is this going to play out, are we(USA) going to intervene or are we going to sit this one out.

 

[Public'sTwin]

A report I'd read earlier strongly insinuated that Assad, who issued both a formal apology and vow to Turkey that it would never happen again, is waging a very fragile war on his own turf. As I recall, he's treading such thin international ice that he is, at this point, basically ready to concede anything to other countries so long as they don't oust him or dispose of his régime.

 

[Sphinx]

Why would they want to deliberately shell Turkey?

Why would they want to deliberately target and slaughter children and cause worldwide outrage?

There's only one side that would benefit from all this, and it's not Assad.

 

[Dennisch]

Could have been the rebels trying to force a foreign army into the fight. If it indeed was Assads army, it would be a very dumb move. Turkey could easily invade Syria and kick Assad out of power.

But I don't see the US or UN getting into this, because unlike Libya, where the rebels took large parts of the country and turned it into "safe" zones, in Syria the rebels can't even keep a city under their command. There are still large groups supporting Assad.

 

[Skuh]

Nothing can be done with military assistance while China, Russia, and Iran are so against it. Not to mention we wouldn't know who we are helping. There are reports of up to 60 different factions that are reported as the resistance and we know that al qaeda, and probably hezbolla are amongst the rebels.

The only military action we may see from the un is a safe zone setup by Turkey inside the Syrian Border.

 

[Ardius]

Could have been the rebels trying to force a foreign army into the fight.

Or indeed the Turkish themselves.

 

[Skuh]

Or indeed the Turkish themselves.

No.

 

[DK]

It should also be noted that US/NATO intervention in Libya was relatively easy compared to whatever efforts would be needed in Syria. The vast majority of Libya's population is Sunni (probably >90%). As for Syria, although Sunnis also form a majority there, there's significant Alawite and Christian minorities. Assad can easily present himself as a barrier against Sunni tyranny to these aforementioned minorities.

 

[Slash]

I wonder in the mist of the November election. How is this going to play out, are we(USA) going to intervene or are we going to sit this one out.

We need to stay the hell out.

 

[sumbrownkid]

We need to stay the hell out.

This times 1 billion. Sure we helped out Libya, but the difference was that the animosity was mainly between Gaddhafi and the people.

Assad can easily present himself as a barrier against Sunni tyranny to these aforementioned minorities.

Unfortunately DK, he didn't get your memo 12 years ago. Everyone outside the Alawite community pretty much hates him, so I won't be surprised if Alawites leave the country in droves if the rebels succeeded. Too much bad blood between the groups. But sometimes, a dictator just has to get bounced.

In Syria you got the possibility of Assad vs Shias vs Sunnis vs Druze vs Alawites vs Christians vs mercenaries vs terrorist groups and ultimately vs proxy Israel, Iran, and the Saudis along with other gulf countries. And let's not forget NATO, since Turkey basically said "one more move and we'll lay you out.".

Syria is the spider web we may not be able to untangle ourselves from.

The only real way to depose of Assad is from internal means. Via it's own people. American boots in Syria will only flame the war further and encourage other extremists yahoos to justify any further actions against us. As of right now, Assad is clinging to the shred of power that he has, and he knows it. It's only a matter of time now until the dictator has "gon fishin'".

And don't forget about Russia getting ticked that if we bombed one of their most loyal customers.

 

[terminator363]

Why would they want to deliberately shell Turkey?

Why would they want to deliberately target and slaughter children and cause worldwide outrage?

There's only one side that would benefit from all this, and it's not Assad.

Could have been the rebels trying to force a foreign army into the fight. If it indeed was Assads army, it would be a very dumb move. Turkey could easily invade Syria and kick Assad out of power.

I have been thinking about this for a while. This could really be what's going on; again, no one else would benefit from targeting Turkey but the rebels.

 

[Quackjack]

We need to stay the hell out.

This. I hated the Iraq War and this would be the same thing. Let them sort themselves out.

 

[Dennisch]

Even if the US would get involved in this, it would be under the UN flag, but I don't see it happen anytime soon. This issue will need to fix itself, but it will be a tough nut to crack for the Syrians. Even if Assad goes away, will the Syrians accept democracy and all the parties on the ballot? I don't see it happen.

And again:

But I don't see the US or UN getting into this, because unlike Libya, where the rebels took large parts of the country and turned it into "safe" zones, in Syria the rebels can't even keep a city under their command. There are still large groups supporting Assad.

 

[Sam48]

Some news outlets are now reporting that Turkey may have purposely brought this upon themselves as an excuse to attack Syria.

Turkish False Flag on Syria

Did Turkey use a false flag to escalate war with Syria?

Syria denies "Apologizing to Turkey" over shelling akcakale

 

[terminator363]

^ I wouldn't count on that.